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November 25[]

Small calendar template[]


I'd like to add the small monthly calendar template located in the top right of date wikipedia pages (for example, in July 19) to my userpage. I checked the page's source code, and it says the template is {{calendar}}. When I add this, my userpage ends up with a large yearly calendar, and when I try and fix this by setting it to the current month, I get a string of errors in the broken template.

Does anyone have any advice on what's happening and if I'm doing something wrong?

User:Heyoostorm_talk! 01:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Heyoostorm: I just looked at the source code of {{calendar}}. It is setting some of its parameters based on the page name of the page that includes it (?!). You will need to set those parameters yourself to get the result you want on your page. -Arch dude (talk) 01:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Thank you for that info. I was trying to answer the question and got confused on how {{calendar}} knows what to display on pages like July 19 when there are no paramters given to it. RudolfRed (talk) 01:54, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks everyone, I got it to work. User:Heyoostorm_talk! 14:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Are talk pages subject to rules about content and how to address repetitive claims in talk pages?[]

I see that a talk page about a university contains claims of sexism and being a "hotbed for the far-right" [1] with a series of links that do not say that according to talk history. It seems that the issue already has been addressed in the talk page archives [2] but that the user copy pasted its claim in the main talk page, without the answers, for it to stick to online readers. Can be considered an abusive use of talk page or should people give again the same answers to the same claims? Is there something to do about it?

Besides, it is written on the user page that he has been aggressive in the past against others, and he has been against me (I wrote something in the ANI, but with no answer) and I don't want to be on the receiving end of his attacks any more, is there a way to pass on the issue to somebody else (just raising the issue but not being involved so that the user does not attack me)?

Thank you.

Delfield (talk) 10:24, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

See Talk:University of Paris II Panthéon-Assas#Translation help needed. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:36, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
...and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#XIIIfromTOKYO (need an admin who speaks French). --Guy Macon (talk) 14:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Guy Macon: Thank you. The thing is I do not want to be part of the discussion, because of the aggressiveness of the other user, and I do not see how that won't turn ugly. Is there a way to state that I wish to stay out of it? I put back the answers from another user so that I do not have to check this again. --Delfield (talk) 14:41, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
I advise saying that you do not want to be part of the discussion as a response to the ANI notice on your talk page (so it is easy to find) and then staying silent. Let the admins deal with this without you trying to "help". --Guy Macon (talk) 15:16, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
I followed you advice. I understand that you need first to see if the claims are right, but I wish to stress that my original point was that he seems to have made such claims A LOT of times, that they have been answered, but he comes back anyway with those claims in the talk page to people to see, without the answers. And I wondered if there was a policy against that.
Please also note that all you links to the ANI are broken since the user changed the title of your section (for it not to refer to him any more, but to make it look as if it was primarily about the university page). Should one modify the links it my talk page and here? I cannot do it since it is in your text.
He also claims in the ANI that I insulted him, but as you advised, I won't intervene to defend myself, he would double down on his comments if I do anyway.
--Delfield (talk) 22:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Helpful hint: the best way to not discuss something is to not discuss it. Saying that you don't want to discuss it and them writing another paragraph or two isn't an effective way to not discuss it.
"In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade;
And he carries the reminders, of every glove that laid him down,
or cut him till he cried out, in his anger and his shame;
'I am leaving, I am leaving', But the fighter still remains..."
--The Boxer, by Simon & Garfunkel
--Guy Macon (talk) 23:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Guy Macon: Ok, thanks! --Delfield (talk) 17:29, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Linking query[]

Trying to link just the Saracen in Saracenhorns like this: "[[Saracen]]horns" but it's assuming I want the whole word (appears like Saracenhorns). Is there a way to just get the "Saracen" of the word linked? Aza24 (talk) 10:37, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Aza24: Yes, there is, like this: Saracenhorns. It works with other Tags wich break the rendering as well, including <span> Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 11:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Perfect, thank you! Aza24 (talk) 12:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Aza24 and Victor Schmidt mobil: Please just don't do it, per WP:PLA. If Saracenhorn is closely related to Saracens, you can just mention them in the text and then link the topic directly. If it's not, there's no need for the link (similarly, you would not link Lake in 'Los Angeles [Lake]rs', would you?) --CiaPan (talk) 11:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@CiaPan: Ah yes, another random "explanatory supplement" no one has ever heard of :) Don't worry, this isn't the text where talking about. It's a section of a medieval French poem that demonstrates on example of something being discussed – unrelated to Saracens. I only linked because the section mentions "Saracenhorn" at some point and it seems likely to be an unfamiliar word to most readers ("Weep, harps and Saracenhorns, for..."). Aza24 (talk) 12:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Richard Nixon talk page archiving[]

There seems to be a problem with the archiving bot at Talk:Richard Nixon. A lot of the more recent discussions seem to have been added to the first and second archived talk pages. I'd be grateful if someone could have a look at this and hopefully fix it (I don't have a clue how to do it myself). Many thanks, --Viennese Waltz 12:03, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Viennese Waltz, post this at the noticeboard for this sort of thing. The people there will help. This forum is more for general questions. {{u|Squeeps10}} {Talk} Please ping when replying. 22:37, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
OK thanks, I'll go there then. --Viennese Waltz 10:53, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

wikidumps sha1 segments ...[]

Technical details relating to a question about WP database dumps
I downloaded some of the 20200920 bz2 wikidumps and took care of checking their md5 and sha1 sums. To my understanding there is simply no way that the content of the compressed files containing the pages (which I have also eyeballed) could have been corrupted without anyone noticing.
Yet, when you decompress them you will see <sha1>...</sha1> segments containing CDATA inside of every <page>...</page> segment right after the <text bytes="[byte length of the UTF-8 text]" xml:space="...">...</text> (which "bytes" (length) value I have checked for every text segment). 

