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Svante Pääbo in 2016
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  3. point out problematic areas in the nominated article and, if appropriate, suggest how to fix them. If you know exactly what to do, by all means, go ahead and fix it as you see fit.

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October 4[]

October 4, 2022 (2022-10-04) (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

  • North Korea restricts movement due to COVID-19. The announcement was made minutes after it launched a missile over Japan. (RFA)

Science and technology

RD: Loretta Lynn[]

Article: Loretta Lynn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Crs:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nobel Prize in Physics[]

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Articles: Alain Aspect (talk · history · tag) and John Clauser (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Nobel Prize in Physics is awarded to Alain Aspect (pictured), John Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger for their work in quantum mechanics. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Crs:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Aspect's article is ready to go. Clauser and Zeilinger are about 75% there in terms of sourcing. Masem (t) 12:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • This comment is totally fine, PrecariousWorlds, and I'm sure everyone here will be happy to have another voice in the discussions here. The three articles indeed look quite decent so this will probably be ready to get featured on ITN in the near future. I'm personally going to wait with my !vote until John Clauser's article is expanded a bit more tho. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you! I hope I can be of help to this project. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:18, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

October 3[]

October 3, 2022 (2022-10-03) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Science and technology

(Ready) RD: Ron Franz[]

Article: Ron Franz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Crs:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Eamonn McCabe[]

Article: Eamonn McCabe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Crs:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Notable sports photographer. Article a bit short but looks in good shape. yorkshiresky (talk) 18:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not just sports; he has several works in the Nattional Portrait Gallery and other collections, also. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's s 20:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jerzy Urban[]

Article: Jerzy Urban (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, EuroNews
Crs:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bruzaholm (talk) 14:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

probably not blurb-worthy on en-wiki, but a photo may be appropriate? Abcmaxx (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
IAR aside, I thought we had a policy that photos are for blurbs only. The most recent discussion I could find- [2] GreatCaesarsGhost 21:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2022 Bosnian general election[]

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Article: 2022 Bosnian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​SNSD win a plurality of votes in the Bosnian general election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In the Bosnian general election, Denis Bećirović, Željko Komšić and Željka Cvijanović (pictured) are elected to the Presidency.
Crs:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs a lot more prose. Very complicated electoral system with 3x president's elected too Abcmaxx (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Good point. Although the image can be rotated or someone can make a collage with three (which I don’t know how to do and I preferred to put the pic of the only woman). In any case, we are in days of Nobel prizes, so it would hardly stand out many days a photo of the new members of the presidency in the event that this nomination succeeds. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Agreed, as much as I love the idea of a rotating one, I think it's just easier not to include a picture. JackWilfred (talk) 09:56, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2022 Bulgarian snap parliamentary election[]

Proposed image
Article: 2022 Bulgarian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​GERB-SDS alliance (leader Boyko Borisov pictured) wins a plurality of votes in the snap Bulgarian parliamentary election. (Post)
News source(s): DW
Crs:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Yet another election in Bulgaria. Article needs a lot more prose. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose on quality For the usual reasons: there's no prose about the results, there's no section on reactions or aftermath and it would be nice if there was more prose in the other sections where there are only tables. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:28, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine[]

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Articles: 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (talk · history · tag) and Svante Pääbo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Svante Pääbo is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on extinct hominin genomes and human evolution. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Svante Pääbo is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on human evolutionary genetics.
News source(s): Reuters, CBS News, BBC
Crs:

Article needs updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Davey2116 (talk) 09:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) 2022 Brazilian general election[]

Consensus will not develop. MSN12102001 (talk) 23:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further s should be made to this discussion.

