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Coronavirus pandemic Disease Virus Timeline (March) By location Impact Deaths Portal The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen Vincent van Gogh's painting The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (pictured) is stolen from the Singer Laren museum in the Netherlands. North Macedonia becomes a member of NATO. The 2020 Summer Olympics are postponed for one year due to the coronavirus pandemic. Recent deaths: Joachim Yhombi-Opango Lorena Borjas Arianne Caoili Francis Rapp Philip W. Anderson Robert H. Garff Other recent events Nominate an article view - page history - related changes -

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March 31[]

(Ready) RD: James T. Goodrich[]

 Natureium (talk) 15:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• COVID-related --Masem (t) 17:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support barring that one marked CN (about his influence from Olser, which I'm unable to find a source for immediately - however, there's still news reports coming in on his death so may be sourcable). That line's not needed immediately otherwise this seems ready to go. --Masem (t) 17:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Meets the requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 18:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support per Masem's assessment. TJMSmith (talk) 18:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Awaiting missing reference (or removal of sentence if not required) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I removed the uncited statement. TJMSmith (talk) 18:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

March 30[]

(Posted) RD: Joachim Yhombi-Opango[]

Nominator's comments: Congolese president & prime minister. COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 02:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Weak oppose it's justifiably tagged as poorly constructed, but once that's resolved, it might be suitable. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Will fully support this as soon as the career section is broken up into digestible sections. TJMSmith (talk) 11:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment - Yhombi-Opango was the prime minister and president of the Republic of Congo. Should this be a blurb? TJMSmith (talk) 11:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately I don't think the quality of the article leads it to reach that level of posting. Spencer^T•C 14:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

  ( conflict) Probably not. Based on the lack of consensus to blurb Daniel arap Moi, a twenty-year Kenyan president who also died of old age recently, it's unlikely there'll be consensus for this one in a non-English-speaking country... I'm guessing we will end up posting blurbs for the likes of Jimmy Carter, John Major, John Howard etc, but that's just the way it is. Also, the quality needs to be fixed up before it can even go to RD.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Heads of state/government in non-English speaking countries tend to have a higher bar to clear for blurb status, which I don't believe this passes. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 17:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support satis. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 17:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Added sections per The Rambling Man, TJMSmith. - Indefensible (talk) 16:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Indefensible! TJMSmith (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support RD only. Past sitting president of a non-G20-type country is ..at least at this point, not high priority for ITN. But otherwise looks good. --Masem (t) 17:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lorena Borjas[]

Nominator's comments: Mexican/American transgender rights activist. COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 02:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support A well sourced new article. TJMSmith (talk) 11:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Arianne Caoili[]

Nominator's comments: Filipino/Australian Chess Woman International Master. - Indefensible (talk) 02:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Non-COVID related. --Masem (t) 17:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support article is sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 11:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Viktor Orbán rule by decree in Hungary[]

Nominator's comments: Related to the coronavirus pandemic, but is more connected to the general shift towards authoritarianism under Orbán. A very significant focal point in that regard, and will have profound impacts on Hungarian politics. Articles needs updating and check for quality. ― Hebsen (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Lots of countries have been imposing decrees and states of emergency which have been criticised as threats to liberty. This doesn't seem very different and the article hasn't been updated. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:51, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I want to support this - it's a huge victory for right wing authoritarianism - but the target is orange tagged and there is no update. Maybe COVID-19 in Hungary is a better target? Is anyone contesting this (I smell a constitutional crisis brewing). --LaserLegs (talk) 11:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – Hungarian political machinations, however ominous they may sound, generally lack wider significance. (Blurb lacks period.) – Sca (talk) 14:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Please do not... "oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." --LaserLegs (talk) 14:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Going to the infallible rule book again, are we? Use your head. The item is of scant interest to a majority of Eng.-lang. readers, esp. in the current news environment. – Sca (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

How did you make that determination? 331dot (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

( conflict) I used my head. It's chock full of empirical guidance. – Sca (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Did you survey all English speakers in the world? I wasn't called. Seriously, what was your guidance? 331dot (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

AUT TACE AUT LOQUERE MELIORA SILENTIO. – Sca (talk) 15:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support on the merits. A legislative body voting to surrender its authority with no end date is unusual. 331dot (talk) 14:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose As noted, we haven't actually got any content on the issue at hand. Nigej (talk) 16:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support on merit, oppose on quality the "indefinite" part is the newsworthy item, however there are quite a few uncited paragraphs and a lot of citation needed tags, and an orange tag. Also, it hasn't been duly updated for this event. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support and suggest alt-blurb - A formerly democratic European country sliding to dictatorship is a big fucking deal. That said, Victor Orban isn't the best target - I suggest instead 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Hungary#State of emergency. Rami R 17:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support in principle, agree with above that the target should be changed from Orban Kingsif (talk) 18:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Week oppose This seems like yet another coronavirus article we're highlighting, and we have a permalink in the ITN box for a reason, to avoid incremental and local updates on the issue, which would overwhelm the ITN box. --Jayron32 18:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen[]

Article: The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Vincent van Gogh's painting The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (pictured) is stolen from the Singer Laren museum in the Netherlands.
Alternative blurb: ​The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (pictured), a painting by Vincent van Gogh, is stolen in the Netherlands.
News source(s): (Artnet news), AP, BBC, Reuters, DW (Eng.)
Crs:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk • give cr)
• Updated by The lorax (talk • give cr) and Theramin (talk • give cr)

