Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

This page provides a forum for ors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen by Vincent van Gogh
The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen

How to nominate an item[]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting ors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  3. accuse other ors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  4. comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)
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March 31[]

Disasters and accidents
Health and environment

International relations

Sports

(Ready) RD: James T. Goodrich[]

Article: James T. Goodrich (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [1]
Crs:

Article updated

 Natureium (talk) 15:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I removed the uncited statement. TJMSmith (talk) 18:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

March 30[]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Joachim Yhombi-Opango[]

Article: Joachim Yhombi-Opango (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Le Figaro (French)
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Congolese president & prime minister. COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 02:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Indefensible! TJMSmith (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lorena Borjas[]

Article: Lorena Borjas (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Advocate
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Mexican/American transgender rights activist. COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 02:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Arianne Caoili[]

Article: Arianne Caoili (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Public Radio of Armenia, chess24
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Filipino/Australian Chess Woman International Master. - Indefensible (talk) 02:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Viktor Orbán rule by decree in Hungary[]

Article: Viktor Orbán (talk, history)
Blurb: Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is authorized by parliament to rule by decree indefinitely
Alternative blurb: Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is authorized by parliament to rule by decree indefinitely
News source(s): CNN, Politico, DW, Washington Post, Business Insider
Crs:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Related to the coronavirus pandemic, but is more connected to the general shift towards authoritarianism under Orbán. A very significant focal point in that regard, and will have profound impacts on Hungarian politics. Articles needs updating and check for quality. ― Hebsen (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Please do not... "oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." --LaserLegs (talk) 14:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Going to the infallible rule book again, are we? Use your head. The item is of scant interest to a majority of Eng.-lang. readers, esp. in the current news environment. – Sca (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
How did you make that determination? 331dot (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
( conflict) I used my head. It's chock full of empirical guidance. – Sca (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Did you survey all English speakers in the world? I wasn't called. Seriously, what was your guidance? 331dot (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
AUT TACE AUT LOQUERE MELIORA SILENTIO.Sca (talk) 15:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen[]

Proposed image
Article: The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (talk, history)
Blurb: Vincent van Gogh's painting The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (pictured) is stolen from the Singer Laren museum in the Netherlands.
Alternative blurb: The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen (pictured), a painting by Vincent van Gogh, is stolen in the Netherlands.
News source(s): (Artnet news), AP, BBC, Reuters, DW (Eng.)
Crs:

Both articles updated

 Mjroots (talk) 16:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

RD: Hau Pei-tsun[]

Article: Hau Pei-tsun (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Crs:

 Ythlev (talk) 08:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

March 29[]

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Francis Rapp[]

Article: Francis Rapp (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): DNA.fr, Archyde
Crs:

Nominator's comments: French historian, Knight of the Legion of Honour. Died from COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 20:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Philip Warren Anderson[]

Article: Philip Warren Anderson (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Santa Fe Institute, Physics World
Crs:

Nominator's comments: American physicist, Nobel laureate. - Indefensible (talk) 17:54, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

RD: Ken Shimura[]

Article: Ken Shimura (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Variety
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Japanese comedian. COVID related. Article needs several sourcing fixes. Masem (t) 05:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

RD: Isaac Robinson[]

Article: Isaac Robinson (politician) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Crain's Detroit, SFGate
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Suspected COVID-19 death DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Article is short but well referenced DannyS712 (talk) 03:37, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Robert H. Garff[]

Article: Robert H. Garff (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): KUTV
Crs:

Nominator's comments: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Utah TJMSmith (talk) 02:24, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joe Diffie[]

Article: Joe Diffie (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): USA Today
Crs:

 -Thechased (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alan Merrill[]

Article: Alan Merrill (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BestClassicBands, RockMyWorld
Crs:

Nominator's comments: American musician. Article has a couple cn tags currently but otherwise should be good, will try to ref or remove as needed. - Indefensible (talk) 19:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Krzysztof Penderecki[]

Article: Krzysztof Penderecki (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NYTimes, Guardian, Reuters, DW (Eng.)
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Polish composer and conductor, works have appeared in many modern films such as the Shining and Exorcist. I spotted one CN tag but otherwise well sourced. Masem (t) 15:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

March 28[]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Health and environment
International relations

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: David Schramm[]

Article: David Schramm (actor) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Best known for role on the TV show Wings but also a theater actor. No cause of death given. Article in surprising decent shape. Masem (t) 23:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jan Howard[]

