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January 19[]

Restoring a Deleted Article - What to Do About Redirect[]

This is about Draft:Ammar Campa-Najjar. There was a BLP of this person. It was then deleted pursuant to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ammar Campa-Najjar (2nd nomination) and redirected to2018 United States House of Representatives elections in California. A deletion review endorsed the deletion and noted that the article could be restored if there was new information to establish general notability. The subject does not currently satisfy political notability. There has recently been discussion to the effect that the draft should now be accepted. However, there is currently a redirect, and the redirect says that it is a redirect with history and should not be deleted. What can be done to accept the draft? The usual AFC script will not accept the draft if there is a redirect at the title. Is human action needed? If so, where do I request the human action? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I think at that you can place your request at Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests. If necessary, a history merge of the redirect and the new article can be done. RudolfRed (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, User:RudolfRed. I requested that. A history merge is required, or at least the redirect says it has history and should not be deleted. Otherwise I would do a Page Move of the redirect into neverland and move the draft and then tag the redirect for G6. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:04, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Getting load-time metrics for a script[]

I'm currently working on my own anti-vandal tool, and was wondering where I could ask for people to measure how fast it loads? It's usually under half a second for me (After loading it for the first time. If the cache is empty it takes about 2 sec), but I imagine it varies across machines. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 04:46, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf, Village Pump (Technical) might be a place to try. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 08:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Should short descriptions include vital years?[]

I have been adding short descriptions, and improving (I hope) existing ones. I was under the impression there was a guideline that the short description for a biographical article should include the vital years, or year of birth - but I can't find it documented anywhere. But some of my changes have been reverted, claiming this made the short description too long. So now I'm not sure whether to include them or not. Can anybody please point me to whether there is such a guideline (or did I just imagine it)? --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Gronk Oz, The guidelines are at Wikipedia:Short description (perhaps other guidelines exist, but I've never run across them and couldn't find more). My reading has always been that you should aim for no longer than 40 characters, and that otherwise the guidelines say fairly little. My personal approach has been to only include dates when there is room and it is critical. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 08:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@CaptainEek: Thanks for that. I must have been imagining things again... Smile.gif --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:20, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Gronk Oz: Check out WP:WPSHORTDESC? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 13:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks AlanM1 - that was the first place I looked but I can't see an answer there - did I miss it? --Gronk Oz (talk) 22:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

page notice: Karsonya Wise Whitehead[]

I dont understand what is required. I checked the source and each of the notes mentioned about this person has a citation.

Copyright-problem paste 2.svg This article or section may have been copied and pasted from another location, possibly in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please review (DupDet · CopyVios) and remedy this by ing this article to remove any non-free copyrighted content and attributing free content correctly, or flagging the content for deletion. Please be sure that the supposed source of the copyright violation is not itself a Wikipedia mirror. (January 2020) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mommado5 (talkcontribs) 08:42, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

The notice is not about lack of citations, it's about copyright violation. Specifically, it claims that some part of the article may be a copyright violation of . I'm not seeing that myself; you could take it up with the or who placed the notice, Souravdas1998.   Maproom (talk) 09:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Geographical databases question[]

Hello all- I have been doing work on obscure geographical terms in southern Xinjiang making use primarily of the National Bureau of Statistics of the People's Republic of China's index of minor locations and of GEOnet Names Server in conjunction with old maps, news articles, books and scholarly papers. Are there any other good databases that would include minor locations in this area? Here's what I've worked on today: Jiya Township. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Correction of spelling of name[]

Incorrect name: Alfredo Versoza Correct name: Alfredo Verzosa

Thank you for reporting this. I've moved the article to Alfredo Verzosa.   Maproom (talk) 13:14, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Gallery perrow oddity[]

On c:File:I Wrote a Full Song in 24_Hours-K7r58jQqK8I00227.png and on 18 other images derived from one video the other versions gallery works as expected, four "Blackery with guitar" in one row for a total of five related images in this subset, with a perrow=4 gallery parameter. On enwiki the perrow=4 fails for File:I Wrote a Full Song in 24_Hours-K7r58jQqK8I00227.png and for me, what is the problem, is it only me, does it work for you?
From a teahouse archive: (talk) 12:55, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Since nobody replied to the first time, it's a good bet that there is nobody here with both the interest and the knowledge. Help talk:Gallery tag might be a better place to ask, or WP:VPT. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
It's an idea, some years ago this page was better for technical questions and WP:TEA was mostly a friendly space.(smiley suppressed) – (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