Both articles updated

 Mjroots (talk) 16:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment – Support in principle, but target article(s) need expansion, esp. The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen, which probably should be the primary target. – Sca (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yeah, expansion's going to be critical here, without that... --Masem (t) 17:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Instead of Singer Laren, the emphasized article could be changed to Vincent van Gogh, which is a Featured Article. Then it probably would be post-worthy on quality. - Indefensible (talk) 23:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Added an altblurb to this effect. Support nomination for posting. - Indefensible (talk) 23:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
    • @Indefensible: - I've tweaked your altblurb to bold the painting article, which is in a reasonable shape and is the main reason for the blurb. Mjroots (talk) 06:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
      • Only one link is to be bolded, reverted. --qedk (t 心 c) 09:29, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
        • In which case, I Oppose the alt blurb, as the painting is the story, not the artist. Mjroots (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
          • Switched the emphasis from the painter to the painting in the altblurb. This way also works fine in my opinion. - Indefensible (talk) 15:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
        • Can't multiple articles be emphasized? This was the case with recent entries, e.g. the Turing Award. - Indefensible (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support original Article has been expanded, only the painting should be bolded. Brandmeister^talk 10:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support First Blurb per Brandmeister. Kenmelken (talk) 12:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• A few more cites needed, and support the original blurb once those are fixed. Per Masem and Brandmeister, it's the painting is the subject, not Vincent Van Gogh. It's debatable whether the theft should even be mentioned in the artist's article, and we don't generally choose the bolded article on the basis of whether it's an FA or not.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Question why is this notable? Seems like a non-violent petty theft of something a handful of people consider very important. If we could put a value on it, then it could be evaluated against something like the Dresden heist --LaserLegs (talk) 14:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support either. – Grabbing a multimillion-dollar painting is hardly "petty theft," and Van Gogh is a headline name. Good nuff to go. – Sca (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Weak support once the cn tags have been addressed. This is an obscure early Van Gogh, not a hugely influential work, so in normal times I would oppose. But we need to put something up on the template and this is the best nomination we've had for several days. Modest Genius ^talk 15:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• References have been added. Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

RD: Hau Pei-tsun[]

 Ythlev (talk) 08:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• non-COVID related --Masem (t) 17:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose most of the bio is unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

March 29[]

(Posted) RD: Francis Rapp[]

Nominator's comments: French historian, Knight of the Legion of Honour. Died from COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 20:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Publications section is not fully referenced currently, will remove unreferenced content as necessary. - Indefensible (talk) 20:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

  Would this help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

  talk, I added it, looks decent enough for me. I checked that all publications without ISBN are listed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Article is well sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 11:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Philip Warren Anderson[]

Nominator's comments: American physicist, Nobel laureate. - Indefensible (talk) 17:54, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• non-COVID related (it appears) --Masem (t) 17:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Article is sourced and in depth. TJMSmith (talk) 19:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD Sourced, and unlike many scientist bios is well fleshed out about his contributions to his field. Spencer^T•C 21:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

RD: Ken Shimura[]

Nominator's comments: Japanese comedian. COVID related. Article needs several sourcing fixes. Masem (t) 05:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose too much work to do here. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

RD: Isaac Robinson[]

Nominator's comments: Suspected COVID-19 death DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Article is short but well referenced DannyS712 (talk) 03:37, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - This article was recently expanded and is well sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 03:54, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Seems to meet the requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 05:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose I refuse to believe that a member of the US government less than 50 years old does not have a certain date or location of birth. There's more information in his mother's BLP. And blind speculation about his death as well? The two most important facts in a person's life and our BLP cannot even manage those.130.233.2.84 (talk) 12:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Rm ready; insufficient depth of coverage. In terms of his political career, article is a resume in prose format. There is only 1 sentence describing what he did as a politician, and that is related to coronavirus legislation. Spencer^T•C 15:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I just got the feeling that, with no disrespect, he was just a "meh" minor politician who warranted an article purely based on arbitrary notability criteria and who really hadn't done anything politically notable in his career. Maybe that was an oversight. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 15:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I checked Newspapers.com and Google for DoB and didn't find anything. Maybe someone else will have more luck but I am not sure it was ever published. Kees08 (Talk) 16:43, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - Although I know that any person with an individual article is technically eligible for RD, the article reads like an obituary. Reliable source coverage will be needed to confirm this individual's notability pre-obit.--WaltCip (talk) 17:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Added a source. Seems to have decent coverage now. - Indefensible (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment There doesn't appear to be a single source actually about him apart from the news reports on his death (and all the others are local news sources). That doesn't exactly yell "notable" at me. Black Kite (talk) 17:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Members of state legislators are not notable enough, especially ones that haven't even served a complete term. It is not known if he died due to coronavirus and even if so that would still not make him notable enough for a recent death mention. - Jon698 (talk) 12:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

  Jon698, all U.S. state legislators are notable through WP:NPOL, and all notable individuals qualify for RD if the article is up to par. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Article has large gaps in coverage which makes it ineligible for quality reasons for the main page. --Jayron32 18:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Robert H. Garff[]

Nominator's comments: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Utah TJMSmith (talk) 02:24, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Seems to meet the requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 05:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Weak support - plenty of local coverage and an AP press hit. Article is well cited. Not much coverage outside of Utah, so I'm torn as to notability. -- Javawizard (talk) 05:53, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:08, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joe Diffie[]

 -Thechased (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• COVID related death --Masem (t) 20:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks good. Article has GA status. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 20:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Meets criteria per above, however discography could use referencing. - Indefensible (talk) 21:05, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support per the comments above. TJMSmith (talk) 03:05, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support LGTM, marked as ready --DannyS712 (talk) 03:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alan Merrill[]

Nominator's comments: American musician. Article has a couple cn tags currently but otherwise should be good, will try to ref or remove as needed. - Indefensible (talk) 19:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• COVID related death --Masem (t) 20:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Addressed cn tags. - Indefensible (talk) 21:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - looks like it is almost ready for a WP:GAN. A discography section might improve the article. TJMSmith (talk) 03:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:02, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Krzysztof Penderecki[]