Article: 2022 Brazilian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Lula (PT) wins the 1st round of the general election but has to face Bolsonaro (PL) in a 2nd round run-off. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Lula da Silva of the Workers Party wins a plurality in the Brazilian general election, and will face a runoff with incumbent President Jair Bolsonaro of the the Liberal Party.
News source(s): The Guardian, Washington Post, AP, AlJazeera
Crs:
Nominator's comments: Heading to the 2nd round. Article in good shape. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:21, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Would it make more sense to just post the result of the run-off once it happens instead of double posting? Curbon7 (talk) 07:34, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Post the second round results. The first round results of the French presidential election wasnt posted. Only the Second round. Haris920 (talk) 07:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The results from the first round are not ITN/R when there is a run-off. We post when the winner is known, so wait until that happens.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Question Since this was a general election, covering also the totality of the Chamber of Deputies, parts of the Senate, the governors and state assemblies, shouldn't we at least post the results of the election to the Chamber of Deputies? The presidential election can then be posted on 30. October. Article wouldn't be ready yet - results of the legislative part of the elections hasn't been updated yet. Khuft (talk) 08:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Wait for the result of the run off. Then we can post the president and any legislative information relevant at that time.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Nominator comment the ongoing nomination was closed and opposed as it was said that first round should be posted as a blurb. Now this nomination is being opposed too which I find inconsistent; in that case surely the ongoing nomination should be re-considered. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Neither of those things is appropriate. It is not "ongoing" in the usual sense, where there are daily updates to post. This is just a two-part election, and we'll post the result once the second part is complete.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Usually I would agree, however: most elections do not have daily political violence in the lead up nor the real possibility of an armed coup. Furthermore most elections do not have 156 million eligible voters spanning a large percentage of a whole continent. If anything this result will increase the amount of incidents in between rounds. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's a valid point, but would those day-to-day events be significant enough to feature on the main page? Keep in mind we have ongoing wars with thousands of deaths that never make the main page. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If there is a coup then of course that it would be considered, regardless of everything else. So far, however, the only thing we got are leaked private conversations (which were about personal preferences and not actual plans), and excessive precautions. Lula asked the US to immediately recognize the winner (a part that the article did not mention), and the US accepted, for fear of an incident similar to that of Trump... and because it's the standard procedure, anyway. Cambalachero (talk) 12:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If violence is part of the significance of this item, then it should probably be included in the blurb. It would be nice if we could quantify the violence. This does warm me up for an ongoing spot. That being said, the violence should probably be quantified better in the lede of the article. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose: Do it when the second election is held and we have a definitive winner. Otherwise, we would have to post this twice this month. And that time, please use the full names, "Lula Da Silva" and "Jair Bolsonaro", not just "Lula" and "Bolsonaro". Cambalachero (talk) 12:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I definitely agree about using full names. Trillfendi (talk) 15:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment – From what I've seen, Lula's success has come as a surprise, possibly significant enough in itself for a blurb – especially since Brazil is far and away South America's most populous country. – Sca (talk) 13:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, it's the other way. Polls before the election announced that Lula would win by a landslide, way ahead of Bolsonaro, and even enough to win without a runoff election. Although he won, he did so by a lower margin than expected, as Bolsonaro got more votes than expected. He was even wining when the first partial results were announced! Cambalachero (talk) 13:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh.  ;-) ... But still seems significant. – Sca (talk) 13:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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October 2[]

October 2, 2022 (2022-10-02) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

  • Haitian authorities announce an unexpected resurgence of cholera in the country and report that at least seven people have died from the disease. (Reuters)

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

RD: Laurence Silberman[]

Article: Laurence Silberman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WSJ, WSJ again
Crs:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Sacheen Littlefeather[]

Article: Sacheen Littlefeather (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety; The Hollywood Reporter; Deadline Hollywood, BBC, DW
Crs:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 03:21, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Darshan Dharmaraj[]

Article: Darshan Dharmaraj (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Crs:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Titanciwiki (talk) 02:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) Ongoing: Mahsa Amini protests[]

Article: Mahsa Amini protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): JPost, ABC, Time, BBC, Reuters, VOA, Iran Intl, The Guardian
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Event continues to evolve and receive coverage since posting on September 22. - Indefensible (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2022 London Marathon[]

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Article: 2022 London Marathon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Yalemzerf Yehualaw of Ethiopia becomes the youngest woman to win the London Marathon whilst Amos Kipruto (pictured) of Kenya wins the men's race. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Crs:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I added this to current news portal. We posted the Berlin marathon not long ago, I believe this is just as notable. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
the race summary section hasn't been updated, though; in fact, that section is still using future tense. for comparison, this is how the summary for last year's race looked like when the associated blurb was posted to itn. dying (talk) 22:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've fixed the tense issues and updated who of the expected competitors actually ran but a prose summary is still required. Thryduulf (talk) 08:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Alpinista wins the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe[]

Consensus is against posting. Stephen 02:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further s should be made to this discussion.