Article: Jan Howard (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Tennessean
Crs:

Nominator's comments: American musician and author. - Indefensible (talk) 04:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Thomas Schäfer[]

Proposed image
Article: Thomas Schäfer (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): DW (German)
Crs:

Nominator's comments: German politician, Minister of Finance for Hesse - Indefensible (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tom Coburn[]

Article: Tom Coburn (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Sputnik
Crs:

Nominator's comments: He was indeed a public figure that has been revered by many Americans. RekishiEJ (talk) 15:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Azam Khan (squash player)[]

Now stale. Black Kite (talk) 21:06, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Azam Khan (squash player) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Geo News
Crs:
Nominator's comments: He won the British Open four times between 1959 and 1962. RekishiEJ (talk) 16:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose one unreferenced "Family" section and one section of "quotes about the subject", not good enough. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
    • The celebrity's importance should be the only judgment whether he should be included in the "Recent deaths" section.--RekishiEJ (talk) 17:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
      • Posting is not determined just by significance but also by article quality. See the guidelines in WP:In the news. - Indefensible (talk) 17:10, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article is missing citations and a Career section. TJMSmith (talk) 03:04, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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March 27[]

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Sports

(Posted) RD: Robert Campbell[]

Article: Robert Campbell (California politician) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): East Bay Times
Crs:

Nominator's comments: American politician - Indefensible (talk) 04:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joseph Lowery[]

Article: Joseph Lowery (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CNN
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Civil rights leader – Muboshgu (talk) 17:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Daniel Azulay[]

Article: Daniel Azulay (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): band.com.br (Portuguese), Globo.com (Portuguese)
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Brazilian artist. - Indefensible (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Les Hunter[]

Article: Les Hunter (basketball) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): ESPN
Crs:

Nominator's comments: American professional athlete, restaurant owner, and community college teacher. - Indefensible (talk) 06:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) North Macedonia joins NATO[]

Article: North Macedonia–NATO relations (talk, history)
Blurb: North Macedonia joins NATO after a year-long negotiations process.
News source(s): DW
Crs:

Nominator's comments: First enlargement of NATO for years. A bit of non-COVID news for a change. EternalNomad (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

This. NATO, NASA, EU, UK, US, are the abbreviations I'd expect any English reader should be familiar with (though linking will always help). --Masem (t) 21:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@QEDK: Generally, purely decorative elements like flags or logos are not posted. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Fine by me to change it. A map also showing North America would be better IMHO, as it is misleading to focus only on Europe, but I don't have strong opinions either way.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:10, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
This is one of those cases where if we were tired of looking at that politician we should drag up and image from RD. The Macedonian flag doesn't offer any value for our readers, and a highlighted map of NATO wouldn't do great condensed into the box. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:16, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
The guidelines you linked above also suggest no maps, as they are hard to discern at small size. Stephen 11:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
@Stephen, Amakuru, and LaserLegs: I don't see any options which are not maps (treaty parties, enlargement, NATO members) or flags (NATO/North Macedonia), all listed in order of decreasing relevance. Both flags and the enlargement map are protected and good-to-go. --qedk (t c) 15:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
So then put Matovic back or get a suitable image from RD. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The flag does seem inappropriate. It conveys no real visual information. (Also, my first association was the WWII Japanese war flag.)
Sca (talk) 17:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Would it not be appropriate to use the NATO flag or map of member states (with North Macedonia now included)? The image is now back to Mr. Matovič, but his news item was a week ago already and the nomination is not even on the page anymore. - Indefensible (talk) 04:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think File:History of NATO enlargement.svg works in a small size. If there is clear map of NATO members (without all the different colours which will be hard to interpret without the key) that would be good. Otherwise I have added Joseph Lowery to the protected list. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
A NATO map without Canada and the United States is not a NATO map. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:18, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Map of NATO countries.png
Location NATO Macedonia.svg

Any comments on this one? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:21, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Not sure what country that is in South America? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC))
French Guiana --LaserLegs (talk) 12:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Added two maps to WP:CMP the one linked above with all countries, which has weird lines (I'm guessing it links it to the mainland, but it just looks bad). The other one is the North Macedonia highlighted among NATO countries (leaves out French Guiana but looks better imo) which I've placed right below it. --qedk (t c) 13:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks qedk. I have added the green map. Improvements to the caption welcomed though — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:05, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Andy[]