In the Portuguese Wikipedia, I'm already a rollbacker and eliminator/deleter ( only, basically you can delete and restore pages, and it has the autopatrol function). With that information, is it possible to request Autoreviewer here? GhostP. talk 16:15, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, GhostP.. You can certainly request the right: whether an admin will give it you or not, I don't know. Have a look at WP:Autopatrolled#Obtaining the right. --ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Question of curiosity: least read articles on Wikipedia[]

Is there any way to find the least popular or least read article on English Wikipedia? By whatever definition we might have. I would assume "fewest number of views for the most extended time" (or something like that). And, if not the least popular, how about a list of the "bottom grouping"? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:33, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: Any such list would attract kiddevandals. -Arch dude (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: So...?
AFAIK any information may attract vandals, does it mean we should avoid publishing any information at Wikipedia??? Face-surprise.svg CiaPan (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@CiaPan: we should publish those articles. we should not create a list of places on Wikipedia where vandalism is likely to persist. Let's take this offline. See WP:BEANS). -Arch dude (talk) 17:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The pageview data is available here but as far as I can see no one has ever made a "least popular" report from it. I for one think this would be very interesting (but might be full of zero view pages). I don't think this would be WP:BEANS-y since the majority of our pages are unpopular and are only overseen by recent changes patrollers anyways. @West.andrew.g, do you think it would be worth it to assemble a one-off report on this? – Thjarkur (talk) 20:39, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The long tail is looooong. I can probably run a report for 2019, although it is likely too long to share in Wikipedia format when we consider articles with <10 or <100 views. What is the use-case? Can we move this to the talk page of WP:5000 or WP:Top_25_Report? I also see the WP:BEANS potential here, as watchlister counts are proportional to views, but at the same time, vandalism that no one sees has minimal impact (soapbox: see my prior research, massive traffic pages are a far greater vulnerability if we measure vandalism impact by viewership). But, as I said, I want to know there is some utility here before I dedicate time to custom reports. West.andrew.g (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@West.andrew.g: Thanks. No, this list is not something that I "need". It was just a question of curiosity, as my header indicates. I thought it might already exist somewhere here on Wikipedia. In which case, I would have liked to take a look at it. But, if this is a big project and a lot of work/effort ... no, it is not that important. Like I said, I certainly don't "need" it. I was just curious. If it's quick and easy, I'd like to see it. If it's a lot of work, don't trouble yourself. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Same here, no real utility apart from curiosity. I gave up on making this report for another smaller wiki where I wanted to clean up the unread junk articles and find unintegrated walled gardens, but of course those junk articles aren't really hurting anyone since no one's reading them. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:16, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


Sikh Panth Foundation Day[]

I would like to notify that the Sikh Foundation day written as 30th March 1699 on the Wikipedia Page but actually according to Sikh history the day was on 13th April 1699 instead of 30th March 1699. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Please make suggestions for article improvement on the article's talk page, and be sure to include a reference to a reliable source (WP:RS). In this case, the issue may be Old Style and New Style dates. -Arch dude (talk) 17:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Technical problem with SVG file[]

Even after years of ing Wikipedia, I wasn't sure where to post this; let me know if there's some more technically-oriented board to ask this question. I'm trying to upload to Commons a more accurate version of File:RosettaStoneAsPartOfOriginalStele.svg, before an article in which it appears runs as TFA on January 24. When I try, I get an error message:

"<a> elements can only link (href) to data: (embedded file), http:// or https://, or fragment (#, same-document) targets. For other elements, such as <image>, only data: and fragment are allowed. Try embedding images when exporting your SVG. Found <image"2974d5a2d85405a5.jpg">