The sha1 string value which doesn't make any sense to me, because:

* sha1 values are 40 bytes long
* sha1sum Linux utility is telling me it doesn't seem to be right 
let's use as an example:
   <title>The New Woody Woodpecker Show</title>
   <redirect title="Le Nouveau Woody Woodpecker Show" />
     <text bytes="49" xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECTION Le Nouveau Woody Woodpecker Show</text>


276az6ruof7t45y5svax3omeamdxps3 is only 31 bytes long and this is what Linux message digest utilities tell me:

$ echo "#REDIRECTION Le Nouveau Woody Woodpecker Show" | sha1sum f1160df2ed230af750122eb08376dfb9251b8951 -

$ sha1sum "/home/lbrtchx/cmllpz/temp/checkSHA1.txt" f1160df2ed230af750122eb08376dfb9251b8951 /home/lbrtchx/cmllpz/temp/checkSHA1.txt

$ cat "/home/lbrtchx/cmllpz/temp/checkSHA1.txt"

  1. REDIRECTION Le Nouveau Woody Woodpecker Show


So, I have three related questions:

* What do those "sha1" segments inside of each "page" right bellow the "text" segment mean?
* Do you know of any "anatomical" analysis posted officially by wikipedia or anyone else with the explanation of the meaning of the tags they use?
 I could understand as topical such tags as:

  en|User talk
  en|Category talk
  en|Template talk
but I am not so sure about:
  ja|The Ultimate Fighter
  en|Star Wars
  ru|Pirates of the Caribbean
  ja|Pokémon the Series
are those colons in the titles officially used to define general topical matters such as Categories or anyone can just type a colon in a title to a message? or both? and in the last case which topics are owned by wikipedia and which aren't?
* There is also some funky mark up they use inside of their text segment which is xml-ish but not exactly xml. All I've heard was that such mark up is used as part of the processing through a mysql database. Could you safely use that kind of mark up to parse the document's segments?


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Albretch Mueller (talkcontribs) 12:09, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Albretch Mueller. This is a page for help with ing, and few people who inhabit here know much about database dumps. I suggest you ask at VPT. (Note that if you start a line with a space, it comes out preformatted, so please don't do that for the textual part of your question). --ColinFine (talk) 12:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

SVG upload problem: unsafe css[]

Hello, I have used the online tool Vectr to and improve an existing Wikimedia SVG file (of a geographic map) but when I use the Upload Wizard I get this message: "found unsafe css in the style element of uploaded svg file". I used the Vectr tool previously to and successfully upload SVG files. Is there a simple fix? Is there a simple tool to import and export a clean Wikimedia-compliant version? I looked at using Inkscape but it seems complicated to install and use. I tried LibreOffice Draw but struggled to ungroup everything. Could I send the SVG to someone who is an expert who could quickly load and correct it? Thanks for any assistance you can offer, Douglal (talk) 12:41, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

You might want to go to and look at the section that says "Web Apps: The idea with these tools is that you have an SVG on your machine and you upload it to this web app to optimize this one SVG."
If one of the tools works for you -- and especially if one of the tools reveals all of CSS in the SVG file -- please post your results here. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:41, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks Guy Macon. I used the SVGOMG tool with all its default clean-up settings and I had to turn on "Remove style elements" which fixed the problem. I've just uploaded the new slimmed down SVG to Wikimedia. Perfect! Cheers, Douglal (talk) 14:29, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

UVB-76: Revisions[]

25 November 2020 s to UVB-76 were remove "because it did not appear constructive"

The first air date references make an unsubstantiated claim that UVB-76 was first heard in 1973, there is no proof of this and none is given by the "source" The claim is hearsay and has no basis in fact, because no evidence of this is provided to the reader.

The YouTube video is a fake, unless proven if in fact it was from 2 August 1976. The YouTube poster has never replied back to any "its a fake" comments nor does this YouTube poster have any other videos to back up this claim.

Keeping these poorly created "references" degrades the Wikipedia reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Your s were removed (IMO) because they amounted to 'talking' within an article. This is not an encyclopedic way of dealing with perceived issues. If you have concerns about the content of an article, please start a discussion at its talk page – in this case at Talk:UVB-76 but please be sure to check the contents of the talk page for any related or previous discussions. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Charlie Jones (Musician)[]

Hello I represent Charlie Jones - Charlie Jones (musician) The site says it needs additional citation for verification Can you pleas elet me know what you need as we would very much like to sort it out asap! Many thanks for your help Carole Say — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helrecs (talkcontribs) 15:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Helrecs As noted in the notice on the article, independent reliable sources are needed to support the article's content. If you have such sources, please offer them on the article talk page as a formal request(click for instructions). Please also see your user talk page for important information about formal disclosures you may need to make. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
(e/c) See Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles. However, you should not really be ing the article at all as you have a conflict of interest, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. --Viennese Waltz 16:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Helrecs, you can discuss improvements to the article at Charlie Jones (musician). Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Correct link is Talk:Charlie Jones (musician). Joseph2302 (talk) 19:47, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Andreas Roloff citation[]

Hello, I recently created Andreas Roloff by translating it from German to English. I made a mistake in carrying over the citations. I thought they would all transfer over, but I think I did it incorrectly. Is there an easier way than having to go through the article and change every last number box to the proper citation? Is there a bot that will do this automatically? Thank you. Thriley (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Thriley. I'm not sure what the problem is, but I suspect based on the contours of your question that there isn't one. Footnotes are automatically numbered in the text when they populate from the spots where there are <ref>...</ref> tags. So, for example, if you left out the citation that was in the original German article that had been numbered footnote 6, but placed the citations from the original that were numbered 7 through 100 from that original, those would automatically then display as 6 through 99. If I'm missing the issue, though, please advise. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:00, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

suspicions template[]