Article: Bob Andy (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Loop Jamaica
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Jamaican musician, Order of Distinction member. - Indefensible (talk) 16:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Boris Johnson has tested positive for coronavirus[]

WP:SNOW. No chance.
Sca (talk) 13:36, 27 March 2020 (UTC))
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Articles: Boris Johnson (talk, history) and Coronavirus disease 2019 (talk, history)
Blurb: Boris Johnson has tested positive for coronavirus
News source(s): BBC
Crs:

Both articles need updating
Nominator's comments: While the coronavirus story is an ongoing event, this incident stands out as it involves a prominent head of state who is involved in mitigating the outbreak, which involves taking many measures that should prevent getting infected with this disease. Count Iblis (talk) 11:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose It is somewhat more anecdotal as he is not in a serious condition and will continue working. He is not the only head of government infected and surely there will be more. Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I knew this would end up on ITN/C. Oppose at the moment. Tom Hanks also got COVID-19 but recovered from it. At the moment, this seems to be the rule rather than the exception. It would, of course, be notable if Boris Johnson became incapacitated from the virus.--WaltCip (talk) 11:48, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. If a national leader dies from the disease that might be worth posting, merely catching it is not. Modest Genius talk 11:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WaltCip; nice idea though, an original nom. ——SN54129 11:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WP:SNOW. Is this some kind of a joke? If the disease forces him to resign, then we're going to post his resignation; if it leads to complications and he dies, then we're going to post his death. But the diagnosis with no follow-up or, at least, indication of a long-lasting impact per se is not notable at all.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:12, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Cripes! Crikey! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Support We can't blurb every COVID-19 update but this one seems a bit noteworthy. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
How come? Because it's a head of state?--WaltCip (talk) 12:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Yep, head of a G7 and NATO state specifically. I'm not gonna die on this hill, the update is literally one sentence, but still interesting. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Currently the top blurb in ITN is another PM – Igor Matovič – who is stale news from about 3 weeks ago and attracting very little interest from our readership -- just 10K views yesterday. Boris does better than that on a quiet day and I expect his article will be 1M+ on this news. If ITN keeps running the same stale blurbs then it is irrelevant and not helping anyone. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
    No one has yet stopped you from improving OTHER Wikipedia articles on current events and nominating them, are you? Wikipedia is a volunteer organization that only works because people who care about something fix it all by themselves. Since you want to see new topics in ITN, you are responsible for making that happen. Browbeating other people to do that work for you is a waste of your time. --Jayron32 12:57, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
    I'm afraid this isn't WP:TOP25. If you'd like to replace WP:ITN with WP:TOP25, please raise an RFC to propose such. In the meantime, please do stop complaining about page views, this is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid newspaper. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose currently precisely zero impact. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 13:22, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

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March 26[]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Science and technology

Sports

(Posted) RD: Princess Maria Teresa of Bourbon-Parma[]

Article: Princess Maria Teresa of Bourbon-Parma (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): People
Crs:

Nominator's comments: First royal to die from COVID-19, needs a bunch of work, she was quite notably outspoken but until recently her name redirected to her father's article. Kingsif (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Michael Sorkin[]

Article: Michael Sorkin (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Quito, Anne (March 28, 2020). "Michael Sorkin, architecture's brilliant sage, has died of complications from Covid-19". Quartz – via Yahoo!.Gibson, Eleanor (27 March 2020). "'Fierce and brilliant' architect and critic Michael Sorkin dies of coronavirus". Dezeen.
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Important architect, urban planner. 7&6=thirteen () 18:47, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Fixed 7&6=thirteen () 19:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Support per above fixes. - Indefensible (talk) 21:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I know your default position, but article has now been referenced. User:The Rambling Man what is it you think is presently lacking? 7&6=thirteen () 11:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
What's happening about the dubiously "useful" "Reporting, selected" section? Most of it is unrerferenced, and I'm not convinced I can see any value in this, do we normally list a "selected" (by whom, what criteria? One suspects, just whatever someone kind find...) list of mentions of someone? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
User:The Rambling Man Per your suggestion, I removed the section. 7&6=thirteen () 12:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Support looks fine. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rolf Huisgen[]

Article: Rolf Huisgen (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): chemistryviews.org
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Chemist with a reaction named after him, 99. - Expanded stub. Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Balázs Csákabonyi[]