I've asked about this problem on Commons' help desk, but nobody has responded so far. I'm guessing that the error is related to the JPG image of the Rosetta Stone embedded within the SVG (I did not the JPG when revising the image), but I don't understand the error message beyond that. A. Parrot (talk) 17:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@A. Parrot: your SVG file contains a link to an external URL, and that is (apparently) not allowed, probably due to potential for copyright violations. to cure this you will need to modify the SVG file so that it actually includes the image itself, not a link to it. How you do this will depend on your SVG creation software. Whether to do this at all depends on the copyright status of the image. -Arch dude (talk) 17:26, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Thank you for your prompt reply. I think the original image was File:Rosetta Stone BW.jpeg. I'm not 100% sure about its copyright status, but considering how many other Commons images incorporate it, I hope it's legit. A. Parrot (talk) 18:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The file (page you linked to) says it's in the public domain, A. Parrot. --ColinFine (talk) 18:43, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
It does, but the uploaders seem to have extracted it from the European Space Agency page and declared it public domain while doing so, on the grounds that the stone itself is public domain. The stone's etched text makes its surface not entirely two-dimensional, which means photos of that surface are technically copyrightable. It shouldn't be a problem, but I've had to worry about the copyright status of so many photos of ancient artwork over the years. A. Parrot (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
SVGs with embedded raster files are generally problematic on commons: Users incl. other MediaWiki projects (per InstantCommons) should be able to download and use the SVG without further difficulties: No external links loading tracking pixels or causing havoc in offline scenarios, no giant SVGs with raster files in a data URI, no weird scripts for animations (personal opinions, the policies allow more), etc. Also see lots(!) of SVG help + project files on commons. – (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@A. Parrot: The URL in the original complaint message was not the Rosetta stone or anything else on Commons: it was a URL at This means it was likely something your SVG or added for some obscure reason of its own. Your original technical problem is entirely separate from any copyright issue with an image of the Rosetta Stone. -Arch dude (talk) 20:46, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I see. If I replace that link with an image that's contained within the SVG, such as File:Rosetta_Stone.svg, uploading should work, correct? A. Parrot (talk) 20:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@A. Parrot: I can't say without looking at the .svg file source. My speculation is that the URL is unrelated to the image and is elsewhere in the file. If it were not a .jpg, I would guess it was an svg namespace declaration. Examine the source with a text or and see what you can make of it. -Arch dude (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Update: I've successfully uploaded a revised version of the image, so this problem is resolved. Thank you for your help. A. Parrot (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Make emoji to send someone to Wikapedia[]

As above emoji to get user in chat exchange to get them to look up in Wikapedia. I've volunteered for you that's my 3 dollars for years thanks Jeffrey Hansen — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

The Help Desk is for asking about how to or use Wikipedia. Do you have a question? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:21, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

contents box on Malagasy Hippopotamus article different then section name[]

On the contents on Malagasy Hippopotamus box it says 4 Oral legends and the kilopilopitsofycode: mlg promoted to code: mg but the section is named Oral legends and the kilopilopitsofy Why is the contents box different and the other sections are the same in both the box and the article section name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:BC82:2300:41F7:68E0:D557:F8A7 (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The English Wikipedia and the Malagasy Wikipedia are entirely separate projects, with no influence over each other. Unless by chance there happens to be an or here who also s the Malagasy Wikipedia, there is nobody here who has any knowledge of it. You'll need to ask there, I'm afraid. I've just seen that you are talking about the Malagasy hippopotamus article in English Wikipedia. Sorry! Looking at it now. --ColinFine (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
OK, worked round it, by changing the ISO639 3-letter code to the 2-letter one. But it's a bug in {{lang}}: a warning message is appearing where it shouldn't. I will raise it on the template talk page.  Done --ColinFine (talk) 22:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Not a bug. See Template talk:Lang § Warning message appears when a 3-letter code is used in a section heading..
Trappist the monk (talk) 23:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


Dear Sir ,

Please be kind to inform that how much time would this precisely take to update the company info at Wikipedia ,how to insert picture in updation . — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:09, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

If you are promoting your company, it's not happening. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi there. We have articles instead of 'accounts' on Wikipedia, so please tell us the precise name of the article about which you are enquiring. It doesn't take long to update an article, but please let us know a bit more precise information. Thank you, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 23:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Bruny Island[]

Recently, I visited the website to see what the origins of Killora, Bruny Island is. I found Adventure Bay's previous name was written as Cooktown. It was Cookville NOT Cooktown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:16, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

You can tag similar issues directly, example: Special:Diff/928567155/936620862. – (talk) 00:14, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
To induce an or to actually change the Bruny Island article instead of adding a "citation needed" tag, you will need to find a published source (see WP:RS) that has your information in it. Even better: find the source and and change the article yourself to fix the name and add the source. -Arch dude (talk) 00:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

January 20[]

What is the Purpose of creating a account?[]

Hi, Im am good at writing articles..ect. But what is this site more about for users? Another words. what do I do. Do I create articles or ones on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dileot (talkcontribs) 03:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Over the course of the last 19 years, more than ten million ors have collaborated to create about six million articles. more than 100,000 unique ors have been active in the last 30 days. Each of us has our own motivations. If you wish to help build the largest and most comprehensive encyclopedia in the world, then Welcome! Take on any task you wish to. You are free to anonymously, but by creating an account, it becomes easier to collaborate with the rest of us. -Arch dude (talk) 03:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
If you are not sure where to start, you might enjoy Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure. -Arch dude (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanking ors[]