Template:DriverDB driver appears to be a system to generate external links to a commercial website and these links are very valuable for SEO purposes. I noticed it today on the Lewis Hamilton article. I do not know what is the protocol for deletion of a template, so I thought I would ask about it here. This looks abusive. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 19:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Jtbobwaysf: It is used over 1000 pages and has existed since 2011. I don't think it is being used for spamming. You could start a discussion on the template's talk page and ping some of the ors of the template that are still active. Or you can ask on the talk page of one of the article's using it and perhaps someone can explain its use. If you feel strongly that it should be deleted, the venue is WP:TFD RudolfRed (talk) 23:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Estella Warren[]

I’m not a fan of Estella Warren, the actress. I do like the info about her. I don’t like the picture of her. It looks like she’s in distress or being arrested by the police. Can someone change the photo If Estella to a more current one, that shows a better image of her, please? 20:12, 25 November 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Hello, IP user. Anybody can replace the photo - provided they have a replacement with the required free licence. The only other picture currently in Wikimedia Commons is File:Estella Warren 2008.jpg, which doesn't look like an improvement. Unless somebody contacts Warren or her agent, and asks for a better photo to be donated by the copyright holder, the only way it's going to happen is if somebody gets an opportunity to snap her, and chooses to release their photo and upload it to Commons. This is why so many articles have either no photo or a poort one: Wikipedia interprets the laws of copyright very carefully. --ColinFine (talk) 22:36, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
( conflict) IP or, if you have an image that is in the public domain, void of copyright, or meets fair use criteria, I suggest starting a discussion at Talk:Estella Warren. Relevant links: Wikipedia:Image use policy, Wikipedia:Fair use criteriaTenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Given what the article says about her arrest and subsequent behaviour, the exisiting photo would seem entirely appropriate.--Shantavira|feed me 12:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Shantavira, the choice of photographs in article should not reflect moral judgment of the subject, for pretty obvious WP:NPOV reasons. Ideally, we should use a neutral photo for everyone. In practice, the available material may constrain us; suitably-licensed photos of criminals are more likely to include degrading mugshots (see WP:MUG) than flattering red-carpet staged photoshoots. (Case in point: Al Capone does not have a mugshot as lead picture.) For actresses/actors, finding a posed, well-lit image is usually not very hard, but then there's the licensing thingie. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

November 26[]

Off-Wikipedia ing question[]

Hello! My name is Jason - I'm a longtime wikipedia or who's only ever done minor tweaks to articles here and there and never really joined the ing community. I didn't have an account (or one I remembered log in info for) until today. I'm an administrator of Weezerpedia, however, which borrows nearly all its style and formatting from you all. I have a few questions about infoboxes and templates that I can't quite seem to figure out on my own. Some are quite simple (why are those phantom line breaks appearing at the top of this page?) and others are a little more complicated (can I make a template that will populate info into various other templates, most of which have differing formatting? For an example, see all the different places I'm currently manually entering in the same info about album reviews.) I apologize if this isn't the proper venue for asking a question like this. If anyone is game to lend me a hand, I'd be immensely thankful! Sincerely and gratefully, Jasondanielboxer (talk) 00:17, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Jasondanielboxer I would also post this at WP:RDC if I were you. {{u|Squeeps10}} {Talk} Please ping when replying. 00:25, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Squeeps10 - thank you! --Jasondanielboxer (talk) 00:29, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Of course! Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you Jasondanielboxer. {{u|Squeeps10}} {Talk} Please ping when replying. 00:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Where can I find a list of users who got "Senior Vanguard Editor" badge?[]

Where can I find a list of users who got "Senior Vanguard Editor" badge? Man Floor (talk) 02:55, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Man Floor: You could go to the pages for Template:Senior Vanguard Editor Userbox, Template:Senior Vanguard Editor topicon, and Template:Senior Vanguard Editor, and click on "What links here" on the sidebar. Set your namespace parameter to "User" from the dropdown menu and you can see which users have it on their user pages. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Excellent, how to hide these repeated user names like this: IMAGE ?

I only want Senior Vanguard Editor Badge, why are you mentioning Userbox, topicon in your answer instead of just badge users which I exactly seeking for it? Man Floor (talk) 04:23, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Not sure which one you mean by badge. If you are not looking for users of the userbox or topicon then just ignore those and just look at the other one. Also, know that the service awards are just for fun and are self-awarded, so there will be many many more users who meet that criteria than who have the award. RudolfRed (talk) 04:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Man Floor, because they're arbitrarily given and different ors choose which one they want. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:50, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

How do I make a table of data that pulls data from other articles??[]

For example, there's an article on Hydrogen and it has an attribute "atomic number = 1" and state = gas. Another article for Helium has "atomic number = 2" and state = gas. And so on for the rest of the elements. How do I make a report or table of data that lists all the elements in column 1, atomic number in column 2, and state in column 3? The data has to be dynamically linked, meaning that when the data is changed either in the report on in the article, it must also update on the other. Is this possible? Thanks, Kenny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennymcmack (talkcontribs) 04:50, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Kennymcmack: This is possible with Wikidata.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:54, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

ThanksKennymcmack (talk) 05:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Kennymcmack: Yep, Wikidata is the right approach, but may require a fair amount of work. Wikidata is a database. The item of interest must be identified, which may require that you define a new data type in Wikidata. You then must add that data type in the wikidata record for each affected article, and then replace the raw text value in each article with a link to the Wikidata object instead. This will likely be easy if those articles are using a template that includes the data of interest. But all this work is useful beyond your immediate goal, because it allows other folks to use your new database item to make sophisticated queries. It is also the case that other ors will no longer be able to change the items in the "source" articles, but will be required to modify the Wikidata item instead. -Arch dude (talk) 18:32, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't like the new Template:Infobox reality competition season[]

Inserting a name for a show that's different from the name of the page is impossible. Take a look at: X Factor (Romanian season 9) #eXtra Factor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsterofain (talkcontribs) 08:23, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Taika Waititi[]

Dear Wikipedia Editors

As a proud Kiwi(New Zealander)seeing Taika Waititi, winner of the 2020 Oscar for adapted screenplay, for his movie Jojo Rabbit, cred as being from the United States (of America).

On Taikas' personal Wikipedia page he is correctly identified as being born in New Zealand (Aotearoa).