Article: Balázs Csákabonyi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): kaposvarmost.hu (Hungarian)
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Hungarian lawyer/politician, High Commissioner of the Hungarian Bar Association. - Indefensible (talk) 16:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Naomi Munakata[]

Article: Naomi Munakata (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Folha pt
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Great woman, chorale conductor. VOVID-19 (my first) - The article was created in en and other languages the day she died. I could add recordings on demand, if needed. (See AllMusic link.) - I wonder if victims of the virus might appear within the box, if only to have some change there from time to time. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Support per nom. Short, but with statements supported with references. robertsky (talk) 15:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
plus Posted. El_C 18:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Jimmy Wynn[]

Stale --DannyS712 (talk) 05:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Jimmy Wynn (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): ESPN, Houston Chronicle
Crs:
Nominator's comments: Former professional baseball player. Three time MLB All Star, member of the Houston Astros Hall of Fame, jersey number retired by the Astros. Thrashbandicoot01 (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: John O'Leary (golfer)[]

Article: John O'Leary (golfer) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): European Tour
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Some sourcing still needed in places DannyS712 (talk) 06:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Now reasonably sourced DannyS712 (talk) 06:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Curly Neal[]

Article: Curly Neal (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Short but should be reasonably sourced. Masem (t) 01:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Michel Hidalgo[]

Stale --DannyS712 (talk) 05:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Michel Hidalgo (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC Sport
Crs:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: French Football Manager won the Euro 1984. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:48, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Oppose there is only one reference in the article (which doesn't even mention his death) updated since I added oppose Joseywales1961 (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


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(Stale) RD: Mark Blum[]

Stale --DannyS712 (talk) 05:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Mark Blum (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Variety
Crs:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: COVID-related death. Article needs major improvements before posting. Masem (t) 18:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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(Closed) Nicolás Maduro indicted for drug trafficking[]

Consensus will not develop to post this. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 02:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Nicolás Maduro (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and numerous high ranking officials are indicted by the United States Government on drug trafficking and related charges.
Alternative blurb: Nicolás Maduro and Venezuelan numerous high ranking officials are indicted by the United States Government on drug trafficking and related charges.
News source(s): NY Times, Guardian
Crs:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Highly controversial head of state indicted for narco terrorism along with a bunch of other higher ups is highly unusual. Ad Orientem (talk) 16:31, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment. I think there is merit to posting this, but it is debatable as to if Maduro is the legitimate President or not, so I would suggest leaving his title out. 331dot (talk) 16:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I agree with regard to his legitimacy, but most of the RS sources are referring to him as president so that's what I went with. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thanks 331dot (talk) 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
RS's call Maduro president when they want to throw shade, and call Guaidó president when they want to de-legitimize Maduro. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Please bear in mind WP:FORUM. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:30, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Sure, but it's relevant in this discussion given that for the last year RS has been calling Guaidó the legitimate preisdent of Venezuela and have suddenly changed their tune for this narrow case. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:58, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support on the basis that RSes are generally recognizing his legitimacy as president, that the indictments against a sitting world leader are a major news factor. Article seems fine, but it would be nice if in the blurb if there was any specific of the cases that we could link to - I can't tell immediately, for example, if this is related to Operation Car Wash or other similar things, just to provide better context. --Masem (t) 16:50, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • LMFAO (oppose). The absurdity of the rightists MDS notwithstanding, the target has a one-liner update, Maduro won't be extradited or tried in the United States, and we have a long standing (albeit a bit silly) policy on not posting indictments. It does bar him from attending the UN though. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support on grounds of notability and unusualness, which isn't the typical politician indictment for corruption. If it helps, I would like to note that the indictment refers to Maduro as "Former President". I have added an altblurb without a position to avoid disputes regarding his legitimacy. If I may, I would also like to support adding a related image in the Main Page. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose - What's the long-term impact of this event? Because maybe I'm just not seeing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nice4What (talkcontribs)
  • Oppose-On the grounds that this is only of political relevance, represents an American viewpoint and Wikipedia should not engage in furthering political smears as it damages our image of neutrality. --Willthewanderer (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
These charges are being widely reported in RS sources. We don't refuse to post news because we don't like it. Your use of the word "smears " also suggests a certain bias. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Willthewanderer As noted above, "Please do not oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." 331dot (talk) 19:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
If we are to accept national bias then I must object to the entire concept, we are not a news site and it shouldn't be up to us to dictate what is and isn't news- This is an encyclopedia. We leave ourselves wide open to accusations of national bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Willthewanderer (talkcontribs) 21:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Maduro is never going to be put on trial in the United States, and we don't post indictments that are only for show. Even if Maduro is arrested, brought to America, and put on trial at some point in the future, then the circumstances that led to that (his removal from office) are what should be posted here, not this indictment. NorthernFalcon (talk) 19:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - A pretty sad attempt at political histrionics to distract from COVID-19.--WaltCip (talk) 19:22, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WaltCip. It seems like a purely political ploy with no impact on reality for anyone in any way. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Question. How many nations have indictments against heads of state of other nations, even for 'political' reasons? 331dot (talk) 19:42, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I seem to recall that one or two countries had charged George W. Bush with war crimes.--WaltCip (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
So it's a pretty rare thing, regardless of the reason? I mean, the US has not indicted Vladimir Putin for election interference. 331dot (talk) 19:48, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Surely there's a reason for that.... – Muboshgu (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Manuel Noriega was indicted in the US -- and then the US invaded and abducted him. I'd support posting that if they did it to Venezuela --LaserLegs (talk) 19:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
That would be incredibly newsworthy, likely for all the wrong reasons.--WaltCip (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. Little chance of it being enacted, and not of lasting significance.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:54, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now, wait to see if anything concrete happens. This is clearly politically motivated, and we wouldn't post a drug dealer being charged if he wasn't the president of a country. The US has no way of arresting Maduro. If this turns into a major diplomatic incident then maybe it could be postable, but more likely everyone shrugs and nothing happens. Maduro's article is a POV nightmare and has just one sentence of update, with no more information than the blurb. Modest Genius talk 19:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose we might post sentencings or convictions but certainly not indictments. Banedon (talk) 21:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Modest Genius and WaltCip. Jusdafax (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose If we posted every time the US announced Maduro was guilty of something, the box would never be empty of one. If something happens, please post. (I have made an update to his article) Kingsif (talk) 22:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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(Closed) Guilty plea in Christchurch mosque shootings[]