Hi all, When I thank an or for their contribution to an article on its history page, why don't they stay publicly thanked? I can't remember every single time I do this, and at some point it appears that they are ready for further plaudits. The idea that I might have done it before is only mildly embarrassing, but on the other hand some people might remain unthanked for this reason. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 12:07, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Help:Notifications/Thanks#Details and limitations says: 'You can only thank someone for a given once. After you have thanked someone for an , the "thank" link is replaced by the word "thanked". The "thank" link may reappear later but using it again will not send a new thanks.'
It was me who added [1] the last part based on testing. Somebody added a citation needed. I haven't seen it documented elsewhere but I made a new test now on an [2] by PrimeHunter2 I also thanked in 2015. The account did not receive a new thanks notification and the thanks does not appear in the log [3] (the log entry today is for another thanks). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@MinorProphet: May be the Special:Log can help you. If you choose the 'Thanks log' from the dropdown list and enter MinorProphet in the 'Performer' field, you will get a list of all your thanks to other ors. On the other hand, if you enter User:MinorProphet in the 'Target' field, you'll get a list of thanks to you from other ors. If you fill both fields, you'll see thanks from a specified user to another specified user. Alas it doesn't show the reason for the thank - what was thanked for. --CiaPan (talk) 13:06, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both for your typically swift and helpful replies. @PrimeHunter:, Now I know I can show my appreciation to ors as much as I like and not be worried about being over-thankful, and @CiaPan: I've also found someone via Special:Log who thanked me a long time ago and I never got back to them. Many thanks, :o) MinorProphet (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@MinorProphet: Keep in mind that every time you thank someone, it may alert them in various ways, which can be disruptive. Thanks for minor or routine s are probably unnecessary. If there are multiple related s by the same or, you don't need to thank them for each one – just one is enough. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 15:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@AlanM1: Could you perhaps explain further what is meant by "it may alert them in various ways, which can be disruptive."? I enjoyed reading your timely and helpful reply, which made me think some more about the subject of thanking ors. The articles I write tend to be 'minority interest', which get about 5 hits per week. I write them mostly for my own satisfaction, and I try to make them as comprehensive, well-spelled, gramatically correct and well-reffed as I can. If someone makes even a small constructive (eg making a WL), that usually means that they have taken the trouble to read the entire article and tried to improve it, and are therefore in some way interested in the same sort of out-of-the-way things as me: in my book that deserves a thank. I don't usually thank people for minor spelling or grammar s, which anyway doesn't happen a lot. On the other hand, I often manage to type "the the", and one particular or corrects this for me, for which I thank them, and have learned to watch out for this myself. I believe there is an automated tool to achieve this task, but I can never remember its name. I don't remember thanking anyone for multiple s, although Special:Log will show me now that I know it exists. It is also possible to thank somone in an ironic way, meaning "I don't agree with your reversion of my of 'your' article, and it's really not worth the bother getting upset about it: your opinion is noted": but I have only done this once or twice during my whole time on WP. Anyway, I thank you for your reminders, and I shall only thank you for your welcome contribution if you thank me for this one. PS I also remember acoustic modem couplers, although I've never used one. PPS Would you recommend me for WP:TYS, or is this not the done thing? PPPS What's the oldest you made that is still current? Mine's from August 2011. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 17:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@MinorProphet: Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo lets you set web and/or email notification for thanks received. The "web" notification adds to the "Notices" list in the top toolbar, which, like the email notifications, can be distracting if one were to get a lot of them. I've known ors to object to getting ping'd, too (probably those that participate in a lot of discussions). I wasn't necessarily referring to myself (it hasn't been a problem for me – I don't get thanked much Face-smile.svg) and I didn't look at your thanks sent log – I was just making a general comment. As far as getting thanks for minor s, I imagine that someone who does a lot of semi-auto s to fix things like common typos and formatting errors would probably prefer not to get thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Untitled post[]

Moved to new section by MinorProphet (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC), assuming it wasn't directed at any of the participants in the above discussion...

oi you, why are you threatening to delete my account!!!! I love son and would never say anything bad about him so you better stop rn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aydnhasabigwilly (talkcontribs) 14:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Aydnhasabigwilly, I can see you're a fan of the Tottenhams which is good, but since Wikipedia articles try to be as neutral as possible we can't say that it is the "best club in the world". We of course welcome your contributions if you can summarize what reliable sources say from a neutral point of view. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I've never in my life heard anybody refer to Tottenham Hotspur F.C. as "the Tottenhams", Thjarkur. "Tottenham" sometimes, but usually "Spurs". --ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
It maybe goes without saying that my knowledge of football is, er, superficial – Thjarkur (talk) 17:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Their nickname is the Yids. Here's a great book for fans and non-fans alike to get you started. How Soccer Explains the World. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) My old mate Jeff, a life-long Totty fan (©Finbarr Saunders 2020), will love this one. He actually growls at you if you call them "Spurs". PS Does this mean we are "The Wickeds"? MinorProphet (talk) 15:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect picture posted[]