Nominator's comments: Polish composer and conductor, works have appeared in many modern films such as the Shining and Exorcist. I spotted one CN tag but otherwise well sourced. Masem (t) 15:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Non-COVID related death --Masem (t) 20:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Already a class B/C article. sentausa (talk) 15:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Could use a citation for the paragraph He was an Honorary Member of and for some in the awards list. RD is a little backed up right now so maybe post tomorrow after improvements? Otherwise we can drop Michael Sorkin off the list but I just added it a few minutes ago. Kees08 (Talk) 16:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose needs refs. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Blurb on Principle oppose on quality. He was one of the greatest living composers of classical music at his death. Here is Reuters calling him "one of the world's most celebrated composers;" and this is the Hamburg Philharmonic calling him "one of the greatest living composers of classical music." Similar claims are being made on his obits today. NorthernFalcon (talk) 19:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now on quality as NorthernFalcon wrote above; Oppose blurb. This is the issue that highly described subjects have; the more content there is, the more there is to maintain at the same quality level and therefore the more potential tripwires there are. - Indefensible (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  What I see now: the awards are almost completely referenced (5 or so missing, which could probably be dropped). The use in films is not referenced yet, but all these films have articles, so it shouldn't be too difficult, and I believe whether his music was used in films or not really doesn't make him any greater. The section about the St Luke Passion is little referenced, but it has its own article and doesn't need detailed treatment in the composer's article. What else? - Btw, once upon a time the article had a decent infobox ;) - We faced the same sourcing problems for Jessye Norman, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  Support - Looks good enough now even with a couple cn tags per updated referencing as Gerda Arendt wrote. - Indefensible (talk) 21:15, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose for now. Some work needed to get it up to speed, but should be easy enough to fix before posting. RD ONLY, OPPOSE BLURB. Not a big enough individual to warrant a blurb. (and why the continued obsession to mention IBs? why, oh why, oh why...) - SchroCat (talk) 20:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Throwing my Oppose blurb as nominator. I don't believe he rises to that level based on the NYTimes article. --Masem (t) 20:47, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support – RD only. Not widely known enough in Eng.-speaking world for blurb. – Sca (talk) 21:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support RD Referencing has improved. Spengouli (talk) 22:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support referencing has improved and will improve some more. Very significant composer. Krzysztof Eugeniusz Penderecki (Polish: [ˈkʂɨʂtɔf pɛndɛˈrɛt͡skʲi]; 23 November 1933 – 29 March 2020) was a Polish composer and conductor. Among his best known works are Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima, Symphony No. 3, his St. Luke Passion, Polish Requiem, Anaklasis and Utrenja. Penderecki composed four operas, eight symphonies and other orchestral pieces, a variety of instrumental concertos, choral settings of mainly religious texts, as well as chamber and instrumental works. Levenson, Eric (March 29, 2020). "Krzysztof Penderecki, composer of works in 'The Exorcist' and 'The Shining,' dies at 86". CNN. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Well referenced. The "Use in film" section would benefit from more citations, but it is uncontroversial content. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:09, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks like the cn tags were addressed. Great work. TJMSmith (talk) 02:53, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• This one is Ready to go, I think. Hopefully will be posted soon. - Indefensible (talk) 05:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted --qedk (t 心 c) 07:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

March 28[]

(Posted) RD: David Schramm[]

Nominator's comments: Best known for role on the TV show Wings but also a theater actor. No cause of death given. Article in surprising decent shape. Masem (t) 23:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Article is well sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 02:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Meets the requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 05:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:59, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jan Howard[]

Nominator's comments: American musician and author. - Indefensible (talk) 04:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Excellent article. It is nominated for GA status. TJMSmith (talk) 04:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 08:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:59, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Thomas Schäfer[]

Article: Thomas Schäfer (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): DW (German)
Crs:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk • give cr)
• Created by BabbaQ (talk • give cr)
• Updated by Gerda Arendt (talk • give cr) and Williamsdoritios (talk • give cr)

Nominator's comments: German politician, Minister of Finance for Hesse - Indefensible (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - New article but looks like the content is sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 04:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - It was sickening to work on, and I'd prefer to not see it in the news. I just tried to make the article decent. Thank you for more, Williamsdoritos. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Per improvements made. RD ready.BabbaQ (talk) 08:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support getting English-language coverage and article is satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:00, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  I just try to imagine I was his daughter ... - also: he gets all the press coverage anyway, but how about Huisgen (below)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  sigh, after three days of dealing with four recent deaths, I wanted to write about a soprano today, on Sunday. Instead, more work to make this halfway decent. What do we know yet?? - Read Jessye Norman today, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  sigh more, will you please help me watch the article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:20, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  sigh even more: Krzysztof Penderecki --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tom Coburn[]

Nominator's comments: He was indeed a public figure that has been revered by many Americans. RekishiEJ (talk) 15:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose much unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The article does contain unsourced statements, yet it is not the reason why Tom Coburn should not be mentioned in "Recent deaths" section.--RekishiEJ (talk) 16:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC) Replaced the first "not" with "contain" 17:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Oppose on the contrary- it is a valid reason why he should be omitted, and the sole matter of concern in a RD nom. GreatCaesarsGhost 19:27, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Significance is not an issue, but does not meet quality requirements yet, per The Rambling Man's comment. - Indefensible (talk) 17:08, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support pbp 18:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – Since when is 'Sputnik' considered a reliable source? – Sca (talk) 22:01, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The article is missing citations in several locations. TJMSmith (talk) 03:02, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support The missing citations have been resolved. Spengouli (talk) 18:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)(
• Posted in spite of the MOS:LEADCITE problem the sourcing has introduced. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Looks good now per above. Added updaters. - Indefensible (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Azam Khan (squash player)[]

March 27[]

(Posted) RD: Robert Campbell[]

Nominator's comments: American politician - Indefensible (talk) 04:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support short but sufficient article. TJMSmith (talk) 04:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Ready for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 08:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Weak support getting a bit of local coverage but not much more. Article is barely adequate. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joseph Lowery[]

Nominator's comments: Civil rights leader – Muboshgu (talk) 17:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Has a couple cn tags which should be addressed, however otherwise looks good and the guidelines say 1-2 cn tags may be ok. - Indefensible (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose while citations are still required. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support, CN tags have been cleaned and references added. Spengouli (talk) 20:03, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Looks good, thank you for addressing the cn tags. - Indefensible (talk) 20:20, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - looks good enough for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 00:47, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 03:46, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Daniel Azulay[]

Nominator's comments: Brazilian artist. - Indefensible (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose basically an orphan and not seeing it "in the news". The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:40, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It does seem to be reported in local Portuguese news, would say similar standard as Naomi Munakata. - Indefensible (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
    • The Rambling Man It was extensively reported in Brazil, but I don't know if the article is good enough for the main page.--SirEdimon (talk) 05:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Succinct article. Everything seems sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 03:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:55, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Les Hunter[]

