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RD: Jim Lehrer[]

Article: Jim Lehrer (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NYT, NBC News
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Long-time American journalist and PBS news anchor, who moderated many presidential debates, dies at age 85. Davey2116 (talk) 18:43, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Doomsday clock[]

SNOW close. SpencerT•C 21:18, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Doomsday Clock (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Scientests advance the Doomsday Clock to 100 seconds before midnight, the first time it has been under 2 minutes, due to increased risk of nuclear warfare and global warming.
News source(s): NBC News
Crs:
Nominator's comments: Outside of a few image updates due to this new state, the article is updated and ready. Masem (t) 16:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • 100 seconds? Really? How long is this farce going to continue? Editorializing aside, I have nominated the Doomsday Clock before and consensus was usually against it. So oppose.--WaltCip (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per all previous nominations. It's a meaningless scale. Modest Genius talk 17:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose We'll post the clock when it hits midnight and the nuclear holocaust is underway. Until then, its just a meme. Teemu08 (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
But none of us will be around to post it then. ;) 331dot (talk) 18:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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OpposeSca (talk) 18:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
(However, a Doomsday Device would be a different matter.) – Sca (talk)


  • Oppose - Mostly per Modest Genius. Otherwise it does not appear to be anything special at this point. PackMecEng (talk) 18:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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  • Elliott Management, a prominent hedge fund, has sold all its shares in the Hyundai Motor Group of South Korea. It had long quarreled with Hyundai's management, demanding more generous dividend pay-outs. Their departure from the shareholder ranks is likely welcomed by Hyundai executives. (Reuters)

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Ongoing removal: Citizenship Amendment Act protests[]

Article: Citizenship Amendment Act protests (talk, history)
Ongoing item removal

Nominator's comments: The last protests (this is an article about protests) were on January 17th with around 10k people. Since then it's been legislative wrangling and petitions. Time to come down. LaserLegs (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

The latest developments in the article aren't "protests" it was a petition and lawsuits. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I am not sure what beef you have with this article, but you have now resorted to lies that are quite easy to prove. Here are a few major updates of past 1 week and clearly they are more than lawsuits and petitions. see below. --DBigXray 02:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Summary of major updates in last 1 week
16 January
  • Police in Chennai banned all protests in the city for a period of 15 days. 6 were detained by the police for protesting against CAA.
17 January
  • The Punjab Legislative Assembly, that has the Indian National Congress in majority, passed a resolution against the Act and urged the Modi Government to avoid discrimination on the basis of religion through the new Act. The resolution was moved by Punjab minister for parliamentary affairs Brahm Mohindra of the Congress and was supported by the Aam Aadmi Party and the Lok Insaaf Party
  • Inspired by the Shaheen Bagh protest, a massive anti-CAA-NRC-NPR protest started in Mumbai. Around 10,000 women gathered at the YMCA ground in Mumbai to protest in the evening. The protest was organised by a NGO named Mumbai Citizen Quorum.
  • Around 500 women start a sit in protest at the Clock tower grounds in Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh.
18 January
  • Uttar Pradesh police cracked down on the CAA protesters near the Clock Tower in Lucknow
19 January
  • In Delhi, hundreds of protesters joined a protest march holding lighted candles from Jamia University to Shaheen Bagh
20 January
  • Several Labour MPs of the UK parliament discussed the concerns on the CAA, in a meeting organised by South Asia Solidarity Group (SASG) and Ambedkar International Mission (UK) in London.
21 January
  • More than 300,000 people join an anti-CAA protest rally at Kalaburagi in Karnataka.
  • In a unique way of protesting, more than a hundred women protesters at Khureji Khas in Delhi released 10,000 gas filled black coloured balloons with the message "No CAA NPR NRC".
  • Police register cases against 160 women for violation of the ban on assembly and protesting against CAA in Lucknow.
  • Despite ban on assembly, Home Minister Amit Shah addresses a pro CAA public rally at Lucknow.
22 January
  • Thousands of students from 9 universities in North-East India boycott classes and join protest march in the states of Assam, Nagaland, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh.
  • A 5 kilometer long procession against CAA was led by CM Mamta Bannerjee in Darjeeling, West Bengal.
  • Women continue sit in protests at the Haj House near Kadru Over Bridge in Ranchi, Jharkhand enters third day.
  • 144 CAA related petitions scheduled for hearing in the Supreme Court of India were brought up.