No consensus to post. Stephen 03:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Christchurch mosque shootings (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Brenton Tarrant pleads guilty to 51 counts of murder, 40 counts of attempted murder, and one count of terrorism in the Christchurch mosque shootings.
Alternative blurb: ​The trial for the Christchurch mosque shootings results in conviction of the accused.
News source(s): CNN, AP, BBC, Guardian
Crs:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This is equivalent to the point of conviction otherwise. the next step is the sentencing but which can't happen due to COVID-19, but we'd not post that. Masem (t) 05:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose although it is mildly surprising he changed his plea, it was 100% inevitable that he would be found guilty having filmed himself killing all these people. The initial posting of this crime is sufficient. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:22, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Calgary's deadliest massacre seemed 100% inevitable to be Calgary's largest murder when first news broke, too, but nope. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:39, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per reasons above. Admittedly surprised the entire trial took over a year. Juxlos (talk) 09:08, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The long and winding trial hadn't begun yet and won't now. That's why pleading guilty is noteworthy. Maybe blurbworthy. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Effectively cancels the most high-profile trial in New Zealand and alt-right history, but without using the coronavirus defense. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support posting the resolution of this case(essentially a conviction). 331dot (talk) 10:31, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Per TRM. The ramifications of this plea were effectively a foregone conclusion a year ago. – Sca (talk) 13:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
A year ago, most figured we'd see a guy and his legal team try to justify this for a week or so. There were publication bans and controversial testimony in the works, the whole damn circus was coming to town. But that just changed forever today. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Article is high quality, has a high quality update, and news sources are covering the story. Checks all of the boxes. --Jayron32 14:42, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Well it's a turnout. And such a notable case, separate to the crime, that the surprise result is some news. Kingsif (talk) 15:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment – Dropping my opposition in deference to foregoing. However, the article's updates re plea are quite thin. More RS-documentation would be advisable. (Three offered above.) – Sca (talk)
  • Support per Jayron32. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support article is pretty good, item is in the news. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:30, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per TRM. There was never any doubt who did it, we posted the original story, this isn't really startling news in itself.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment - Suggest removing the suspect's name, replacing the appropriate section of the blurb with just "a suspect pleads guilty".--WaltCip (talk) 19:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
    • There is zero point at this time to hide the name now that they have confessed. I could understand that if this was a trial just starting (which we would not be posting) we'd probably be careful, but the issue around naming the culprit that existed in the weeks after the event no longer exist here. --Masem (t) 19:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose in addition to the above, per NZ prime minister Jacinda Ardern, it's preferable not to speak this person's name or give him any publicity. Banedon (talk) 21:22, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Unlike past cases where the gov't courts or the like have had orders to keep the name private, PM Ardern's request is only a personal one and certainly one that RSes across the board are not following. --Masem (t) 21:53, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Without prejudice to the other arguments against this and not taking a position myself, this seems a bit like righting great wrongs given that the suspect's name is already publicly available and has been for a while. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 04:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Added altblurb. The fact that he reversed and pleaded guilty is not the important part, the conviction is the noteworthy event per preceding nominations. Altblurb is more concise and anonymizes the name. - Indefensible (talk) 23:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