Sarah Vaughan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

On Sarah Vaughan's wiki page, a picture of Ella Fitzgerald is posted as, "The Divine One." Sarah Vaughan was often referred to as either the "Divine-One", or "Sassy." Although Ella was also divine, I believe her picture was incorrectly posted on Miss Vaughan's wiki page. Younger fans looking to bone up on their knowledge and appreciation of these two wonderful artists, who are no longer with us, might be unnecessarily confused. Would someone kindly look into this, and make the appropriate correction?

Jazz Fan, Joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Joe, there are sevral pictures at Vaughan's article. Which one(s) are you stating to be incorrect? BTW, if you are seeing the results of a Google search, Wikipedia has no control over what they display although they often do so in a way that implies that it comes from Wikipedia. Should this be the case, there is a 'feedback' link at the bottom of the panel in search results. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, aren't you possibly confusing some known images, like those opening the web pages: this one (Ella at Shazam and this one (Sarah at Jazziz)...? --CiaPan (talk) 10:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

wrong "Links to this page"[]

For Farrand & Votey Organ Company it shows that 9 articles are linked to my new article I created today. However, it lists the wrong "Links to this page" articles AND as ony 4 items linking to the article. Can someone more technical than myself fix this so it shows the the correct items. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: If you're talking about Special:WhatLinksHere/Farrand & Votey Organ Company, I don't see anything wrong. There are links from the two named founders and a couple other articles, links from your sandbox pages, others related to the DYK nom, etc.. What is your concern? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 16:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
When I click here it doesn't show correctly. I got there by clicking on History, then Page statistics for the company.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell: Looks like a bug. I've reported it at phab:T243225. Nice catch. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:12, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell: MusikAnimal released a fix less than an hour later, and it's pending deployment. Beat that [insert giant corporate software company here]! Face-smile.svg —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

How to hide wikipedia searches[]

My search history keeps appearing in the search box, as soon as I put the cursor there. I would like this not to happen. I'm sure it's something simple I must just be missing. Suggestions? Thank you! -A. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikialmado (talkcontribs) 18:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

It's your browser's autocomplete and websites can no longer control whether it appears. Here are instructions for turning off your browser's autocomplete – Thjarkur (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Merge new and old account[]

Hello, I've had an account here for many years now and recently i have been unable to log into it, i just created a new username and would like to know if an administrator can retrieve my old account which i prefer since I've ed multiple times with that account. My username for the old account is monkelese. thanks. (Monkelese15 (talk) 19:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Monkelese15: All you can do is add a note to your new user page stating that you previously ed using the previous account. RudolfRed (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Kamiyah Mobley[]

There was a movie and interview on TV a few days ago about the abduction of baby Kamiyah Mobley over 20 years ago, so I came here to see if there was an article about the crime. There is, and it's titled Kamiyah Mobley. I went to the article and immediately noticed a sentence in the opening paragraph that said, "She had been raised under (and now willingly goes by) the name Alexis Manigo." I thought that part in parentheses ("and now willingly goes by") was odd and, more importantly, completely contradicts what was conveyed on the TV programs (movie and post-movie interview with Mobley herself, conducted by ABC's Robin Roberts), so I looked at the source that was attached to see if it verified that claim. It did not, so I removed the parentheses part a few minutes ago. I looked in the history of the article and saw it was added in August 2018 by someone who just stuck that odd part in to an existing sentence. I then looked at that person's talk page and see he/she has been warned repeatedly about adding content without a source. I then looked at that person's other in August 2018 and saw he/she had changed the name of the article from "Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley" to just "Kamiyah Mobley" and included this very unusual summary: "living individual. while she is famous for having been kidnapped, she is alive and so could go on to do other things later in life. No disrespect to her family or her if they happen to see this." It's the title change that prompted me to come here for help. I feel this title change was wrong and the reason makes absolutely no sense. That or is basically saying that he/she changed the title to just her name because MAYBE one day she'll be notable on her own. But the article is solely about the abduction case. Based on all this, I have a few questions. Was this an appropriate title change? Can a person have an article about them (with the title being their name only) if their only "claim to fame" is being a kidnap victim? If not, can someone here reverse the title change and put it back as "Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley"? 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:18AE:9870:D055:58D9 (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Link to in questionThjarkur (talk) 19:27, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
You are correct: the original title followed our guidelines and the new title does not. We probably need an administrator to to do the move-back. And thanks for pointing this out.-Arch dude (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I have moved the article back to Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley. (I have no admin powers.) Maproom (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to all for your help on this. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:18AE:9870:D055:58D9 (talk) 02:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