--DBigXray 02:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

My "beef" with the article is that it is stale, none of the pertinent recent updates you mentioned existed when I nominated the article for removal, instead you added them [5] [6] [7] [8] then you call me a liar. Tell you what, I'll take it to WP:ANI in the morning. Cheers. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
LaserLegs, The version you linked contains 7 updates that are common with what I wrote above. How does 7 equals "none" ? On ANI threats, sure and looking at your past experiences with ANI, due to your ITN behaviour I would advice caution on the WP:BOOMERANG. DBigXray 02:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
What do you mean by "is a Tuesday"? Banedon (talk) 03:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
= "is routine." Very large protests have become extremely common in the last few years. I would speculate that protests of >10K people occur in multiple places every day. 159.53.174.143 (talk) 13:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
First link is about a court ruling, not protests. Second and third links are analysis, not "new, pertinent information" as stipulated Wikipedia:In_the_news#Ongoing_section. Thanks for proving my point. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:24, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
As updated here more than 300,000 people joined in a rally on 21 Jan. I would not rush to call that reduced intensity or relevance. --DBigXray 03:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
@WaltCip: we can discuss this at WT:ITN, at my talk page, or at WP:ANI if you think I'm not behaving appropriately -- I don't think this is the right venue. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news#ITN_Ongoing_removal_nominations_by_LaserLegs as requested.DBigXray 15:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Oppose This is still making a huge ongoing forever impact in Indian politics and the economy. It would continue for unforeseen future until the Indian government withdraw from legalising the citizenship act. Abishe (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted to RD) RD or blurb: Terry Jones[]