Articles: Alpinista (talk · history · tag) and Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In horse racing, Alpinista wins the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Crs:
Nominator's comments: I added this to current news portal. I know very little about horse racing, but both articles are in good shape and from their content I gather this is a notable horse winning a prestigious event. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose and snow close not ITNR. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Events that are in a class covered by ITNR but not an ITNR themselves are not immediately disqualified from being posted, just they have the usual ITNC process to review. Masem (t) 19:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Agree. -- Sca (talk) 19:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • There's no reason to snow close. A recurring event can't become ITN/R until it passes ITN as a regular candidate. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Likewise I do not see why this should be closed just because it's not ITN/R. If we did that nothing would ever get posted bar a small handful of ever-diminishing number of recurring events.Abcmaxx (talk) 19:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Yes, but what you cannot deny is that a sporting event is not the same as a political or scientific event. These last ones can be debated (as it has happened in so many other occasions correctly) and come to the conclusion that in spite of not being listed as ITNR, they might be notorious. But in sporting events, more simply, if they are no longer ITNR, they can hardly be ITN. I remind again that not everything that’s in the news, should be proposed here. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        • Disagree, all items can be ITN if they are not ITN/R, just as all items can be reasonably debated; that is a core principle of Wikipedia. We also should not be weighting different topics differently either, that us a very slippery slope and poor precedent to set. If you object to the notability of the event then please state your case why, rather than trying to force through a blanket oppose with little merit. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        • ITN/R is a page designed for more easily pushing through items. You cannot use it to argue that something shouldn't be featured. Is what you intended to say simply "I do not believe this event is at the level of importance required for ITN"? If so, I would like to know more about how it compares with other horse racing events and why it's so much less important. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        @Alsoriano97: You have it totally backwards. Items cannot be added to ITN/R until they have been nominated and posted through ITN. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 12:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        ok, thanks for the clarification. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on article quality and significance. Contrary to the nomination text, most of the article is completely unreferenced and is quite short for a race that dates back to 1920. - Fuzheado | Talk 23:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose – Multiple "This section does not cite any sources" banners. Not appropriate for ITN if the article is not of sufficient quality. Not comment on significance. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 06:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The nomination should actually be for 2022 Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, not the generic race page. In any event, that 2022 page is a stub, so fails on quality. I'm also not hearing arguments on why this is significant for posting.—Bagumba (talk) 11:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose What Aslor is getting at (I think) is a general consensus about how we treat sports with many top-tier events. We don't want any sport to have lots of posts simply because of a lack of consensus about which event is premier. Historical discussions have pared horse racing to four ITN/R events, while explicitly excluding very prominent races (Santa Anita, Belmont and Preakness) to keep the number down. While consensus can change, this event's absence at ITN/R is a reflection of community consensus of its relative insignificance. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    That is circular reasoning. Again, an item doesn't get nominated for ITN/R unless it passes the significance test at ITN/C by showing it has been posted at least a couple of times. And its absence from ITN/C (and by extension ITN/R) in the past does not necessarily mean it's insignificant, but could simply be that someone who had interest in the subject matter finally came along and decided to argue for its posting. I remember in the past that we didn't have any sumo-related items on ITN/R until someone decided to step up and nominate the yokozuna promotions on ITN/C. It was interesting and unusual, and something that none of us had really considered before. We're not omniscient. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 14:23, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I agree it would be circular reasoning if I was making that argument you suggest I am. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Closed) Ramzan Kadyrov[]

WP:SNOW. Cogent and prescient opposition. No chance.
– Sca (talk) 10:38, October 2, 2022‎ (UTC)) (non-admin closure)