    • No, that's far too simplification of the news. As pointed out above, the suspect had been claiming not innocent, and there was a big gearing up for a major trial on this. Then suddenly he pleads guilty, out of nowhere. That's the story. Yes, on that, he's convicted, and sentencing will come later, but it's not simply a conviction as the altblurb suggestions. --Masem (t) 02:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
      • Not sure that is significant. From a distant observer's perspective, there was a crime, a guilty plea, and a conviction. Those are the key events thus far, and the ones that matter legally. That there was an expectation of a major trial and an unexpected guilty plea seems like trivia, it is ultimately unimportant to the resolution of the case. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and WP:NOTNEWS, it does not seem like the drama should be the noteworthy aspect for expounding on. - Indefensible (talk) 03:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
        • And that's the problem to take "from the distant observers perspective". All court cases could be summarized "A criminal is convicted" which... yeah, is a massive understatement. The point is that the article on the shootings does explain that there was preparation for this trial to be a media circus and then for reasons we don't know, it suddenly didn't happen. We have to be a bit more aware of details to phrase it to draw interest on the main page, distant to be impartial but no so distant to be ignorant. --Masem (t) 03:56, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
          • There should be no penalty for being a distant, disinterested perspective, if anything it should be emphasized. 1) Most topics will be such for an or because one cannot be everywhere, 2) an encyclopedia should be as objective as possible, and 3) being too close to the subject increases the chance of WP:COI. It is not true that all cases could be summarized as that, a case could result in acquittal and providing the outcome of conviction or acquittal is the key detail. That the article explains the details is exactly why it is okay to summarize concisely, because any reader can click the link to learn those things if they choose to. It is a slippery slope into click bait territory to try and make encyclopedic content overtly "interesting," and again Wikipedia is not primarily for news anyway. - Indefensible (talk) 15:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose altblurb 1, weak oppose overall Not only do I not agree with anonymizing the name as I said above, but a guilty plea is substantially different from a conviction, even if only for laypeople. As for this story overall, we posted the original shooting IIRC, and this seems more of a legalistic follow-up, although we have posted convictions on here before (but not generally sentencings or other post-trial legal stuff). – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 04:24, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Aside from preserving anonymity, the shooter is not notable enough to have his own article, thus my argument for not including him in the blurb.--WaltCip (talk) 11:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
He's notable enough, just that his notability is tied to events with a shared article, so a standalone bio would only be redundant to his article-sized biographical section. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:53, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Per Amakuru. It's not like William Wallace pled guilty. It is just a mundane detail that ultimately changes nothing. It would be news if he walked free. Nobody that's not been watching this case closely, everyday since day one, is going to understand why this was posted on the main page. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
If it changed nothing, why would CNN, AP and BBC call it shocking and relieving? Those aren't exactly synonyms for "meh". And no, I'm not "badgering the opposition", I'm "just sayin'". InedibleHulk (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per JM Wolfson above. Pleas and decisions are different things, and courts have in the past rejected guilty pleas for one reason or another. Finality will come on conviction. Anonymizing this is absurd; our own would-be bold-linked article on the Main Page gives the name in the lede, and there's no reason to entertain one PM's impossible and absurd demand on this.130.233.2.33 (talk) 14:17, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
This court didn't reject these pleas, though, so that's a conviction. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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March 25[]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Stale) RD: William Bartholomay[]