Nominator's comments: American professional athlete, restaurant owner, and community college teacher. - Indefensible (talk) 06:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 10:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Sufficient quality and properly sourced.—Bagumba (talk) 15:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Good to go.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:48, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) North Macedonia joins NATO[]

Nominator's comments: First enlargement of NATO for years. A bit of non-COVID news for a change. EternalNomad (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support Article looks in good shape --Masem (t) 21:45, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support although I would just call it NATO and not expand, the common name is NATO and I'm certain the majority of our "overseas" readers would understand that and not the expanded variant. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 21:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

This. NATO, NASA, EU, UK, US, are the abbreviations I'd expect any English reader should be familiar with (though linking will always help). --Masem (t) 21:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support, have abbreviated NATO in the blurb. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Although there are some SEAOFBLUE issues in the new blurb, perhaps someone can take care of that. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support as per The Rambling Man Joseywales1961 (talk) 22:35, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine, decent news story. Kingsif (talk) 22:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Can someone add a ref for the first part of the History section? Would think should be easy enough to find for the 1995 and 1999 items mentioned. - Indefensible (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support article looks good to go for posting. important news.BabbaQ (talk) 23:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support, I have NOTHING against Slovak Prime Minister Mr. Igor, but his face has been here for long, can't we replace it?. If not, no problem. ^_^ --CoryGlee (talk) 23:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Just a comment on the blurb, I'm not sure when we are counting the negotiation process as starting, if we say it started in July 2018 with the invitation or back in 2008 and earlier, then maybe the blurb should say "multi-year negotiation process."-- Patrick, _oѺ^∞ 23:42, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• @Amakuru: I think I will change the image to File:History of NATO enlargement.svg as it seems more relevant (includes North Macedonia in 2020), does anyone have a problem? --qedk (t 心 c) 09:26, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@QEDK: Generally, purely decorative elements like flags or logos are not posted. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Fine by me to change it. A map also showing North America would be better IMHO, as it is misleading to focus only on Europe, but I don't have strong opinions either way.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:10, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

This is one of those cases where if we were tired of looking at that politician we should drag up and image from RD. The Macedonian flag doesn't offer any value for our readers, and a highlighted map of NATO wouldn't do great condensed into the box. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:16, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The guidelines you linked above also suggest no maps, as they are hard to discern at small size. Stephen 11:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Stephen, Amakuru, and LaserLegs: I don't see any options which are not maps (treaty parties, enlargement, NATO members) or flags (NATO/North Macedonia), all listed in order of decreasing relevance. Both flags and the enlargement map are protected and good-to-go. --qedk (t 心 c) 15:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

So then put Matovic back or get a suitable image from RD. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The flag does seem inappropriate. It conveys no real visual information. (Also, my first association was the WWII Japanese war flag.)
– Sca (talk) 17:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Would it not be appropriate to use the NATO flag or map of member states (with North Macedonia now included)? The image is now back to Mr. Matovič, but his news item was a week ago already and the nomination is not even on the page anymore. - Indefensible (talk) 04:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't think File:History of NATO enlargement.svg works in a small size. If there is clear map of NATO members (without all the different colours which will be hard to interpret without the key) that would be good. Otherwise I have added Joseph Lowery to the protected list. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

A NATO map without Canada and the United States is not a NATO map. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:18, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Any comments on this one? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:21, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Not sure what country that is in South America? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC))

French Guiana --LaserLegs (talk) 12:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Added two maps to WP:CMP the one linked above with all countries, which has weird lines (I'm guessing it links it to the mainland, but it just looks bad). The other one is the North Macedonia highlighted among NATO countries (leaves out French Guiana but looks better imo) which I've placed right below it. --qedk (t 心 c) 13:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks qedk. I have added the green map. Improvements to the caption welcomed though — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:05, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Andy[]

Nominator's comments: Jamaican musician, Order of Distinction member. - Indefensible (talk) 16:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 21:42, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - RD ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Marked ready. – Ammarpad (talk) 04:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 05:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Boris Johnson has tested positive for coronavirus[]

March 26[]

(Posted) RD: Princess Maria Teresa of Bourbon-Parma[]

Nominator's comments: First royal to die from COVID-19, needs a bunch of work, she was quite notably outspoken but until recently her name redirected to her father's article. Kingsif (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - Article is currently a stub that has a speedy deletion banner. - Indefensible (talk) 19:01, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose tagged stub. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:16, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment updated with translations from the French sister project. robertsky (talk) 21:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Article still could use work and may not meet the threshold of RD guidelines, but good work updating the article. - Indefensible (talk) 21:20, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – Stubby. (And "whilst" – ??) – Sca (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Article is much improved. TJMSmith (talk) 22:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Good enough for RD now.BabbaQ (talk) 23:10, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Marked as ready per above. Moved from the 28th to the 26th, as that is the correct date. - Indefensible (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - ready to post MurielMary (talk) 05:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posting. --Tone 10:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Michael Sorkin[]

Nominator's comments: Important architect, urban planner. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:47, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Has a couple cn tags which should be addressed, in particular the orange banner should be resolved. Looks good otherwise. - Indefensible (talk) 19:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Fixed 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Support per above fixes. - Indefensible (talk) 21:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose referencing work required. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I know your default position, but article has now been referenced. User:The Rambling Man what is it you think is presently lacking? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

What's happening about the dubiously "useful" "Reporting, selected" section? Most of it is unrerferenced, and I'm not convinced I can see any value in this, do we normally list a "selected" (by whom, what criteria? One suspects, just whatever someone kind find...) list of mentions of someone? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

User:The Rambling Man Per your suggestion, I removed the section. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Support looks fine. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Posted though technically stale, due to four from the 27th and four from the 28th. Kees08 (Talk) 16:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rolf Huisgen[]

Nominator's comments: Chemist with a reaction named after him, 99. - Expanded stub. Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Meets the requirements, good work updating the article Gerda Arendt. - Indefensible (talk) 16:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Balázs Csákabonyi[]