I hope this helps to correct this small error.


Kenneth van Bergen — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

(I added a title to this question.) Hello Kenneth. Hopefully you'll return to this page and see this reply. It's not clear to me from your message what your issue is with the Jojo Rabbit article. The article doesn't describe Waititi as American. It does describe the film as an American/New Zealand/Czech Republic co-production, which is correct. If you could clarify your concerns it would be very helpful. Finally, you landed on the wrong Wikipedia page for this type of query. This page is for queries on how to use Wikipedia. The best place to discuss your concerns is on the article's talk page. You could also probably discuss it at the entertainment reference desk. Best wishes, --Viennese Waltz 10:43, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh wait, are you talking about the infobox in the article Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay? When it says "Country: United States" in that infobox, it's not referring to Waititi's nationality. It's referring to the country in which the award is given. --Viennese Waltz 10:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

When to remove unreferenced content, rather than tag with cn[]

Hi. I came across these s today. I am not sure what the IP or's issue is, but I don't think they are right to delete statements from the two articles without giving interested ors opportunity to provide missing sources. It isn't clear whether the IP or believes those statements are false - they look plausible to me? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:47, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer: Wikipedia:Citation needed gives me the impression that if the information lacking sources is plausible/uncontroversial/etc (unless about a BLP), adding/keeping the {{cn}} tag is preferable to removing the content. WP:FAILEDVERIFICATION doesn't seem to provide any further information (to me, at least). In this case, I agree that the content looks plausible, so I'm not sure whether removing it all was the best option or not. Maybe discuss it with the IP to see what they think? Seagull123 Φ 13:06, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Per WP:BURDEN, the burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the or who adds or restores material. I think there is often good reason to remove uncited claims even if you know the claim is true - for example, with the aim of tidying up articles as part of bigger work, maintaining a good standard, and defending them from slowly accumulating more dubious stuff. Adding information that is true and useful but not cited is not necessarily a net gain for the encyclopaedia. That's my 2c.
If someone adds an uncited claim to an article I watch, and it's definitely something that would improve the article, I will generally do the work and try to find a citation for it. But the onus is not on other ors to do this work. Popcornfud (talk) 13:17, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
@Popcornfud: It seems to me that they've been over-zealous, removing almost every paragraph that doesn't have an inline citation, which ignores or is a mis-interpretation of WP:MINREF. The article has a bibliography section. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:32, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Curb Safe Charmer, to be quite honest, I haven't looked at this specific case and instead just barged in to give my 2 cents on removing uncited claims generally. Sorry about that. This or may have been out of line. Popcornfud (talk) 14:01, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Submit an article about an actor[]

Hi, I would like to submit an article about an actor, if you could advise how to create or submit one, I'll be grateful.


Usman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musmanaman (talkcontribs) 12:07, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Musmanaman, info can be found at your first article. I would, however, comment that making a page is one of the harder things to do on wikipedia, and you'd be better served ing a few articles to get an understanding first. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. It takes much effort, time, and practice. You will greatly increase your chances of success if you first spend time ing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. You should also use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia.
An actor merits a Wikipedia article if they receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actor. Not every actor merits an article, but you truly feel that the one you wish to write about does, you may use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by another or, before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia. This way you find out any problems first.
If you work for or represent this actor, you must review the conflict of interest and paid ing policies for information on formal disclosures you may be required to make. 331dot (talk) 12:15, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
@Musmanaman: The central issue is notability: See WP:N and especially WP:NACTOR. A subject must be notable, or its article will be removed from Wikipedia. We remove more than 100 articles each day. Please do not waste any time on this effort (yours or ours) unless you first convince yourself that the actor meets our notability guidelines. If the actor is in fact notable, we can help you fix any other problems, but the most perfect article ever written will still be deleted if the subject is not notable. See WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 17:58, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

See: Evelyn Knight (Singer)[]

Every time I try to load a photo of Evelyn I keep getting notices that I've not provided sufficient licensing info, despite mentioning the photo came from her personal archives with cr given to Bruno of Hollywood ©1946. I am Evelyn's daughter and owner of her print, broadcast, and recording assets. Evelyn died in 2008. Bruno of Hollywood closed for business in the 60s and Bruno himself died in 1987. I'm not trying to monetize Mom's image, I just want to replace the one already there with a better one.

Advice please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightfamily (talkcontribs) 18:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Knightfamily, this is a matter for Wikimedia Commons, where you have uploaded the image and where a bot has proposed its deletion as lacking adequate information on its copyright status. You should discuss it there, not here at English Wikipedia; perhaps at their Help desk. The issue is not the ownership of the photo, it's ownership of copyright in the photo, which will belong to the photographer (or their heirs) unless there's a contract that says otherwise. Maproom (talk) 21:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Citing an image that I was given permission to use[]

I was given permission to use an image by its owner, but the image is neither mine nor copyright-free. How should I cite it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPD10113519 (talkcontribs) 20:50, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@JPD10113519: See WP:DONATEIMAGE for instructions on how the copyright owner can verify the permission. even though it mentions images already online, I think you can use the same form/email method for images not online yet. RudolfRed (talk) 20:59, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Also, what do you mean by "its owner"? Ownership of a physical or digital copy of a picture does not give you any right to license its use; instead, such right resides in the holder of the copyright. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
@JPD10113519: "Permission" is irrelevant, and "permission" from anyone other than the copyright owner has no meaning. The copyright owner (not you) must license the image to us (and everyone) with a CC-BY-SA license. If we have no such license from the copyright owner, then the only alternative is a free use rationale, which is highly restrictive (see WP:FREEUSE) but which requires no permission from the copyright owner or anyone else. -Arch dude (talk) 06:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@JPD10113519: Arch dude meant to say "fair use rationale, which is highly restrictive (see WP:FAIRUSE)", and which means non-free use. —teb728 t c 09:52, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to determine if a template was placed with subst?[]