Wikipedia has decided that it doesn't want any more Spam on the main page. Nevertheless, RIP Terry Jones.--WaltCip (talk) 14:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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Proposed image
Article: Terry Jones (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Monty Python actor Terry Jones (pictured) dies aged 77.
News source(s): BBC
Crs:
Nominator's comments: There are couple of gaps that need sourcing, but will work on these now. (Addendum: I would also support the addition of a blurb for this: he's a member of one of the world's best known comedy troupes) SchroCat (talk) 12:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support blurb - A prime example of a comedian and writer who was absolute tops in his business. Definitely on the same level as other blurbed persons we have posted.--WaltCip (talk) 13:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support RD only Neither the manner of his death nor the events surrounding it need special explanation; as a result there's nothing to say in a blurb other than "he died". Such types of death are what RD was created for. --Jayron32 13:16, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
A person need not die in an unusual manner in order to be blurbed.--WaltCip (talk) 13:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
The guidance listed at Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths#Blurb? tends to disagree with that, it notes "In general, if a person's death is only notable for what they did while alive, it belongs as an RD link. If the person's death itself is newsworthy for either the manner of death or the newsworthy reaction to it, it may merit a blurb." Several people, yourself among them, have asserted this is an exception to that rule, but have provided no evidence this merits an exception. That is, where can I read in sources outside of Wikipedia that his death is of such significance that it merits a blurb? Anyone can assert anything. It just requires one to type things. The real kicker is how can one show evidence that ones assertion is valid as supported by reliable sources. I've looked, I'm not seeing the sort of reliable sources coverage to indicate this merits a blurb. --Jayron32 13:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Your second comment is well-stated and valid; I'm wondering why it was not your first. It would simplify matters if ors commented on the obvious criterion for which the blurb is being suggested, rather than oppose an argument that no one is making. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:35, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I only made one point: We should follow the guidance based on existing standards already and long since written down, unless people can provide clear evidence that an exception should be made. Normal operating procedure is to post deaths to RD, and where we post a blurb instead, there are criteria for that. My objections directly address the reasons people are giving for posting this as a blurb, which is that Jones somehow counts as an exception to the standard " if a person's death is only notable for what they did while alive, it belongs as an RD link. If the person's death itself is newsworthy for either the manner of death or the newsworthy reaction to it, it may merit a blurb." which I quote a second time. People have asserted his career is itself meritorious of a blurb. I have merely noted that such assertions should carry little to no weight without evidence that sources outside of Wikipedia are treating it with a similarly elevated level of attention over the normal obituary cycle. No one, has yet, provided such evidence. --Jayron32 15:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Standards can change. Consensus can change. If the standards do not agree with the process that we have been undertaking for the past two years or so, that does not inherently mean all of those past actions were mistakes. It could mean that the standards that we came up with years ago no longer reflect the orial consensus on ITN/C. I am arguing from the standpoint of overall notability, recognition, and how news sources have responded to Terry Jones's passing. Several notable people also in Jones's field have spoken out on social media, as per the BBC article. It would not surprise me if there were further news coverage even after today.--WaltCip (talk) 16:35, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Dozens of dead celebrities have been eulogized by their peers and inspirees on Twitter this year, with quite a few mentioned even one day later in the news. That's a low bar to crawl over. Keep the higher standard, I say. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support blurb per WaltCip. Blurb added. Mjroots (talk) 13:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb per WaltCip. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC) - Having said that: minor improvements are still wanted, example ref 26, which is a bare url, and positioned after "Medieval" about which it says nothing, while it would rather support "Barberians" which has no ref at all. - The image - sorry - is awful, at least in that size, looking as if a hand grew at a strange place. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Lead image has recently changed. to Spanish Inquisition character Cardinal Biggles, but not many close-ups to choose from. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: The image really needs to be of TJ as himself, rather than playing a character. That said, there is a better one, so I swapped the image in the nom. Mjroots (talk) 14:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the swap, but it's not a great image, so perhaps blurb but no image. If we need to show this one, it might be cropped bottem and right, to have his face more in the centre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:27, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
This might upset the purists, but how about a crop of this image? Monty Python Live 02-07-14 12 47 22 (14415436819).jpg It shows him performing the "Spanish Inquisition" scene, and would be a good way to pay tribute to his comedic genius!  — Amakuru (talk) 14:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hell yes Well what you got? Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and blurb; egg bacon and blurb; egg bacon sausage and blurb; blurb bacon sausage and blurb; blurb egg blurb blurb bacon and blurb; blurb sausage blurb blurb bacon blurb tomato and blurb; blurb blurb blurb egg and blurb; blurb blurb blurb blurb blurb blurb baked beans blurb blurb blurb or Lobster Thermidor au Crevette with a Mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and blurb. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Eughhh! Have you got anything without blurb in it? I don't want any blurb.--WaltCip (talk) 14:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Well, there's egg, bacon and blurb, that hasn't got much blurb in it, Mjroots (talk) 14:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
At least on this nomination, I think we can afford a bit of Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam....--- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 14:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
User:Ritchie333, Please unbold the comment.DBigXray 14:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support RD only per User:Jayron32. I know he is a popular actor and have seen Monty Python films. The subject lacks major awards that UK confers. I am not convinced that a blurb is merited here. DBigXray 14:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • plus Posted to RD. Blurb discussions may continue — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
    @MSGJ: Is there a reason you moved the blurb criteria to an information page off the main ITN criteria? As says the legend, info pages are not policy and not vetted, where I believe the blurb criteria is. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb not Mandela or Thatcher --LaserLegs (talk) 14:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