Nominator's comments: Hungarian lawyer/politician, High Commissioner of the Hungarian Bar Association. - Indefensible (talk) 16:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Weak support basically an orphan, and not seeing much news coverage. What's there is ok. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:25, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:18, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Naomi Munakata[]

Nominator's comments: Great woman, chorale conductor. VOVID-19 (my first) - The article was created in en and other languages the day she died. I could add recordings on demand, if needed. (See AllMusic link.) - I wonder if victims of the virus might appear within the box, if only to have some change there from time to time. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Support per nom. Short, but with statements supported with references. robertsky (talk) 15:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• support: short but sufficient.BabbaQ (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - seems to meet minimum requirements for RD posting. - Indefensible (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Posted. El_C 18:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Jimmy Wynn[]

(Posted) RD: John O'Leary (golfer)[]

Nominator's comments: Some sourcing still needed in places DannyS712 (talk) 06:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Now reasonably sourced DannyS712 (talk) 06:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support as per nominator. short but decent article Joseywales1961 (talk) 10:02, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Weak support one citation missing as far as I can tell. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now - lead needs to be a bit longer, and the lead says he played in the 1975 Ryder Cup while the body says he missed it.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

  @Amakuru: Can you take another look? DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

  @DannyS712: it's already been posted anyway, but for the record it's all good now. Nice work.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Article seems to meet the requirements, the 1975 Ryder Cup detail per Amakuru's comment above seems to be consistent now. - Indefensible (talk) 15:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - It is RD ready.BabbaQ (talk) 23:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted --qedk (t 心 c) 07:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

  @QEDK: Would you mind posting the cr bit on my talk, so that I can claim this for the wikicup (unless not doing so was intentional)? DannyS712 (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

  @DannyS712: New to the posting side of ITN. Sent! --qedk (t 心 c) 13:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Curly Neal[]

Nominator's comments: Short but should be reasonably sourced. Masem (t) 01:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Weak support one cn there, otherwise alright. Bit slim considering he was a Globetrotter, but meh. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:24, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD  — Amakuru (talk) 13:35, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Michel Hidalgo[]

(Stale) RD: Mark Blum[]

(Closed) Nicolás Maduro indicted for drug trafficking[]

(Closed) Guilty plea in Christchurch mosque shootings[]

March 25[]

(Stale) RD: William Bartholomay[]

Nominator's comments: American businessman, owner of the Atlanta Braves. - Indefensible (talk) 16:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Harry Aarts[]

Nominator's comments: Dutch politician, Order of the Netherlands Lion. Article is short but seems referenced and may meet the requirements for RD posting. - Indefensible (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• support - indeed short but sufficient for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 15:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - I agree with BabbaQ. Looks well sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 03:59, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• I came to post but this death is now older than the latest on the template, sorry. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jennifer Bate[]

Nominator's comments: Concert organist - one of the first ever - who recordined all Messiaen guided by the composer. - Expanded a bit. There could be much more based on the present sources, but not by me right no, with two more RD waiting, and a GA review under way, + need fresh air. Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support Looks ready to me. P-K3 (talk) 12:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Weak support given the length of the career, it's a bit lacking, but what's there seems satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

  I added some bits especially for you, but believe anybody could have done the same, - it's all in English, while I feel more needed when sources are in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - good for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted --qedk (t 心 c) 20:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Kurti cabinet[]

Article: Kurti cabinet (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Kosovo's Kurti cabinet is voted out of power over disagreements over the handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
Alternative blurb: ​Prime Minister of Kosovo Albin Kurti is voted out of office because of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
Alternative blurb II: ​Prime Minister of Kosovo Albin Kurti is removed from office after the Assembly of Kosovo passes a motion of no confidence.
News source(s): [2]
Crs:

• Nominated by Jon698 (talk • give cr)

 —Jon698 (talk) 15:17, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Government collapse due to COVID-19 pandemic. Notable development. (Also proposing ALT1) Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 17:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose because Kosovo lacks broad recognition as a state, and because the article is stubby. Kurti's replacement may qualify as ITN/R --LaserLegs (talk) 18:03, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  @LaserLegs: Since when was "broad recognition" required for ITN? Surely we'd post a story about Taiwan, a non-UN member recognized by 7.3% of members, so why not Kosovo which is recognized by a majority 50.3% of members? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 19:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

We posted the Taiwanese which I opposed as well though the article was much better. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

The 2 examples are not exactly the same because in the Taiwanese case there was an election of a new government, in this case there is not yet a replacement government and the government which was voted out continues in a caretaker role. However, not necessarily against this being posted, as the blurb can be updated as appropriate later. - Indefensible (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support it's a self-governing region which suffices. Banedon (talk) 21:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - it is notable with a government that falls due to the coronavirus.BabbaQ (talk) 22:46, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • This is a grey area that arguably could be covered by and is redundant with the coronavirus banner though. - Indefensible (talk) 22:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
    • If needed, we could post this story without mentioning the pandemic. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 23:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – The Kurti cabinet continues as a caretaker govt., pending its replacement. – Sca (talk) 13:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• So you'd rather add it then...? The Prime Minister will resign regardless, like when Theresa May resigned (which we posted) but was still "acting" PM for a while. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 15:40, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment I would be very wary of directly connecting the COVID-19 situation with the govt's resignation. Sources in the article making such a claim also detail a long history of antipathy between the PM and President. This could very well be run of the mill politicking. Absent the COVID-19 angle, the time to re-nom this would be on the formation of a new government.130.233.2.33 (talk) 14:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• @130.233.2.33: Just wondering, but do you have an account and just forgot to log in? – Jon698 (talk) 14:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Added ALT2 with this in mind. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 15:40, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Per the ip comment can the blurb be changed to "Kosovo's Kurti cabinet loses a vote of no confidence after sacking a minister over disagreements on the handling of the coronavirus pandemic." – Jon698 (talk) 14:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Albin Kurti has not been updated! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• @MSGJ: I updated it a few hours ago. – Jon698 (talk) 3:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mike Stratton[]

Nominator's comments: Six-time AFL All-Star and AFL All-Time Second Team selection. —Bagumba (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