I was browsing through WP:TFD and noticed several templates proposed with the reason that they are not used. OK, makes sense. My question is, if a template is always subsituted and never transcluded, is there any way to tell how much it is being used? For example, {{submit}} is always placed with {{subst:submit}}. Is there any way to know how much this template is used? RudolfRed (talk) 21:30, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: I think you have to look for pieces of code from the transcluded template. Many templates (e.g., the Uw-* warning templates) include their name in an HTML comment. E.g., to see uses of {{Uw-vandalism4}} in User talk namespace, search for insource:"<!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 -->" like this. Unfortunately {{Submit}} (actually {{AfC submission/submit}}) doesn't include such a comment, so I think you're stuck with searching for the code it produces, like this (may not cover all possibilities, but I think this is most of it). Of course, it would still include results where people entered the same code manually, or perhaps other templates producing similar code. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:27, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 17:42, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

November 27[]

Bill Bean Ministries for GOD[]

How do I pull up in my search the page(s) I made.... One is in my sandbox and the other was on the talk page...

I need to create an actual page for my boss.... Did I do the pages right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warriorprincess4christ (talkcontribs) 04:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

There are several issues, starting with an obvious conflict of interest on your part. You are strongly discouraged from creating or ing articles where you have a compensated relationship or other external relationship. Additionally, Wikipedia articles must be sourced to independent references and may not be promotional in character. Acroterion (talk) 04:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Further reading: Wikipedia:Paid ing, Wikipedia:Conflict of interestTenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@Warriorprincess4christ: The central issue is notability: See WP:N. A subject must be notable, or its article will be removed from Wikipedia. We remove more than 100 articles each day. Please do not waste any time on this effort (yours or ours) unless you first convince yourself that the subject meets our notability guidelines. If the subject is in fact notable, we can help you fix any other problems, but the most perfect article ever written will still be deleted if the subject is not notable. See WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 17:58, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Warriorprincess4christ, you can find all your s, including articles and pages you created, from your "Contributions" button (top right of the screen in the default skin).
Looking at your sandbox User:Warriorprincess4christ/sandbox/Bill Bean Ministries for GOD, I think you may hve a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Please understand that a Wikipedia article 1) does not belong to the subject, 2) is not for the benefit of the subject, or for the subject to reach a wider audience, 3) is not controlled by the subject and may be ed by anybody except the subject and their associates, 4) may therefore end up saying something very different from what the subject would like, and 5) should contain little or no content that comes from the subject: it should be almost entirely based on what people who have no connection with the subject, and have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. (This last is part of the reason for the notability criteria mentioned above by Arch dude.) --ColinFine (talk) 13:13, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Leaps by Bayer page[]

Hi there,

My name is Seán Gallen, I work as a copywriter for TLGG. Our client Leaps by Bayer would like to create their own Wikipedia page and I wanted to know if that would be attractive to Wikipedia, whether I should write it myself or request an article. I just wanted to check the process before we commit time and energy to writing the page. You can find out more about our client here:

Thanks and all the best,

Seán — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean Gallen 88 (talkcontribs) 10:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

You should start by assessing whether your client meets the organization notability guidelines. In short, this means finding multiple sources that simultaneously (1) deal with the subject at length, (2) are reliable, and (3) are independent of the subject. In practice, for companies, 99% of the time this means articles from reputable newspapers; note that interviews from the CEO etc. are not considered independent of the subject. If you cannot find any such sources, it means Leaps by Bayer is not an appropriate subject for a Wikipedia article (at least yet), so do not even start writing. From a very quick online search, I found no adequate sources.
If you do find such sources, you can write an article draft. Go to WP:AFC and follow the steps. You should write the article only from the content of independent reliable sources (that is, meeting points (2) and (3) above, although at this step sources failing (1) are acceptable), and cite those sources in support of the assertions. You may carefully use sources related to the subject but only for uncontroversial points (for instance, the company's address or founding date).
You should also take care to adhere to a neutral point of view. The tone of a Wikipedia article should feel more like a microwave oven instruction sheet than a promotional brochure: cold, hard facts, no emotion.
If your draft article is declined, pay attention to the reason given by the reviewer: you should address it before resubmitting a new draft, otherwise it will be declined again. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Sean Gallen 88. I recommend you also read the paragraph I posted in response the previous item on this page, #Bill Bean Ministries for GOD, as it may affect what you choose to do. --ColinFine (talk) 13:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

RAF Fauld explosion[]

The geolocation/GPS pin on the map for this article is wrong. When looking at the page it shows the location to be in East Staffordshire, whereas it's much further south and in Lichfield. This is weird, because if you click the coords for geohack[3] or copy them into Google Earth, it takes you to the exact correct location.

I don't know how this works - can somebody have a look? Is it unique to this article, or could it be a bigger issue? Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I have never ted wikipedia[]

so I'd be doing this for the first time.

Partially-relevant tangent; the gist is "How do I write about criticism of the LGBTQ+ movement from inside its own house?"

One of my main issues with the lgbtq movement is, as a gay man, I know it just does not reflect the real public opinion among gay men, or what their issues are.

Actually, a big part of the alleged "LGBTQ" movement is gay journalism. Which is journalism by gays who are employees of the mainstream media. Or, alternatively, you have special gay publications like The Advocate. However, a huge number of gay charities and political organizations are funded by corporations. Big Pharma makes astronomical profits off of gay men with HIV who need regular drugs. These drugs are priced unusually high compared to nearly all other drugs most people get. This results in corporations acting like an enormous special interest and exerting such extreme control via their funding of charities over the LGBTQ movement that issues pertaining to healthcare access among gay men, for instance, while they are extremely important issues to the lives of many gay men, simply are not talked about by a single member of the mainstream media or any of the gay charities. The illegal drug scene also plays a role. Where members of the LGBTQ movement all do crystal meth and exclude anyone who doesn't. And this results in Big Pharma exerting indirect control over the LGBTQ movement and over gay journalists.