January 21[]

how to stop accidentally ing wiki articles[]

i sometimes get messages about ing an article which is something ive never intentionally done, how do i stop this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

You are not logged in, so we know you by your IP address instead of a user name. The IP address is shared, so different people use it. You are seeing messages intended for those earlier people. You may simply ignore the messages. I better solution is to create a login and use it. It's actually more anonymous than the IP address, and you won't be bothered with this stuff again. -Arch dude (talk) 06:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I suppose 'I better solution' should rather read like 'A better solution'. --CiaPan (talk) 10:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Question regarding the copyright infringement[]

Hi. I got this message when created a wiki page. I have deleted the section of the page where had the infringement issue. Could you tell me what my next step is to complete the page? Thank you very much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sekigu524 (talkcontribs) 06:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sekigu524: Which page? your have not created any page with this account, so we do not know how to help you. -Arch dude (talk) 06:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: sorry.I created the page.(I consulted Sekigu524. And Sekigu524 asked a question.) -Castor KakuWakako (talk) 07:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Castor KakuWakako:If you are sure you have removed all copyrighted material, then immediately create the article's talk page and contest the speedy deletion, stating that you have removed all such material. Do that now, then we can work on all the other problems. -Arch dude (talk) 07:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

What to do if someone keep reverting my contribution[]

Hello I am updating the information under "Schedule" on Radio Cardiff page. But CAPTAIN RAJU keeps reverting this and accuses me of "Vandalism" and not "constructive". It is ridiculous as I am working with te station and updating the most important information of radio schedule. How can it be not constructive?. What shall I do if I do need to change the information on the page? Zsl11913 (talk) 12:14, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Zsl11913: Hello, if your changes are reverted you should open a discussion at the article talk page to reach consensus with the other or involved. However, before undertaking any further s you must read both WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter page is mandatory under the terms of use) and make the necessary declarations. You should also, not the page directly but make requests at the talk page following the instructions found at Template:Request . Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks. Nevermind, I am working as a volunteer so I am not paid. And all I am doing is simply updating radio station schedule, which has nothing to do either conflict of interest or vandalism. And keeping information up-to-date is one of the most constructive thing people could do on Wikipedia. This page has been updated regularly by me as we change the schedule quite often and it makes no sense that updating a schedule needs these complicated procedure. Zsl11913 (talk) 12:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
It appears the main reason why you were reverted because some of the text was out of place. To the people who combat vandalism (who try to use quick heuristics to determine if an was constructive or not) it may have appeared like a test . The messages you were sent are templated messages and they sometimes don't describe the situation very well. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks for your explanation. It would be much easier if this was explained by the person who reverted my work instead of calling me vandalism. I spent hours ing now it all gone. Really frustrated. But again, thank you for your explanation. Zsl11913 (talk) 12:42, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Zsl11913: You have declared a connection with the subject. You therefore need to read both pages and make the necessary declarations. Volunteers are considered to be 'employees' as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Wikipedia is happy to receive your input as long as the conditions are complied with. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Thank you. Job done. May I revert my contributions now? Or someone could help me with this? Zsl11913 (talk) 12:57, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

The schedule should not be in the article at all. As per WP:NOTRADIOGUIDE - X201 (talk) 13:16, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@X201: Sure, many thanks for this. Zsl11913 (talk) 13:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
( conflict)@Zsl11913: Not sure what you mean, it looks to me as if your s have been undone by other or(s). I don't think there's a need to rv anything at the article page. BTW a 'ping' will not work unless you add it together with the message and your signature all in one fell swoop – one . Eagleash (talk) 13:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Thanks for this, all sorted now. Zsl11913 (talk) 13:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Citing references[]

I have just added to an article on the Medical Practitioners' Union. This is my first attempt at ing Wikipedia. I was happy to add references but I couldn't identify how to insert a reference. When I saved the article it said "Cite error - there are reference tags without content" but I couldn't see these reference tags. What do I do? I want to add the proper references to the article and remove the cite error — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen John Watkins (talkcontribs) 12:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Stephen John Watkins: Hello, with this you added ref tags just before the references section. These do not render on the displayed page. You place the reference material between ref tags at the point in the text which the source supports and this will then display in the references section due to the presence of the 'reflist' template. For more information please see WP:REFB. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Editing the July 12 Wikipedia page[]