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Article: Ramzan Kadyrov (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ramzan Kadyrov joins the Russian rightwing, including Dmitry Medvedev, in advocating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ramzan Kadyrov joins the Russian right in advocating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons.
News source(s): CNN. Reuters, Al Jazeera
Crs:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Majority of Russian right now pressuring Putin to nuke Ukraine Johncdraper (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong oppose on the following:
1. Cannot see the ITN/R rationale anywhere.
2. Nominated article is about an individual not an event.
3. Threats of nuclear aggression are an ongoing Russian propaganda tool since February invasion, and arguably since the start of the Cold War.
4. Covered in ongoing.
5. Lacks any significance; all talk no action.
6. Sources only mention this remark in passing, and not widely commented upon elsewhere.
Abcmaxx (talk) 13:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further s should be made to this discussion.

2022 Latvian parliamentary election[]

Proposed image
Article: 2022 Latvian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In the 2022 Latvian parliamentary election, the ruling New Unity wins a minority. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In the Latvian parliamentary election, the ruling center-right New Unity (leader Krišjānis Kariņš pictured) wins a plurality of seats.
News source(s): bloomberg.com. euronews.com, DW, France 24
Crs:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: 97% of the votes have been counted. The center right party is victorious. Haris920 (talk) 10:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support once expanded looks like the article is in the process of being improved. also prefer the alt blurb. e.b. (talk) 15:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing: Brazilian general election[]

Consensus will not develop to put post-election wrangling in ongoing. Stephen 00:42, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Article: 2022 Brazilian general election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Article needs updating
 MSN12102001 (talk) 09:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait for results and nominate them as blurb, not ongoing. a!rado (C✙T) 09:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Just post the results the first round results are in. I don't recall having an ongoing section for the French Presidential election which is similar to this. Haris920 (talk) 10:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Strongly disagree, this nothing like the French election. Brazil is a much larger country both in terms of population and area, therefore the gap between the two rounds is much longer. Very different circumstances of the candidates and background to this election too. Furthermore and most importantly, France did not have a president that would realistically decline to recognise the results if lost and threaten reinstate a military dictatorship. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait let's see if the 2nd round is needed first; then given the particular set of circumstances this would qualify in between the rounds to have it as ongoing. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose as ongoing Unless the result of the second round is particularly close. Obviously if a candidate wins a majority in the first round, then the article should be posted per ITNR. Gust Justice (talk) 17:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait Until theres results, theres nothing to blurb/post; if Lula wins outright, it should just be a blurb; if a second round is needed, given the high profile of this election and the vitriol coming from the candidates and thier supporters, I think ongoing would be warrented. (this is not to say that 2 round election cycles should generally be nominated for ongoing between the votes) ✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  18:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Posted) 2022 World Rally Champions[]

Article: 2022 World Rally Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In motorsport, Kalle Rovanperä and Jonne Halttunen win the World Rally Championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In motorsport, Kalle Rovanperä wins the World Rally Championship, becoming the youngest World Rally Champion at the age of 22.
News source(s): wrc.com, dirtfish.com, autosport.com
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Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Despite the season has not finished yet, I believe the story is good to post as this is a record-breaking year. Unfortunately, I could not find a good image from Commons, so it would be very appreciated if someone could upload the free work of Rovanperä. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ongoing: Hurricane Ian[]

Article: Hurricane Ian (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Article updated

Nominator's comments: Ian is about to be displaced from the ITN box by two nominations that are getting ready to be posted. I propose that it go to ongoing while the search for survivors and remains is ongoing. The death toll has been rising quite a bit and it's expected to continue rising as searches continue pending the receding of water. NoahTalk 02:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It wasn't posted to ongoing because it was still a storm (it was only a remnant low by that time). It was posted (and survived a removal nom[10] after it had fully dissipated) because of the long-tail. Perhaps the better argument here is the scale of Idai was larger. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GreatCaesarsGhost:I wouldn't say that's the case. It's simply that southeastern Africa is less developed and has worse infrastructure and no way to deal with the aftermath of a storm. The days of a hurricane killing thousands in the mainland US are over because of infrastructure improvements and the government's ability to handle the aftermath of a storm. The scale of impact is similar, but less people died as a result of the US being able to evacuate and rescue people whereas that was not the case in Africa with Idai. There's still 10,000 people unaccounted for and a massive hunt for remains and survivors going on in Florida. The scale of the search operations are quite similar, however, less people will die in this case. NoahTalk 20:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, we just hit 100 deaths in Florida with more expected as searches continue. That's the highest amount of deaths in a single mainland US state from a hurricane for quite some time, especially considering the amount of preparations and building codes that have been implemented in Florida to prevent disasters like this. Most US hurricanes don't even reach 100 deaths and their impacts are spread out amongst multiple states, so to get 100 in a single state speaks to how bad the situation there is. NoahTalk 21:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose the article is for the hurricane itself, which is no longer ongoing. i think it makes more sense to keep updates on search and rescue to the current events tab, which is the norm for most disasters natural and otherwise. e.b. (talk) 16:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