I have at times -- especially before Obamacare -- visited gay men living in wretched conditions due to them not being able to work without losing their healthcare insurance and thus being forced on SSI which would give them incomes of only $800 a month which was barely enough to live on. They were also being warehoused in affordable housing projects run by well paid politically connected lesbians, and it was clear their lot in life was to be used as cash cows for Big Pharma and these lesbians who had connections. Whose money made "taking care" of gay men was given to them as political patronage, in return for their loyalty to various political players. And the government money these gay men "brought in" was essentially being controlled by lesbians and doled out to political loyalists. This is not unlike how Mass Incarceration creates huge numbers of jobs that are ultimately doled out to feminist loyalists who then play a key role in pushing for increasingly draconian criminal justice policies.

It is shocking to see what really occurs and shocking to see how badly the mainstream media simply refuses to cover these issues. And outrageous and disgusting to see how much the priorities of corporate america alone dictate these media cover ups of such issues.

How can I write about it, though? There are very few sources I could quote -- perhaps I could quote myself. I'm a victim of some of the criminal racketeering that goes on in the gay community, perpetrated by corporations, with attempted murders done on me to try to cover up what I knew. But one of the problems is the culture of silence in the media and in mainstream academia.

Another problematic issue. The LGBTQ movement fails to acknowledge the enormous role played by gender presentation and affect among the gay community. And I can speak for gay males. A very large portion of gay men are what they call 'straight acting,' meaning you cannot tell or can barely tell, through their mannerisms of speech, that they are even gay. And this is an extremely important topic. It looks like the gays who are more flaming or effeminate in mannerism and even gait somehow have more feminized brains with respect to speech and a few other issues. Such feminized brains being a characteristic that's "on top of" and independent of what your sexual orientation actually is.

The current LGBTQ movement which is currently bought off and bribed by corporations and who all spout the same mainstream narrative, they tend to be the more flaming gays who don't blend in. Very masculine gay men are excluded from the conversation for the most part. But, also, very feminine gays are also excluded. It is as if corporate america decided who they want to "allow in," and they want gays who are just gay sounding enough so you can tell they are gay and they are ghettoized as gay by mainstream society and social scenes. But who are only subtly gay sounding, so they still have somewhat of a mainstream appeal.

It is as if this is not a grass roots movement but a corporate sponsored one with employees chosen by big whigs in corporate america.

Gay men who are masculine and "blend in" can have troubles with women coming onto them and it being embarrassing. Also, a ton of the alleged intolerance and homophobia among straight men is actually intolerance of gay men who are overtly gay in their mannerisms, e.g., who are "flaming" or "geeky" sounding. Even worse, many straight men are not averse to flirting with masculine gay men, or sometimes playing games with them where they fake being gay via body language all the while luring them into making the first move so they can go insist they are straight and reject them. It is also very unclear, if you are a masculine gay man, how many of such men are actually closeted bi, or at the very least open minded enough to engage in some amount of sexual play with other men, however casual or limited.

Anyway could someone give me some tips as to how to best write about this? Also, this is an inquiry to the help desk yet looks like the ting of an article. Perhaps I need to hit "publish changes" and then see what happens. Are there any people who go filter what you ?

I would want to publish a whole section on opposition to the (mainstream) LGBTQ rights campaigns from within the LGBTQ community, as a whole separate category.

One other issue. Transgender movement. This movement got a jump start right after the passage of Obamacare, going from zero to sixty in the course of less than a year. Previously, transgender issues were almost never discussed by the mainstream media. Suddenly they become discussed all the time, to the point to which they move to the front of the line and drown out all other LGBTQ issues. It is obvious, Obamacare changed insurance coverage in such a way so that the healthcare industry was suddenly able to realize vastly higher profits and revenues from transgender issues compared to before. And this and only this appears to have driven the sudden and widespread propelling of the transgender movement into the mainstream.

As a consumer movement controlled by the healthcare interests who happen to be PRODUCERS not consumers. This is as bad as Toyota deciding to be "Ralph Nader" and them being the ones who found the magazine "Consumer reports." We are a hugely litigious society, yet I have never heard of any transgender movement out there which seeks to ensure the bad doctors who perform lousy or botched surgeries are kept from the profession, and that patients are able to sue if they had their surgery botched and are no longer able to have sex properly.

I am not opposed to transgenderism in theory, but I am sure concerned that due diligence is not being exercised by the mainstream media, and concerned that patient exploitation could be sometimes going on, amid a mad rush for healthcare profits and revenues derived from transgenderism. I am concerned that mainstream academia may have a culture that refuses to rock the boat anytime any issue salient to healthcare and big pharma revenues are concerned, and that they will drop the ball regarding failing to be proper consumer advocates for transgender or potentially transgender individuals.

As far as I am concerned, there is no transgender consumer movement out there. There seems to be no acknowledgement of the healthcare industry as a hugely profitable special interest potentially driving and dominating the discussion of trans issues, and no acknowledgement that the concerns of transgenders as consumers of healthcare products should be regarded as separate and potentially in opposition to the interests of healthcare producers in this same arena.

And this, I note, is the exact same concern I have regarding the LGBTQ movement as it pertains to HIV positive gay men. Where, again, the enormous healthcare revenues derived from HIV create a powerful corporate lobby which captures and controls the LGBTQ movement, and prevents it from ever being a consumer led movement.