No, but he's Terry Jones.--WaltCip (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Nor were Prince or Carrie Fisher, but there we go. Black Kite (talk) 14:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
It should be noted that we are not required to repeat past mistakes forever. If something had been done in the past that should not have been, it doesn't mean we must continue to do the wrong thing forever. At any point, we must make our decisions on what is the right thing to do, not on what we may or may not have done before (each of which in retrospect may be judged as having been a bad idea). --Jayron32 15:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Also, Prince's death was a complete surprise (rather than old age), and was a top recording artist in his field. Fisher is the type of blurb case we want to avoid. --Masem (t) 16:28, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb The crowd here skews both nerd and British, so I think we may be overstating his importance. The Pythons are big, but does each get a blurb? GreatCaesarsGhost 14:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
We have a Wikiproject WP:WPSPAM. We have a content guideline about WP:SPAM. Who is a key person who caused the word "spam" to mean other things than food? Terry Jones. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb - on balance, yes I think so. I had a "wow moment" when I saw the news, and it's front page on the websites of the New York Times and Le Monde, so is a global story already. I would also support WP:IAR (if there is any rule on this) and use a crop of the Spanish Inquisition photo, as mentioned above, as it is a fitting tribute to him.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:46, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I didn't expect a picture of the Spanish Inquisition! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:48, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Nobody expected it :O Tone 14:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Amakuru, then I hope you are going to invoke this WP:IAR for every artist across the world. If you aren't going to do that then your acts are actually reinforcing the opinion that the ITN is biased in favour of American and British personalities. --DBigXray 16:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
    @DBigXray: my mention of IAR was related to the choice of image, not the decision as to whether to blurb or not. As for ITN being biased in favour of American/British personalities, that's not actually the case. It's actually biased in favour of things that are in the news. And that people want to read our articles about because they're in the news.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
    Amakuru, then I stand corrected. I got an impression that you are using IAR for the blurb. Which news ? The British and American news sites will obviously give a disproportionate coverage for their domestic audience, passing the buck wont help reducing the bias. --DBigXray 17:16, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb. Popular and influential, but not at the level of global importance at which we should be setting a blurb. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb Yes, I think so. You can usually tell by the amount and level of reaction to a death and I believe this clears the bar. Black Kite (talk) 14:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb - I may be a huge MP fan, but we have to recognize that few of the individual members had a significant impact "top of the field" contributions for entertainment beyond Python (Cleese and Gilliam, they are different stories). His health issues were documented so this death was not a surprise, either. We want to avoid the fan-driven impulse to post this like what happened with Carrie Fisher. RD is fine enough. --Masem (t) 14:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support RD, oppose blurb. Much as I enjoyed his work, he died of dementia in old age, and the reaction to his death has not been a major news story in itself. Very sad, but exactly what RD is for. Modest Genius talk 15:14, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb - I definitely think this passes the bar for a Blurb mention. Has received massive amount of attention.BabbaQ (talk) 15:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb Fond of the man's work as I am, I don't see why this is blurbworthy. He was old, it was well known he was gravely ill, and he's not as well-known outside of Python as Cleese/Gilliam/Idle, which limits his influence. (Not dismissing his comedic skills, more than Python as a whole deserves some group cr.) Nohomersryan (talk) 16:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb as per statement of WaltCip Joseywales1961 (talk) 16:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb per WaltCip --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb Look, I love Monty Python as much as the next person, but this is not a blurb worthy death. It strikes me as systemic bias at its core to think of one in this case. He was not a Bowie / Mandela / Thatcher type, and his death wasn't as shocking as Prince or Carrie Fisher. I don't see the level of tributes coming out for TJ as did for those deaths, which is what made those blurb worthy. RD is fine here. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
    • Yup - I've seen comments from the other living Pythons and some other significant writers, but this is not "shocking" the world that we'd normally post blurbs on. The battle with dementia made his death a matter of when, not if, and everyone had been ready for it. --Masem (t) 17:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb agreed that he was a comedic genius and a step above a lot of the people on RD, but still not former U.S. President/British PM tier. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 18:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Blurb please As someone not of the US, the UK or the Commonwealth, I'd say that a Python deserves a blurb. As to the actual blurb, I think Jones' legacy other than being "one of the pythons" would be being cred as director in two of the greatest comedy films of all time. Be best if "director" could be inserted somewhere. Usedtobecool ☎️ 22:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support blurb It's a common name and so a blurb would provide some helpful context for the reader. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb it's there if I look for it, but other topics are dominating the headlines. Banedon (talk) 23:24, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • No blurb The proposal is a shorter version of his existing line at Deaths in 2020, and his bio's opening sentence. Clearly cooler than Thatcher, Franklin or Prince, but that's irrelevant. Slightly complicated stories are what matter here. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb RD is fine for a not-unexpected death from natural causes. P-K3 (talk) 23:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb – beloved comedian, yes, but not top of his field as far as I can tell. His death was also long expected. Falls short of the importance for a blurb, imo. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 01:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb – Regardless of intense cult following, Terry Jones isn't a generally significant household name, IMHO. – Sca (talk) 01:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb -- Not a household name. -- Rockstonetalk to me! 02:19, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb - per the above opposes. Carcharoth (talk) 12:36, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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  • Two judicial sources announce that the trial of seven Cameroonian soldiers has begun for the killing of two women and two children in July 2018, in a case that sparked international outcry. Six of the soldiers admit to the charges, but say they were given the order to open fire. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Morgan Wootten[]