October 1[]

October 1, 2022 (2022-10-01) (Saturday)

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RD: Sylvia Wu[]

Article: Sylvia Wu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LA Times
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death reported on this date. TJMSmith (talk) 18:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jim Sweeney (American football, born 1962)[]

Article: Jim Sweeney (American football, born 1962) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [11]
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support, I've tidied up the referencing a bit, looks OK - Dumelow (talk) 06:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium stampede[]

Article: 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In Malang, Indonesia, at least 182 people are killed in a stampede at a football match. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In Malang, Indonesia, at least 182 people are killed in a stampede at an association football match.
News source(s): Reuters CBS News
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 – Muboshgu (talk) 01:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support worst football incident in asia ever, worst football incident since 1964, worst human stampede in several years. so sad. e.b. (talk) 01:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't see them. Example? HiLo48 (talk) 03:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 30[]

September 30, 2022 (2022-09-30) (Friday)

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RD: Rick Redman[]

Article: Rick Redman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [15]
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Marvin Powell[]

Article: Marvin Powell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [16]
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support good to go.
_-_Alsor (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Dan Wieden[]

Article: Dan Wieden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ad Week
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American advertising executive - Dumelow (talk) 08:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Antonio Inoki[]

Article: Antonio Inoki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): F4W Online;
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Professional Wrestling Icon, Japanese Politician, probably deserves a blurb for being a transcendent figure in both Pro Wrestling and MMA Spman (talk)Spman (talk) 02:30, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Robin Marlar[]

Article: Robin Marlar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN; Sussex County CC
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:50, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) September 2022 Burkina Faso coup d'état[]

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Article: September 2022 Burkina Faso coup d'état (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In Burkina Faso, a coup d'état led by Ibrahim Traore deposes Interim President Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba (pictured). (Post)
News source(s): Reuters Al Jazeera
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Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Junta leader of Burkina Faso removed in coup. Johndavies837 (talk) 21:56, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing: 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine[]

WP:SNOW closing. Consensus to remove this item will not develop. BD2412 T 22:50, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Article: 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Nominator's comments: Remove the ongoing link, which is excessive while there is a posted blurb on Russia's annexation of Ukrainian regions. Those bolded links lead to pages which are navigable to other invasion-related info. —Bagumba (talk) 19:29, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I imagine this is why many didn't want to post a one-off story on the conflict. Do you propose readding it to ongoing when that blurb falls off? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:36, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Presumably it would still be ongoing. —Bagumba (talk) 19:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - While we often wait to post 'ongoing' until after the inciting event of the ongoing situation has moved off the list, and remove things from 'ongoing' if we post a story that marks the conclusion of the ongoing situation, this is neither of those. The war is still going on, and the current headline is only one part of it - just a part of such signficance that it also gets a headline. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - Worst time to remove the blurb, the conflict is going back to February/Marh 2022 levels of tensions. CR-1-AB (talk) 20:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose removal of an item that absolutely refuses to leave the front pages in world journals. -- Ohc revolution of our times 20:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. The invasion is clearly still ongoing, there is no reason to remove it just because a substory has been blurbed.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Per Amakuru.  — Rooves 13 (talk) 22:02, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - Just because Russia announces the annexation of four Ukrainian regions, doesn't mean the invasion isn't still very much an ongoing story. DJMcNiff (talk) 22:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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RD: Héctor López[]