• Weak support very brief for such an "all star". The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment The article is currently 1800 bytes of readable prose, which is above the 1500 minimum that DYK requires. ITNC does not have any formal size minimums.—Bagumba (talk) 23:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment "AFL" is a very unclear term. Here in Wikipedia it links to a disambiguation page with around 35 entries! This Australian initially wondered who this footy star was that he's never heard of, and would never use such an abbreviation in a global encyclopaedia. HiLo48 (talk) 23:47, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  @HiLo48: I'm admittedly guilty of not following MOS in my nomination comment, though the comment field is optional for a nom, and the article does introduce AFL properly (and I did at least link it above). Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 04:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Weak support - from what I can see everything seems legit and RD eligible.BabbaQ (talk) 23:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment After a bit more expansion, readble prose size is now about 2,400 bytes.—Bagumba (talk) 13:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support looks alright. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:35, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD  — Amakuru (talk) 13:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Robert Alan Levinson[]

 Count Iblis (talk) 23:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Just noting family has stated they consider him dead as of this date, despite no evidence of body/etc. so this is a reasonable date to post. --Masem (t) 23:52, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support. I was just about to nominate this; it's clearly notable (three presidential administrations worked to find him) and has been making its way through the major news outlets. JOEBRO64 01:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support 25 March was the death announced date, which is what we work on. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:16, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Quite possibly not recent at all, less possibly not dead at all. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  And the article is about his disappearance, not him. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

So if it's not a BDP, it technically doesn't have to be on Margaret Thatcher's level for a blurb. But it still has to be deadlier than the Zagreb earthquake. Or not related to you-know-what. Or possibly on a website's frontpage. Or maybe get a certain ratio of votes. Or...? InedibleHulk (talk) 13:13, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I mean, he was no Nelson Mandela.--WaltCip (talk) 14:42, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - RD is only used for people who are individually notable enough to have their own article, rather than an article about the political events surrounding them.--WaltCip (talk) 12:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Opppse Valid point that there is almost zero about Levinson as a person in this article outside his profession related to his disappearance, so fails the basis of RD. --Masem (t) 13:22, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support per TheJoebro64 and Joseph2302. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 17:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - Article is not biographical per WaltCip, and the announcement of his death does not mean his death is recent nor that he is actually dead per InedibleHulk. - Indefensible (talk) 22:30, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It has been the case in the past that when we have a notable person prior to their disappearance that is then declared dead (either due to certain laws or the familys consideration) then we have posted their RD as that date here. I forget who that case was in the past but we have respect this factor. That means the death could have been years in the past, as long as the official declaration of death is within the "freshness" for ITN --Masem (t) 22:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Ganz typisch. – Sca (talk) 22:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) 2020 India coronavirus lockdown[]

March 24[]

(Posted) RD: Anatoliy Mokrenko[]

Nominator's comments: Ukrainian baritone opera singer, who appeared in films, later also director of the National Opera, taking the company to France, other Europe and Asia. - Prompted by a red link, I collected from puzzle pieces, - additions welcome, hopefully by someone who speaks the language. Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD  — Amakuru (talk) 22:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alfred Gomolka[]

Nominator's comments: EU politician, died on this date Joseph2302 (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support - I see no major issues. Good to go.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support, excellent expansion, and so lovely that I don't have to do it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• This has been marked as ready for 10 hours, please can an admin promote it? Joseph2302 (talk) 10:12, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  Still ready 17.5 hours later. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man: Posted --qedk (t 心 c) 18:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: William Dufris[]

Nominator's comments: Notable VA, Bob the Builder. Major sourcing issues. Masem (t) 19:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose major sourcing issues need to be resolved. Can we fix it? Probably someone can. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Stuart Gordon[]

Nominator's comments: Director known for a few cult classics (Re-Animator, Honey I Shrunk the Kids); some sourcing problems though with article. Masem (t) 13:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - Needs referencing improvement. - Indefensible (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose filmography needs work. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted to RD) RD: Bill Rieflin[]

Nominator's comments: Drummer associated with multiple bands including REM and King Crimson, died after battle w/ cancer. Typical sourcing problems but looks like a few working on it. Masem (t) 00:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Masem, Should be added. :/ </3 ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

I thought I added you to updater... it says it there ...--Masem (t) 00:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Masem, I did mean, "I should be added" I meant, "This entry should be added to 'In the News', also, I am sad because Bill Reiflin is dead". Pardon me for being unclear. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Ahh, sorry. Yes, obviously definitely to be added (and has been to you and others getting it up to quality). --Masem (t) 18:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose somewhat perversely, the discog looks fine but the prose needs multiple citations. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Working through those at the moment, esp. the bits around Swans and Ministry. Damn. The bad news keeps a comin'! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Support good work all. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support All cited now. Black Kite (talk) 09:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Note to posting admin: I added myself to the updaters, but User:Lugnuts should be in there too, however the template only has 3 slots! Black Kite (talk) 09:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support well sourced now. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support looks ok to go. robertsky (talk) 13:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 14:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Terrence McNally[]

Nominator's comments: Tony Award & Emmy Award-winning playwright, wrote the book for Ragtime, died from complications due to Coronavirus TenorTwelve (talk) 21:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment there are two orange tags in the article, will change to Support if these are addressed Joseywales1961 (talk) 22:18, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Are Huff and People considered RSs? – Sca (talk) 22:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I switched it to NYTimes and CNN per your request -TenorTwelve (talk) 23:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Huff is "debatable" and People is good for BLP - see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources Joseywales1961 (talk) 23:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Huffington Post is well established as a reliable source; People would actually be questionable to a degree as it gets a bit more into celebrity gossip. --Masem (t) 23:58, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose multiple obvious issues. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - Not ready yet. Mostly looks good but a couple sections need additional referencing to remove their orange banners. - Indefensible (talk) 18:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - Overall, the article is well sourced. Only the writing section has a tag left. Everything in the section is sourced or hyperlinked to an article. TJMSmith (talk) 04:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Still one orange tag, and I'm afraid this nomination is now stale — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:08, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Reposted) 2020 Summer Olympics postponed[]

Nominator's comments: Pretty major sporting event, worldwide. I remember someone saying that this should be the only event that should be ITN if postponed. --Rockin 19:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