I would like to add to the Notable Deaths section of the July 12 page: Elaine Morgan, Welsh writer, aquatic ape hypothesis (b. 1920) — Preceding unsigned comment added by May Monique Ocean (talkcontribs) 12:56, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@May Monique Ocean:  Done I have added Morgan to the list. Yhank you for pointing out the omission. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you.Eagleash (talk) 13:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Inaccurate information[]

Whilst trying to resolve inaccurate information on a page, it became apparent that when what I was arguing was not in the biased opinion of ors, the talk thread could not be updated with supporting material. Deeply concerned with the biased 'orial volunteers' at Wikipedia who (it would seem) would rather control a narrative than correct information. Upon scrutinizing one ors profile, it became apparent that conflicts had arisen in the past with other users. If this isn't resolved, it puts into question every article on Wikipedia for transparency and integrity.

With the current climate of rampant fake news propaganda and narratives, it's disturbing that it's seems Wikipedia is now too a victim. Although I feel nothing will come of this even though I will share it with those of whom I trust, I await a resolution with anticipation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackest knight99 (talkcontribs) 13:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Blackest knight99 It would seem that you created this account for the expressed purpose of making the above statement; it is difficult to comment on your situation without knowing more about it. I can say that Wikipedia is interested in Verifiability, not truth, as truth is in the eye of the beholder. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about article subjects. If there is incorrect information in an article, we want to know what it is along with any sources to support the claim being made. If it is the reliable sources that are incorrect, then you will need to speak to them. 331dot (talk) 13:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Since I cannot seem to reply to anyone I'm putting this up here:

Due to the nature of the material in question, I was reserved in my initial post. I wrote help desk in regards to the Tommy Robinson page and the false claim that he is far right. When ors asked for evidence it seemed I could no longer the post so I made a new account (this one) in the hope of rectifying the issue. I direct your attention to the recent Sappho award in Danish Parliament speech by Tommy Robinson explaining the nature of the media's attack on him and why he was falsely labeled far right. As I cannot provide a link to the YouTube video, I cannot provide a direct means, but a search on YouTube will find the video in question.

Here is the rationalwiki page on far right politics that determines what it is to be far right

By this very definition, it is demonstrably false to label Tommy Robinson as far right, therefore, the Tommy Robinson page is inaccurate and misleading as I originally stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackest knight99 (talkcontribs) 14:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

If you are using a phone, you may find it easier to use the Desktop version there instead of the mobile version. This should allow you to this section directly instead of creating new sections every time. 331dot (talk) 14:28, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Blackest knight99 If you have independent sources covering his speech describing himself, that might be a possibility for adding to the article(though that would not mean what other sources say could be removed). Otherwise, Wikipedia isn't interested in how someone describes themselves, they are free to do that in other ways(as this man has done). As I said, Wikipedia summarizes what independent source say. If Mr. Robinson doesn't like how sources describe him, he needs to address that with them, or change his views and actions so that they describe him differently. 331dot (talk) 14:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I would add that a user-able wiki is not considered a reliable source here, just as Wikipedia itself is not. 331dot (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I would also add that Wikipedia does not make a claim that the information is true; Wikipedia just presents the information and sources so people can decide for themselves. 331dot (talk) 14:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Blackest knight99: Tommy Robinson (activist) is described as "far right" in two reliable sources (see WP:RS) referenced in the article. Wikipedia does not define "far right" and we do not accept a definition for the term from some random source on the Internet. We just report the way our reliable sources use the term. If you find a reliable source that states that Robinson is not "far right", you may add that to the article, but you may not remove the current referenced usage of the term. Further discussion should take place on the article's talk page, not here. Please try to discuss the issue with other specific ors there to reach a consensus. -Arch dude (talk) 20:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Blackest knight99: You may wish to read Far-right politics to see how the term is used based on a consensus of reliable sources. If you disagree with this description of the term, you may wish to find other reliable sources and open a discussion on that article's talk page to introduce the alternative descriptions. -Arch dude (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Uploading Photo of Robert Ray[]

I'm trying to upload a photo of attorney Robert W. Ray, who is the defense attorney in the Trump impeachment. I found an image published by Fox News, and I'm not sure whether this is public domain or covered by fair use. Do you know what it is? Thanks! One Blue Hat❯❯❯ (talk) 16:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey One Blue Hat. Any photo taken from a commercial website like Fox News is almost certainly copyrighted and cannot be used on Wikipedia, as we do not allow non-free fair use images of living people. GMGtalk 17:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
GreenMeansGo Understood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by One Blue Hat (talkcontribs) 18:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Account/Page removal[]