Article: Héctor López (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced today. Date of death not given. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:02, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kabul bombing[]

Article: September 2022 Kabul school bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​A suicide attack on a training center kills at least 23 people and injured 27 in Kabul, Afghanistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​A suicide attack on an education center kills at least 23 people and injures 27 in Kabul, Afghanistan.
News source(s): CNN, BBC, The Guardian, DAWN, Al Jazeera, AP, DW, France24
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 Ainty Painty (talk) 10:29, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wait - Obvious reasons Prodrummer619 (talk)(@ when responding) 10:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 29[]

September 29, 2022 (2022-09-29) (Thursday)

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(Posted) RD:Akissi Kouamé[]

Article: Akissi Kouamé (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Press Ivoire (in French)
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First Ivorian female army officer. An article I wrote a few years ago to improve our coverage of female military figures. Dumelow (talk) 19:37, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Al Primo[]

Article: Al Primo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Philadelphia Inquirer; Pittsburgh Tribune-Review; WABC-TV
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 20:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Spencer: done – removed because I could not find any reliable sources to verify the info. —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:02, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted. Thanks for the new footnotes, Bloom. --PFHLai (talk) 19:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Leonard A. Cole[]

Article: Leonard A. Cole (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (September 29); died on September 18. —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:12, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) 2022 annexation referendums in Russian-occupied Ukraine[]

Articles: 2022 annexation referendums in Russian-occupied Ukraine (talk · history · tag) and Annexation of Southern and Eastern Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Putin declares four occupied Ukrainian territories as part of Russia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The four Ukrainian Oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are formally annexed by Russia after widely condemned referendums.
Alternative blurb II: ​Four districts (Oblasts) of Russian-occupied Ukraine – Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson – are formally annexed by Russia after so-called referendums are condemned by the international community.
Alternative blurb III: ​Four Oblasts of Ukraine are annexed by Russia after referendums are held within the territories.
Alternative blurb IV: ​Russia annexes the occupied Ukrainian oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.
Alternative blurb V: ​Russia announces the annexation of the occupied Ukrainian oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson after widely-condemned referendums.
Alternative blurb VI: ​Russia announces the annexation of the partially occupied Ukrainian oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson after widely-condemned referendums.
News source(s): CNN Reuters

Nominator's comments: This WILL happen and it's the most aggressive geopolitical/territorial change in the Western World since the end of the Cold War. Needs a better blurb. I posted this a bit early because the articles need a bit of cleanup and updates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:2f0e:d619:3d00:417c:3eac:70d0:f5cd (talk • contribs)

  • My apologies for not realizing this wouldn't actually be completed until tomorrow in my first comment above. The article should probably make this clearer. Right now it's only listing all of the results. I agree that this discussion should be temporarily closed until the correct date. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Alt4 is the one to use, when this actually happens. But that bolded article needs major work and is currently the subject of a move discussion. Modest Genius talk 15:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We should not be trying to characterize the referendums, though we can mention something like "widely considered illegitimate" Masem (t) 22:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If I introduced my son to you as "widely considered illegitimate", wouldn't that characterize him as a bastard? Well, it should. Same deal here, approximately enough (if a reader looks even slightly into the lead, they'll know what "we" want them to think). InedibleHulk (talk) 00:36, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I think the intent is to annex the entire territory of the four oblasts so that the Ukrainian control of some parts could be considered aggression on Russian soil and the use of nuclear weapon would be justified. If they controlled the entire oblasts, they would've not rushed with these referenda.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:46, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Looking at how the blurb changed being about the announcement to being an actual annexation, it seems that this was done unilaterally for "balance". No discussion, no consensus, no balance. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The biggest problem with the current blurb, is legally the territories haven't been annexed yet, the Russian State Duma still has to rubber stamp the "treaties" before they can be officially incorporated into Russia... Expected to happen sometime between October 4-5. ✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  21:06, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 28[]

September 28, 2022 (2022-09-28) (Wednesday)

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RD: John Rowe (Exelon)[]

Article: John Rowe (Exelon) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune; Chicago Sun-Times (Legacy.com)
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (September 28); died on September 24. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:49, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]