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Arsene Lupin story "813" at draftspace[]

Yo. I need a helping hand with the Maurice LeBlanc novel 813 that got sent to draft-space a while back (see Draft:813 (novel)). The tips suggested me to "asking for help on the talk page of a relevant WikiProject" and here I am. I have bit limited knowledge on Arsene Lupin, but I do know enough that 813 is brought up a lot in discussions by the series fans. It seems academic sources on this book are limited and/or escape my attention and I need somebody who knows something to drag this piece from Draftspace. Or have I misunderstood 813's relevance? -- TrickShotFinn (talk) 17:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello TrickShotFinn. The sourcing may be harder to find here because it is quite old and often in French. For wikipedia notability, a book being beloved of its fans is not very relevant to notability unless reliable sources have commented on the fact that people like it more than usual, or unless those fans have gone on to publish their own commentary in reliable sources. However, I suspect that this book did get enough RS reviews to pass WP:NBOOK. Citing a few reviews should get the article through AfC. The trouble may just be accessing those reviews and using them to write a high-quality article. I have found the following as starting places:
  • Cowper, Cecil, 1856. "813." The Academy, 1905-1910, 1910-10-01 (2004), p.326-326; London: Academy Publishing Co., etc Snippet: "...81S. By MAURICE LEBLANC. Translated by ALEXANDER. TEIXErRA DE MATTOS. (Mills and Boon. 6s.) IN his latest book, " 813," M. Maurice Leblanc has more than..." May be digitized here
  • This is actually a review of the film based on the book: "813." Kinematograph Weekly (Archive: 1919-1959), 1920-10-28, Vol.44 (705), p.66; London: Media Business Insight. Snippet: "... that does not defy dramatic values. Its conclusion is the only possible one, and emphasises the strength and vigour that are obvious throughout. Maurice Leblanc..." In ProQuest here.
  • This article talks about 813 for at least a page.
I would also suggest looking for sources like A Companion to Crime Fiction, ed. Rzepka, Charles J., and Lee Horsley, Wiley‐Blackwell, 2010, which name-drops 813 on page 297. (All it says is "In Arsene Lupin, Gentleman Thief (1908) he enjoys making fools of the police while having adventures, though in later novels like 813 (1910) and The Hollow Needle (1910) he chooses to work with the police instead.") That source isn't WP:SIGCOV but others might have more. Check Priestman, Martin, and Sita A. Schütt. “French Crime Fiction.” The Cambridge Companion to Crime Fiction, Cambridge University Press, 2003, pp. 59–76, https://doi.org/10.1017/CCOL0521803993.005.
You might also find retrospective pieces like this one for a SF series, which I believe met the bar of a reliable source because it was published by Tor rather than self-published.
Of these I don't think the film review contributes to notability, and I'm not sure about the article (would have to read it to see whether it's really "significant" coverage) but the review by Cowper gets you halfway to NBOOK. If you need help accessing these articles or others that you find, let me know and I can use my library subscription to get them. But right now I don't have time to do a lot of reading in French so I can't help with the writing. Good luck! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

RfC about rapid-onset gender dysphoria[]

Comments would be welcome at Talk:Irreversible Damage#RfC: Should rapid-onset gender dysphoria be described as "fringe"?. Crossroads -talk- 07:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

RFC that could affect this project[]

There is a titling RFC at Wikipedia talk:Article titles that will affect many articles at this project. There was discussion of making the RfC handled bit by bit before all projects understood the ramifications with entertainment being singled out next in a deleted draft, and other projects after that. Whether you agree or don't agree please join in the discussion for this massive Wikipedia change. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)