I would like my account to be deleted, I've read the FAQ but since I haven't made any s I think it makes sense for it to be possible. If not, change my username and make my account hidden. I do not want this account anymore Linkz (talk) 18:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, TheLinkzGamer. For both technical and legal reason., Wikipedia accounts may not be deleted. You can request a Courtesy vanishing. If granted, this will change your user name to a long random string, which has no connection with your former username. But previous signatures, if any, will not be changed. See the linked page for details. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 18:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Watchlist help[]

Hello, I primarily use Wikipedia on mobile. For whatever reason, whenever I check my watchlist, the link to rollback often gets triggered accidentally. How do I remove rollback functionality from my watchlist only? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 22:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets has a useful option: "Require confirmation before performing rollback on mobile devices". --David Biddulph (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
You don't make mobile s so I guess you mean the desktop version of the site on a mobile device. You can add this to your CSS:
 .mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none;}
PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. I realized the ambiguity of my question just now. I’ll give it a try! Viriditas (talk) 23:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Works perfectly, thanks again! Viriditas (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Michael Terraga[]

This new page should be deleted. It does not indicate why Terraga is notable. The sources cited are not reliable sources. The story about Heath is a bonkers conspiracy theory that has been discred. -- Alarics (talk) 22:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

There isn't an article entitled Michael Terraga, and there apparently never has been. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Sorry I spelt it wrong. It's Michael Tarraga. -- Alarics (talk) 23:03, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
There are 3 processes for requesting deletion, see WP:Deletion process. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:15, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Alarics and David Biddulph: Forwarded to BLP/N, the BLP deletion processes are tricky, they have BLPPROD in addition to PROD, immediately instead of WP:NORUSH, and the TOU for an "office action". – (talk) 00:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Search across article and talk?[]

Is there any way to look for articles containing the infobox fraternity template where the talk page doesn't not include that it is part of Wikiproject Fraternities and Sororities?Naraht (talk) 22:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know of any user friendly way to do so. The only way I've found is to use the API to assemble a list of all pages transcluding either template, and then find the difference. Here is your list:
Extended content

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Thjarkur (talk) 00:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Name disambiguation question[]

The article Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics contains this text:

Kari Tolvanen | Lariina | Finland | -107.60

written in wiki source code as:

{{sortname|Kari|Tolvanen}} ||align=left| Lariina ||align=left| {{flagIOC|FIN|1956 Summer}} || -107.60

This can't possibly be Kari Tolvanen, as he was only born five years after the event took place. This should be disambiguated as Kari Tolvanen (equestrian) or something, but how? No such link Kari Tolvanen appears in the article. JIP | Talk 22:59, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Kari Tolvanen is not mentioned in Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics but he is in Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics – Individual eventing and Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics – Team eventing. Template:Sortname shows the code to use: {{sortname|Kari|Tolvanen|dab=equestrian}} or {{sortname|Kari|Tolvanen|Kari Tolvanen (equestrian)}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


I am married to Ray Wylie Hubbard and was checking his Wiki page to see if it was up to date. There were several errors that someone else had ed in. It seems someone who goes by @pumpkinbutter erased everything I added and put back his misinformation. I don't know the ins and outs of how to put stuff on Wiki so I asked a friend to post it for me with updates. If there is anything I wasn't supposed to do please let me know but I don't understand why all of my s have been undone and misinformation from someone who does not have facts straight can override it.I spent a lot of time working on the sources and making sure everything was correct. Thanks! judy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wylieworld (talkcontribs) 23:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Judy! The best place to start would be with the guide located here -> WP:PSCOI. It will help explain the process you (and your friend) should use when you see incorrect information on a page where a conflict of interest might exist (in this case, the subject of the article being your husband). Orvilletalk 23:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Wylieworld: Judy, it looks like there has been some concern going back quite a while regarding your s to the page Talk:Ray_Wylie_Hubbard. Please don't make any more s without following the guidance in the message just above. Thank you! Orvilletalk 00:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Wylieworld: I'll also note that you need to be the only one operating your account/having access to it. 331dot (talk) 00:07, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

January 22[]


I made s in Gadolonium causing fibromyalgia on fibromyalgia page. As well as in Gadolonium page. Both gone. How do I get the truth to the public when people delete it so quickly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gadisbad (talkcontribs) 01:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

How do I cite a news story?[]

I made an on the weedmaps page and was called out for not providing a source. For what its worth, I don't know how to cite my source.

Here is the url for my citation: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeager435 (talkcontribs) 01:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Yeager435: Put the link in between ref tags. For example: <ref>(insert link here)</ref>. CatcherStorm talk 01:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)