Article: Morgan Wootten (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CBS Sports
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The greatest high school coach in the USA. Added refs to coaching record but some parts there need refs. ミラP 01:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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RD: Jō Shishido[]

Article: Joe Shishido (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NHK, The Hollywood Reporter
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Internationally famous Japanese film star most renowned for his work from the 1960s and 1970s. CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wolfgang J. Fuchs[]

Article: Wolfgang J. Fuchs (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Tagespiegel
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Writer of first German standard book on comics, translator of Garfield and Mom's Cancer to German, among others - I translated the German article. Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted to ongoing) 2019–20 Lebanese protests[]

Article: 2019–20 Lebanese protests (talk, history)
Blurb: ​After weeks of relative calm, protests in Lebanon escalate to open conflicts between protesters and security forces, with more than 370 people being injured.
Alternative blurb: ​After weeks of relative calm, protests in Lebanon escalate to open conflicts between protesters and security forces while a new cabinet takes office.
News source(s): NBC NEws
Crs:

Article updated

 --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 06:47, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

You might consider nominating the CAA protests for removal --LaserLegs (talk) 13:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jaroslav Kubera[]

Article: Jaroslav Kubera (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [12] [13]
Crs:

Nominator's comments: president of the Senate of the Czech Republic, long-serving Czech politician — Draceane talkcontributions 18:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted as blurb) Ongoing: 2019–20 outbreak of novel coronavirus[]

Article: 2019–20 outbreak of novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) (talk, history)
Blurb: No blurb specified
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The outbreak of a new type of coronavirus has been making headlines over the past week or so. The daily update from China shows 139 new cases (compared to a total of 62 up until yesterday), so it's probably going to get even more coverage now. Johndavies837 (talk) 22:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

plus Posted. El_C 10:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
OK, although even some RS reporting seems rather hyped. But deaths have risen to six. – Sca (talk) 13:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jimmy Heath[]

Article: Jimmy Heath (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NPR
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Influential jazz saxophonist and composer. Prose looks fine, discography could use some references shoy (reactions) 19:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Support. Very long and productive career (reads like a Who's Who of mid 20th-century jazz). Performed on more than 100 albums, including 7 with Heath Brothers and 12 as a leader; also wrote more than 125 compositions. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:51, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

January 18[]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

International relations

Law and crime

RD: Gordon A. Smith[]