Indeed, I want to note that, many years ago, maybe around 2013, I looked up the board of GLAAD. 80 percent of GLAAD board members were working as Vice Presidents or Managers for Pharmaceutical Companies at that time. I remember commenting on that repeatedly online, as being outrageous. And making GLAAD hardly deserving to be considered part of the LGBTA movement but a corporate lobby instead. They since changed the composition of their board so it no longer is so heavily skewed towards Big Pharma, but still. I think it's outrageous that they could be so controlled by Big Pharma and not a single mainstream media publication would ever call them on it.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmschlom (talkcontribs) 13:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry Dmschlom I doubt you will find many here willing to plough through the frankly enormous wall of text you have posted above. If you need actual help with ing Wikipedia, please explain briefly what we can assist you with. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:07, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@Dmschlom: Wikipedia is crowdsourced by thousands of anonymous ors (about 100,000 in the last 30 days). We have no mechanism, and no desire, to verify the identities or qualifications of these ors, including you. Therefore we require that all material in all articles to be verifible in a reliable published source. If those sources are biased, then Wikipedia is biased. The only way to fight this is to add material from a wide spectrum of reliable sources. Since you feel that our problem in these articles is a bias toward the LGBTQ journalists' point of view, this will be difficult for you. We are not interested in your personal point of view. -Arch dude (talk) 16:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Adding a photo to my page[] Iam tryimg to add this photo to my page, please help. Frank Rothwell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:ED81:6C00:907D:AB46:A3AD:6B2A (talk) 13:33, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

What difficulty are you encountering? There are no other s by the IP address used to post here outside of this thread. If you go to the link you have posted, you will find a pre-formatted link by clicking on "use this file" by the Wikipedia logo in the toolbar toward the top of the page. However, you should also read WP:COI and make the necessary declarations. Eagleash (talk) 13:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Conversion Template Question[]

How do I use the convert template to achieve the following text: 16.5-acre (6.7-ha)? All my attempts have yielded error messages.

Many thanks

Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

{{convert|16.5|acres|ha|adj=on}} gets close: 16.5-acre (6.7 ha)
Not sure that the hyphen between 6.7 and 'ha' in your example is correct.
Trappist the monk (talk) 14:35, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I was using acre not acres. Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:42, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

False Article[]

Tell me how can I removed the false article from — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mutalib bd (talkcontribs) 16:05, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mutalib bd: We will not remove an article about a notable subject. If an article contains unreferenced incorrect information, the article to remove it. If the information is referenced, do not remove it, but you may add contradicting information if you have a reference. You may discuss the article with other ors on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 16:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@Mutalib bd: An inappropriate like this [4] is likely to lead to a block though. Theroadislong (talk) 16:27, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Mutalib bd. You seem to be trying to take an article about a cricketer and turn it into an article about somebody else: that is not the way to do it. If you have reliable sources about the other person, enough to establish that they are notable, then a separate article can be written --ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
To be clear the created an attack page with derogatory content about someone with the same name. Theroadislong (talk) 16:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

contest speedy deletion[]

Hello, I created my Wikipedia page and it was tagged for speedy deletion. I don't know why this was done but I spent all day creating it and for ANYONE to come in and be able to delete is UNFAIR to the user that user account is not secure. I need ALL the content I created delivered to me and placed back on your website. Again, This is completely unfair that you do not secure your users page and anyone can just come and delete. Please contact me immediately with further instructions on how to contest this deletion and retrieve all my content for page titled JONNI VEGAZ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonniVegaz (talkcontribs) 16:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

JonniVegaz; First of all, your username implies that you are Jonni Vegaz. Writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged as it constitutes a COI. As I am not an administrator, I cannot view the deleted material but I can see it was deleted as promotional material, suggesting that you had written about yourself in an advertising way. I should also remind you that Wikipedia does not have 'pages', but rather articles, which should be sourced and written in an encyclopaedic way. If you want to write about yourself, your user page is a good place to start. Yours is User:JonniVegaz. NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 16:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@JonniVegaz: There is nothing "unfair" about it. We have policies and guidelines that apply to all articles, and these policies and guidelines were applied to your article. Please learn a little about these policies and guidelines before you put any more effort into ing Wikipedia. Start with WP:NOT. You should also read WP:OWN: one important policy is that articles are specifically not "secured". If you do not agree with our policies, then you should find a site that is better suited to your needs. -Arch dude (talk) 16:58, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Arch Dude it is unfair that I was not notified prior to deletion to at to have the chance to or at least learn specifically what part of my article was flagged for adjustments to be made accordingly, especially when article took a long time to write. How do I retrieve the content? @nonsencicalsystem I understand, How do I retrieve deleted content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonniVegaz (talkcontribs) 17:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Please advise at your earliest. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonniVegaz (talkcontribs) 17:43, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

JonniVegaz You were notified on your user talk page. If an article is marked for speedy deletion and an administrator determines that it meets the criteria described in the speedy deletion notice, it may be deleted without delay or discussion. Speedy deletions are intended for articles or pages that are clearly inappropriate. In looking at your deleted content, I concur with the deletion. You may request a review at Deletion review, but I think the deletion will be upheld. 331dot (talk) 17:52, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
If you want to tell the world about yourself, you should use social media or some other alternative forum where that is permitted. See WP:AUTO. 331dot (talk) 17:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I see where I made the mistake in my article. I will adjust accordingly. Is there any was to submit for pre approval to insure it has be revised correctly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonniVegaz (talkcontribs) 19:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@JonniVegaz: You can follow the steps at WP:YFA. This will show you how to create and submit a "Draft" article, which will then be reviewed constructively, as opposed to the fairly peremptory way we deal with an unacceptable article that suddenly appears in main space. I suggest that you start by looking at several existing articles of the same general subject type (hip-hop artists?) and then structure your article the same way as one that looks good to you. However, before you do anything else, is is critical that you make certain your subject is notable by our definition (WP:N). If it is not, then your article will not be acceptable, even if it is perfect in every other regard: see WP:AMOUNT, and maybe WP:TOOSOON. -Arch dude (talk) 19:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I have taken your recommendation into consideration and have created another page. At your earliest convenience , Please review and let me know if I have followed your instructions accordingly. Please excuse my hostility earlier I just had spend a lot of time on it and when I saw it was deleted I panicked. Looking forward to your feedback. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonniVegaz (talkcontribs) 22:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@JonniVegaz: Each of the 100,000 or so active ors, including me and you, are unpaid volunteers and each of us does whatever tasks we feel like doing, with essentially no hierarchy and no central coordination. I like to answer help desk questions, but I don't particularly like to review drafts. When you submit a draft for review, one of the ors who does like to do reviews will eventually decide to review it. -Arch dude (talk) 04:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


Just wanted let you know that I used to donate to Wikipedia as I valued what it gave and the principles behind it. However in recent years the site offers more and more biased opinions rather than pure neutral information. Where has the objectivity gone? Very disappointing. Cannot rely on anything read on this site anymore.