Article: William Bartholomay (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): MLB
Crs:

Nominator's comments: American businessman, owner of the Atlanta Braves. - Indefensible (talk) 16:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Harry Aarts[]

Article: Harry Aarts (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): bd.nl (Dutch)
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Dutch politician, Order of the Netherlands Lion. Article is short but seems referenced and may meet the requirements for RD posting. - Indefensible (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jennifer Bate[]

Article: Jennifer Bate (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Gramophone
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Concert organist - one of the first ever - who recordined all Messiaen guided by the composer. - Expanded a bit. There could be much more based on the present sources, but not by me right no, with two more RD waiting, and a GA review under way, + need fresh air. Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Kurti cabinet[]

Proposed image
Article: Kurti cabinet (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Kosovo's Kurti cabinet is voted out of power over disagreements over the handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
Alternative blurb: ​Prime Minister of Kosovo Albin Kurti is voted out of office because of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
Alternative blurb II: ​Prime Minister of Kosovo Albin Kurti is removed from office after the Assembly of Kosovo passes a motion of no confidence.
News source(s): [2]
Crs:

 —Jon698 (talk) 15:17, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

We posted the Taiwanese which I opposed as well though the article was much better. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The 2 examples are not exactly the same because in the Taiwanese case there was an election of a new government, in this case there is not yet a replacement government and the government which was voted out continues in a caretaker role. However, not necessarily against this being posted, as the blurb can be updated as appropriate later. - Indefensible (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • So you'd rather add it then...? The Prime Minister will resign regardless, like when Theresa May resigned (which we posted) but was still "acting" PM for a while. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 15:40, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @130.233.2.33: Just wondering, but do you have an account and just forgot to log in? – Jon698 (talk) 14:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Added ALT2 with this in mind. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 15:40, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @MSGJ: I updated it a few hours ago. – Jon698 (talk) 3:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mike Stratton[]

Article: Mike Stratton (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): USA Today, NBC Sports
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Six-time AFL All-Star and AFL All-Time Second Team selection. —Bagumba (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Robert Alan Levinson[]

Article: Disappearance of Robert Levinson (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC
Crs:

Article updated

 Count Iblis (talk) 23:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

So if it's not a BDP, it technically doesn't have to be on Margaret Thatcher's level for a blurb. But it still has to be deadlier than the Zagreb earthquake. Or not related to you-know-what. Or possibly on a website's frontpage. Or maybe get a certain ratio of votes. Or...? InedibleHulk (talk) 13:13, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I mean, he was no Nelson Mandela.--WaltCip (talk) 14:42, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Ganz typisch.Sca (talk) 22:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) 2020 India coronavirus lockdown[]

WP:NAC: thanks for the nomination, but the immediate and universal opposition demonstrates that this has no chance, so I'm closing per WP:SNOW. There's already a big banner about coronavirus in the template and many countries have already implemented lockdowns. ITN won't post a separate blurb about just one of them. Modest Genius talk 14:41, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Article: 2020 India coronavirus lockdown (talk, history)
Blurb: ​India goes under a nationwide lockdown to contain the spread of the coronavirus pandemic
Alternative blurb: ​PM Narendra Modi has ordered a nationwide lockdown in India to contain the coronavirus pandemic
Alternative blurb II: ​1.3 billion people go under lockdown as PM Narendra Modi orders a nationwide lockdown in India.
News source(s): BBC, The New York Times
Crs:
  • Weak Oppose We didn't do it for France or Spain, India is just one of many countries going under lockdown. --Rockin 12:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose many other countries (Italy, Spain, France, UK to an extent) have gone into lockdown. It's why the coronavirus general thing is up at ITN, to avoid having to put all the specific articles on ITN. Also the article is only start class at the moment, would need improving. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Covid banner is there for a reason. robertsky (talk) 13:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Many other countries have already done so. There's nothing significant here. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose welcome, India, to the new normal. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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March 24[]

Arts and culture

Business and economy
Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Science and technology

Sports

(Posted) RD: Anatoliy Mokrenko[]

Article: Anatoliy Mokrenko (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): radio svoboda
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Ukrainian baritone opera singer, who appeared in films, later also director of the National Opera, taking the company to France, other Europe and Asia. - Prompted by a red link, I collected from puzzle pieces, - additions welcome, hopefully by someone who speaks the language. Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alfred Gomolka[]

Article: Alfred Gomolka (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [3], [4]
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: EU politician, died on this date Joseph2302 (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: William Dufris[]

Article: William Dufris (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Notable VA, Bob the Builder. Major sourcing issues. Masem (t) 19:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Stuart Gordon[]