Article: Gordon A. Smith (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [18]
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Influential British-born Canadian artist; centenarian 2607:FEA8:1DDF:FEE1:9C2F:D4F1:3:574F (talk) 21:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Article is in good state. I've tagged a couple of sentences where references are needed. Otherwise it looks good — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) 2020 Afgooye bombing[]

No consensus to post. Stephen 00:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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Article: 2020 Afgooye bombing (talk, history)
Blurb: ​A car bombing kills 4 and injures at least 20 others near Afgoye, Somalia.
News source(s): Global.ca Al Jazeera Forces.net
Crs:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Attack on Turkish aid workers near Mogadishu LaserLegs (talk) 00:03, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Comment This article needs some verification and expansion, but i support to it to include in ITN section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.245.111.65 (talk) 02:25, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose It would need some expansion, but I'm also not certain of the notability as stands. Feel free to ping me for review when the article's expanded. Kingsif (talk) 06:14, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose if this had been an US School Shooting we wouldn't bother posting, and Somalia is a borderline warzone. Juxlos (talk) 07:55, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not really notable, especially for a war zone like Somalia. Prism55 (talk) 08:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Per two previous. – Sca (talk) 15:00, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

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January 17[]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Bobby Kay[]

Article: Bobby Kay (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [19] [20]
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Canadian professional wrestler; member of the Cormier wrestling family -- one of Canada's best-known wrestling families GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Hwang Sun-hui[]

Article: Hwang Sun-hui (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): 김정은, 리설주 여사와 빈소 찾아 조문 故 황순희, 김일성·김정숙 등과 항일운동
Crs:

Nominator's comments: A North Korean politician. ミラP 02:32, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Terence Hallinan[]

Article: Terence Hallinan (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): KRON
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The DA of SanFran. Neutrality in politics section needs some sorting out ditto some small paragraphs but every paragraph is referenced. ミラP 02:25, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: David Glass[]

Article: David Glass (businessman) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Kansas City Star
Crs:

Nominator's comments: He died on January 9, but the death was just announced today. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:29, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Bueller? Bueller? – Muboshgu (talk) 22:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

(Removed) Ongoing removal 2019–20 Australian bushfire season[]

Article: 2019–20 Australian bushfire season (talk, history)
Ongoing item removal

Nominator's comments: Yes the fires are still ongoing, yes the article is still getting updates. Those "updates" are ref improvements, copy s, and low grade wars. The most recent "new, pertinent information" is a note on January 6th that "Premier Andrews said that bushfires had burnt through 1.2 million hectares" and on the 5th a fire near Voyager Point that was "containing the fire to 60 hectares". Since the 14th of January the only new information I see are a few bits of proseline about international support. What was burning on the 10th? I have no idea because the article has no new information. Same for today. The requirements for ongoing are "continuously updated" not "continuously ed" and the updates simply aren't happening. LaserLegs (talk) 23:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Think positive, dammit! A natural lack of hope is not enough. We sometimes need to actually want things to end, before they really do. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:38, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
I'll think cautiously thanks. The fires in both those earlier events came within about four kilometres of my house, which would be regarded as being in one of Melbourne's (outer) suburbs. I'm still watching out. HiLo48 (talk) 21:55, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
You seem to have picked a good place to live, my upside-down friend. I got smoked by a record-breaking blizzard yesterday, but it only broke records four provinces over. Still turned the sky almost pure white for a few hours, then the deepest, darkest blue after the hydro went out. One witness described it as "Heaven on Earth, but not in a warm way." That old man then prepared to die regretfully, but it turned out alright, because that old man still is me. May you continue to shine on through what clouds you're shown this "summer", because you're unforsaken, too! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Hardly. The next ongoing item on the Main Page right now is Impeachment trial of Donald Trump. While it feels to me like that's been going on forever, I know rationally that it will stop at some point. HiLo48 (talk) 02:55, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Derek Fowlds[]

Article: Derek Fowlds (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: British entertainer and actor. Minor referencing issues. Mjroots (talk) 15:49, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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