• Wait only because (after searching for confirmation) this is one IOC member saying this. Wait until the official IOC statement. --Masem (t) 19:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • To be clear, as from the BBC story [5] "The International Olympic Committee has given itself four weeks to decide on the future of this summer's Games, but veteran IOC member Pound says a decision will be announced soon. "It will come in stages," he said. "We will postpone this and begin to deal with all the ramifications of moving this, which are immense." So just wait for the "stage 1" announcement. --Masem (t) 19:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Wait for a statement from the IOC, this is just one member(who may certainly know, but doesn't speak for the group as a whole). 331dot (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Wait as premature per Masem and 331dot. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Just close this now It obviously hasn't happened yet. HiLo48 (talk) 23:19, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Reopened. Now confirmed per sources above. Black Kite (talk) 12:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Japan'sPM confirmed it. Starzoner (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment - Now it's official. Let's get it up there. Quick, quick, hurry!!--WaltCip (talk) 12:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• I've written a present-tense blurb that avoids calling it the 2020 Games, as this will now be the 2021 Games. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 12:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Article has not been updated sufficiently as of right now. Fix the article and its lead to actually reflect the latest information, and then I can support this. --Jayron32 12:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support but only if the blurb also links to Dick Pound for some cheap laughs in these bleak times. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 13:03, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - I've made an request to update updated the page. Kingsif (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Given the official confirmation I have gone ahead and lowered the protection level to semi-PP x 48 hrs. The article can now be ed by anyone who is auto-confirmed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 13:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I don't think the IOC have said anything yet but obviously the Japan PM announcing it is good enough. This is the one sporting postponement that is worth posting in my view. Once the article has been updated take this as a support.-- P-K3 (talk) 13:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. --Tone 13:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment The "2020 Summer Olympics" should be bolded --Rockin 13:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Pull While I support in principle, far too many of the tables are poorly referenced. I would also note that there does not appear to have been a discernible consensus to post this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 13:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Pull per aO. Also questioning the "consensus"—excluding the nom, only two support votes, Tone?!? ——SN54129 13:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Official statement. Yes, this was posted too early but there's no question now. --Masem (t) 13:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Pull until consensus is reached per aO and Serial. Rockin 14:07, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Keep/Support. Fix the tables or remove them for the time being. The ITN process makes it take too long to pull a blurb and then have it reposted. Though consensus was weak, there's no doubt that this was going to be significant enough to post. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 14:12, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Pull until quality is fixed for BOTH of the problems noted above (sufficient update, referencing issues) UNLESS Nice4What (talk · contribs) or someone else fixes those problems before an admin gets to removing it. This should not have been posted in the state it was in. --Jayron32 14:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Pulled per the above comments. Consensus does not appear to be reached yet and some referencing improvements needed.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – For whenever the article issues are addressed, I'd just like to go on record saying the alt-blurb seems more appropriate. The format of the initial blurb doesn't seem to mesh well with other ITN headlines. Master of Time (talk) 14:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Re-post - I hate the practice of posting then pulling events of paramount importance. Let's post it and then improve it.--WaltCip (talk) 14:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Main page is too important to post sub-par articles and expect them to get improved. And Olympics - which were still 3months out - are not of "paramount importance" at this point. --Masem (t) 14:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Agree, however this line of logic also suggests that non-emphasized articles in a blurb should meet the same frontpage standards in my opinion. For example, currently Prime Minister of Slovakia is up but is essentially unreferenced. - Indefensible (talk) 18:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Major news, even though it's corona related it still an important announcement.  Nixinova   T   C   19:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose/Proposal - The article needs significant updating yet. Alternatively, Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on the 2020 Summer Olympics, which is better maintained, could be featured here.Renerpho (talk) 19:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Added alt2 The relation of the postponement to the pandemic should be highlighted. Clarified one year to 2021. Official title of event used in IOC statement is "Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games." Sleath56 (talk) 20:05, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Re-post per WaltCip. Banedon (talk) 22:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose this is just part of the fallout of Covid-19 pandemic which is already conspicuously displayed. And this is not unexpected, many, many things much more important have been canceled, we need not start listing them. In fact, going ahead to do it, might be the unexpected thing here, and I believe if that were the case, MS sources would have given it much more attention than they do now. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Re-post article is good enough now. Although it's caused by coronavirus, this is a major world event, this postponement was worldwide ramifications. This is the only postponement therefore that I believe it's worth adding to ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:52, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose re-posting – It was a major story, but as a one-time announcement it will have a short shelf-life in the news. Further, as noted in the past, such Pushmi-Pullyu waffling comes across as highly amateurish. – Sca (talk) 13:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support alt1. This is the only sporting event for which I think a coronavirus-related delay is worth posting. The article is updated and of reasonable quality. It's huge and could do with a copy, but that shouldn't preclude posting. Modest Genius ^talk 14:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support either of alt1, alt2. The Tokyo Olympics is the only coronavirus cancellation/postponement story worth posting as a blurb. Olympics is a worldwide event with unique significance for the humanity, and in the past the Olympic Games were only cancelled because of war. In the case of Tokyo 2020 Olympics, the games could have easily been cancelled rather than postponed, so the current outcome was not inevitable. Nsk92 (talk) 19:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support reposting, per Modest Genius. Hrodvarsson (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – Getting stale. – Sca (talk) 13:39, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support the reposting now as per Nsk92 before it becomes old news Joseywales1961 (talk) 14:53, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Ammarpad: nowadays, notability is more likely to be found in something actually going ahead. And, since events in the coronasphere are so fast moving, I'm afraid this must be deemed stale by now. ——SN54129 14:58, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Stale. – Sca (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support per Nsk92. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 15:54, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Not stale. This is newer than than the newest entry about the Slovakian PM. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

A week-old announcement certainly is very stale indeed. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

As someone who's in ITN for years knows, that's not how we suggest staleness. Don't be dishonest about this. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

ZZZzzzz....Sca (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Reposted. Item is less stale than the item it replaced. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I guess the yawning monkey loses this time. ;-) WaltCip (talk) 13:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