Article: Stuart Gordon (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Director known for a few cult classics (Re-Animator, Honey I Shrunk the Kids); some sourcing problems though with article. Masem (t) 13:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted to RD) RD: Bill Rieflin[]

Article: Bill Rieflin (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Variety
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Drummer associated with multiple bands including REM and King Crimson, died after battle w/ cancer. Typical sourcing problems but looks like a few working on it. Masem (t) 00:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Masem, Should be added. :/ </3 ―Justin (koavf)TCM 00:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I thought I added you to updater... it says it there ...--Masem (t) 00:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Masem, I did mean, "I should be added" I meant, "This entry should be added to 'In the News', also, I am sad because Bill Reiflin is dead". Pardon me for being unclear. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 17:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Ahh, sorry. Yes, obviously definitely to be added (and has been to you and others getting it up to quality). --Masem (t) 18:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Working through those at the moment, esp. the bits around Swans and Ministry. Damn. The bad news keeps a comin'! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Support good work all. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Note to posting admin: I added myself to the updaters, but User:Lugnuts should be in there too, however the template only has 3 slots! Black Kite (talk) 09:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Terrence McNally[]

Article: Terrence McNally (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NYTimesCNN
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Tony Award & Emmy Award-winning playwright, wrote the book for Ragtime, died from complications due to Coronavirus TenorTwelve (talk) 21:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Are Huff and People considered RSs? – Sca (talk) 22:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
I switched it to NYTimes and CNN per your request -TenorTwelve (talk) 23:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Huff is "debatable" and People is good for BLP - see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources Joseywales1961 (talk) 23:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Huffington Post is well established as a reliable source; People would actually be questionable to a degree as it gets a bit more into celebrity gossip. --Masem (t) 23:58, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

(Reposted) 2020 Summer Olympics postponed[]

Article: 2020 Summer Olympics (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The 2020 Summer Olympics will be postponed as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.
Alternative blurb: ​The International Olympic Committee announces that the Olympic Games planned for this summer will be postponed for one year
Alternative blurb II: ​Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the International Olympic Committee announced that the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games this summer will be postponed to 2021.
News source(s): Guardian, BBC, IOC
Crs:

Nominator's comments: Pretty major sporting event, worldwide. I remember someone saying that this should be the only event that should be ITN if postponed. --Rockin 19:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Stale. – Sca (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
A week-old announcement certainly is very stale indeed. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
As someone who's in ITN for years knows, that's not how we suggest staleness. Don't be dishonest about this. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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ZZZzzzz....Sca (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I guess the yawning monkey loses this time. ;-) WaltCip (talk) 13:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

In terms of news, this is silly. – Sca (talk) 13:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

It used to be. But this year, it's nothing, the absence of all those things. Not even still watchable online, like bigger events will be. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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I smell a rat. – Sca (talk) 16:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Things just get curiouser and curiouser.
(And old news just gets staler and staler.)
Sca (talk) 22:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Everything we post is stale, and if this is pulled something even older will get dragged up in its place. One COVID-19 story slipped past the gigantic unnecessary banner -- just let it go. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. Sca has provided and captioned three solid animal pictures. Should be clear enough to anyone what happened here. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
You must admit that's much more economical in terms of cyberwork than posting 3,000 words of argument. – Sca (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Manu Dibango[]

Article: Manu Dibango (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Famous saxophone player, died today (from Covid-19). Article has been updated extensivley by a number of ors already (not me!), not clear who best to give cr. Fram (talk) 10:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Albert Uderzo[]

Article: Albert Uderzo (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Le Monde, BBC
Crs:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Recent death of one of the most popular comics artists ever, artist (for over 50 years) and writer (for more than 20 years) of Asterix, known worldwide. Perhaps not quite at blurb level (though I wouldn't oppose one), but of the 10 most translated french language authors, he was the only one who still lived (see here). Fram (talk) 10:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

  • I'd make an argument for a blurb when the article's up to scratch - if we're looking at the top of one's field, then storytelling comics (rather than the superhero-y/serial ones) is a field dominated by Asterix around the world. Kingsif (talk) 19:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Storytelling was Goscinny's field, though. Asterix and Obelix are pretty iconic designs, but the dog and wizard are pretty forgettable. Compare to the dozens more memorable toons Matt Groening drew, for perspective on world dominance. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Support This is beyond ready. Why hasn't it been posted yet? Manish2542 (talk) 18:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

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