Just letting you know why I am not donating anymore, as you keep sending me emails asking for donations.

With regards,

Anna Hirvilammi — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:40, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

We cannot help you with generalities. If you see a specific problem in a specific article, then comment on the problem on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 16:49, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not claim to be free of bias, as everyone has biases. As Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, any bias in sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. The sources are presented to the reader so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves as to bias. If you just want to be told what you want to hear, this isn't the place for you.
Donations are collected by the Wikimedia Foundation that operates the computers Wikipedia is on; we have nothing to do with it, so donating is your decision. Wikipedia does not send emails for donations as far as I am aware. 331dot (talk) 17:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Someone is threatening to remove a page and is asking for money = extortion! How to report this?[]

Help, an evildoer is threatening to remove a page and is trying to extort money from the person the page is describing (even though, of course, that person didn't create or his own page). How do I report this bad person so he no longer has access to in Wikipedia and is blacklisted? --- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reiff (talkcontribs) 19:17, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Reiff: What page is this regarding and how did you receive the threat? If the page is deleted without consensus, you can go to WP:DRV to ask for it to be restored. RudolfRed (talk) 19:27, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@Reiff and RudolfRed: please see Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:49, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Wrong and Hate information in the Etymology section[]

Muhil.malaiyaman (talk) 19:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)Very false statements in the Etymology section about the caste of parkavakulam or Udayar. Some people purposefully ed the wiki page and spreading the hate information against the Udayar caste . Udayar or Parkavakulam or Nathaman people are not potters or Pott makers. It's a wrong information. They are currently doing agriculture and most of the people of this community are big landlords. That's what they are calling as Udayar. Please revert the changes in the below wiki link

Discuss this on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 19:29, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

User page which offers s for pay[]

Today I came across a user page which states that the user is willing to "consider paid-to- opportunities". I know paid ing is allowed (with proper disclosures), but is soliciting such work on a user's page okay? I'm genuinely unsure and this looked like the right place to ask. (talk) 19:28, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:User_pages says that "Editors may not use their userspace to solicit compensation for their Wikipedia contributions" but I am not sure how that is generally interpreted. RudolfRed (talk) 19:33, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
This or has been busy at Kipsigis people which is not a good advertisement for Wikipedia ing skills. I suspect the comment is made more in hope than expectation.  Velella  Velella Talk   20:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
So consensus is that it's probably not okay, but also probably not a big deal? I can dig it. Thanks! (talk) 22:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

wrong photo of Marco d’amico[]

there is a wrong photo in the article of Marco d’amico — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:43, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

There is no photo in the Marco D'Amico article. Your link is to the Marco D'Amore article. -Arch dude (talk) 19:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Where to suggest a new script[]

Is there a common place where one can suggest a new script, a place frequented by ors who are interested in writing useful scripts? ―Mandruss  21:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mandruss: Try Wikipedia:WikiProject_JavaScript. RudolfRed (talk) 21:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll try that. ―Mandruss  22:11, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

How do I get rid of Young Kidd’s notability guideline[]

I’m trying to figure out how to get rid or Young Kidd’s notability guideline. If someone could help me do it or show me how that would be appreciated. — Preceding Wikior6557 comment added by Wikior6557 (talkcontribs) 23:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Wikior6557: Does Young Kidd meet the criteria at WP:NMUSIC? If so, the box at the top may be removed. I suggest starting a discussion on the artcle's talk page to get consensus on that. RudolfRed (talk) 00:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

November 28[]

Weird login problem[]

I am getting an error when trying to log in on some projects. I logged out, rebooted and logged in again but it didn't help

Error message: "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form."

Error occurs on: Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote

Normal unified login: MediaWiki, Wikipedia Commons, English Wikipedia, French Wikipedia

--Guy Macon (talk) 01:21, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: looks like blocked cookies. Central auth login works via cookies from and local cookies (IMO a total of 5 starting with centralauth_* Note that some browser's tracking blockers can intefer with central login. The domains to be whitelisted are mainly and all of the domains you want to login on. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
That fixed it. As soon as I enabled cookies for it instantly did the usual central authority logon. Thanks!
I should probably ask the W?F to create a more helpful error message. --Guy Macon (talk) 09:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Uploading non-free image for identification purposes[]

Hello! When I created the page Wedding of Rainier III, Prince of Monaco, and Grace Kelly, I originally used images uploaded over a decade ago by others, which were apparently not commercially available and deleted shortly after. A few weeks ago, I uploaded a non-free, identifying image of the event to the infobox, in the style of Wedding of Albert II, Prince of Monaco, and Charlene Wittstock and Wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Philip Mountbatten, under the "This is some other kind of non-free work that I believe is legitimate Fair Use." option, as I didn't feel any of the other categories fit. However, it was speedily deleted shortly after. It is not possible to upload any identifying image to the page, despite it being in practice on other pages of the same topic? Also, I noticed that other identifying images, such as File:Wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh photo.PNG and File:Wedding of Albert II, Prince of Monaco, and Charlene Wittstock.PN] both contain the licensing "This work is copyrighted...To illustrate the subject in question". However, an option to "illustrate the subject in question" was not available when I chose reasoning for my uploads. Is this why it qualified for deletion? Thank you so much.--Bettydaisies (talk) 01:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


When googling Obama, it is my understanding that he was the president of the United States from 2008-2016. This is not the information stated on his wiki page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:32, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

You are confusing the years of the elections with the term of office. See the first sentence here President of the United States#Inauguration which explains when he was sworn into office. MarnetteD|Talk 04:01, 28 November 2020 (UTC)