In terms of news, this is silly. – Sca (talk) 13:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• 'Suggest close as this has been reposted. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Remove I suggest removing this as it is just fallout of the Coronavirus pandemic. Noah^Talk 13:48, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Remove. @MSGJ: WTF? This is long-since stale, and clearly no consensus per the above discussion to re-post.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:15, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  It is not the case that it is “stale”, which has a specific meaning at ITN; the announcement was on 24 March, and Matovic became Slovakia’s PM on 21 March. P-K3 (talk) 18:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Boo! Both virus news and old news, just like WrestleMania. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• I am afraid, there's no consensus to repost this, Martin. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Keep it's in the news, it's updated, the referencing is good enough, and the Olympics is a major multi-day, multi-sport, multi-nation event. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

It used to be. But this year, it's nothing, the absence of all those things. Not even still watchable online, like bigger events will be. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I smell a rat. – Sca (talk) 16:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Remove no consensus, and it's definitely not in the news. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: at the time of posting I judged there was consensus, because the only objections centred around the quality of the article which seems to have been addressed. The comments about being stale are curious, because if this is pulled it will be replaced by an even older item ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Things just get curiouser and curiouser.
(And old news just gets staler and staler.)
– Sca (talk) 22:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Everything we post is stale, and if this is pulled something even older will get dragged up in its place. One COVID-19 story slipped past the gigantic unnecessary banner -- just let it go. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Pull, then repost, then pull again - We can do this all day -- or even better yet, why not let's just close this discussion and finally put a lid on this farce.--WaltCip (talk) 13:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. Sca has provided and captioned three solid animal pictures. Should be clear enough to anyone what happened here. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

You must admit that's much more economical in terms of cyberwork than posting 3,000 words of argument. – Sca (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

• Pull we have a big ol' banner for virus news, we don't need a separate article about something that isn't happening. Pointless entry, given the circumstances. - SchroCat (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Manu Dibango[]

Nominator's comments: Famous saxophone player, died today (from Covid-19). Article has been updated extensivley by a number of ors already (not me!), not clear who best to give cr. Fram (talk) 10:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose several citations needed and as usual, an unreferenced discography, worse than normal because many items not even linked. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support Very well known musician, leader in his genre and region. --Varavour (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - needs referencing improvement still as The Rambling Man wrote. - Indefensible (talk) 17:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Albert Uderzo[]

Nominator's comments: Recent death of one of the most popular comics artists ever, artist (for over 50 years) and writer (for more than 20 years) of Asterix, known worldwide. Perhaps not quite at blurb level (though I wouldn't oppose one), but of the 10 most translated french language authors, he was the only one who still lived (see here). Fram (talk) 10:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose not seeing any prose update and some referencing required. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Some prose update has been added since. Which parts need referencing? Fram (talk) 12:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
    • When I reviewed, there were at least three [citation needed] templates. Now they've gone but most of the "Family" section is unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 15:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
      • TRM, the family section is now fully referenced! Fram (talk) 11:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support. CNN, Hollywood Reporter, The Times, AP, The Guardian, Independent, BBC, DW, Variety, RT, Euronews. There should be enough content in there for a blurb. If not, definitely belongs in RD. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:8458:7FA8:68FF:52B7 (talk) 14:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

  The blurb criteria is here, if that helps. Kees08 (Talk) 16:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose til the big orange tag is fixed; looks like unreferenced family, awards, and some other information. Not a ton more work, close-ish. Haven't seen a good enough argument for a blurb yet. Kees08 (Talk) 16:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• I'd make an argument for a blurb when the article's up to scratch - if we're looking at the top of one's field, then storytelling comics (rather than the superhero-y/serial ones) is a field dominated by Asterix around the world. Kingsif (talk) 19:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Storytelling was Goscinny's field, though. Asterix and Obelix are pretty iconic designs, but the dog and wizard are pretty forgettable. Compare to the dozens more memorable toons Matt Groening drew, for perspective on world dominance. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support, once concerns about content are resolved. KConWiki (talk) 21:26, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• I added a few {{cn}}s, but this is close to being ready. Fix those and I will support RD. Oppose blurb as 'number of translations of a French author' is a very narrow field to be top of; not at the Thatcher/Mandela level. Modest Genius ^talk 12:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I found reliable sources for two of these, and removed the third one which was simply incorrect (good tagging!). I think all "cn"s are removed now. As for the blurb: the "translations" was more a measure of popularity around the world than the sole claim to fame: having created a series which sold 370 million copies and spawned a dozen movies and so on (and has its own attraction park), and being arguably the last truly great artist from the heyday of European comics (i.e. before the advent of graphic novels and more adult comics) and one of the few who transcended their "local" fanbase and became universally known (like Hergé or Peyo or Morris), are the real claims to fame. But it's a borderline case for a blurb: when they were all still alive (those few, and Franquin, Jacobs, Vandersteen, ...), he probably would not have made the top 5 of most important ones; he just outlived them all. Fram (talk) 13:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Looks good, I now support RD. I agree Uderzo was very successful and well known; I enjoyed his work. I'm just one of the ITN contributors who think the threshold for a death blurb must be very high, because we have the RD section where most deaths can be featured. Modest Genius ^talk 14:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - However, the awards currently look unreferenced. - Indefensible (talk) 18:52, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support - looks well-referenced now, also very prominent as the author of an iconic comic book series. --Clibenfoart (talk) 14:08, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Support, looks good now which I didn't expect to happen when I first saw it, - thank you all who helped. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now still a couple of cites needed in the with Goscinny section, and awards. Good to go after that.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I think I have sourced everything now (and added a few awards at the same time). I hope we are finally done now and this can get some time on the main page after all... Fram (talk) 09:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
• Am I allowed to mark my own nomination as "ready"? Considering all the supports, and the opposes which just waited until the article was ready, I hope this may be considered "ready" before it is stale and falls of this page. If I stepped out of line, feel free to remove the "ready" indicator. Fram (talk) 14:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I agree, this is ready. Modest Genius ^talk 17:55, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Support This is beyond ready. Why hasn't it been posted yet? Manish2542 (talk) 18:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

• Posting. --Tone 18:36, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

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