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July 14[]

Spotting a small in a diff[]

In for example [1] actually seeing what the change was can be annoyingly hard. Is there some tool or trick that can help? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

With ones like that, I just zoom it till it becomes large enough to see. (I.e. Ctrl and +). Eagleash (talk) 09:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
That helps some, sure. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:22, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I use User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff. Click the green triangle above the diff at [2] to see it for your example. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:41, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Now we're talking. I'll try that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:47, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Here's a more primitive method that might work for you. Look at the screen from a yard or so back (experiment to find what's most comfortable) and cross your eyes (inwards) until the two almost-identical pieces of text merge in the middle to form a combined image — it may take a few seconds before the merged image drops into sharp focus. As you scan that combined image, places where the details do not match will look 'shimmery' as your left and right eye images fight for dominence.
I am able to use this technique for 'spot the difference' picture puzzles quite successfully, but YMMD. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 20:33, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Holy mother mole, it does work! For me, anyway. The first half of your pipelink has a capital S, almost seems to "slither" off the page (or out of the window, technically). InedibleHulk (talk) 01:13, July 15, 2019 (UTC)
That's interesting, but it seems I can't make it work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

─────────────── Another slightly counterintuitive option might be to use the mobile version of the diff page, which can be accessed by changing "en.wikipedia" to "en.m.wikipedia" in the url (and, as far as I know, should work on any desktop browser). The default text size in the mobile version is larger, and the pastel blue/yellow highlighting of changes is rendered as a brighter red/green, so the changes are at least a little bit easier to see (provided you don't suffer from red/green colour blindness). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Arms & Hearts: Instead of tweaking URL you can scroll the page to its bottom and click the 'Mobile view' link there. :) CiaPan (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Demographics section of articles about US towns and cities[]

Greetings fellow Wikipedians! Is there any particular reason that Wikipedia uses the term "spread out" to describe the distribution of population by age? These are just a few examples. I come across it all the time.

While not exactly wrong, the term "spread out" is awkward and unusual in this context. It's hard to believe that this is an actual Wikipedia policy. But it occurs so frequently that I had to ask.... before I launch a broad-based effort to correct this problem wherever I find it. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 11:33, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

All your examples date back to the 2002 article creation by Ram-Man, probably using rambot before it got its own account. A search on "the population was spread out with" gives 32,532 siimilar looking hits, nearly all of them probably from rambot. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject 2010 US Census. I don't know whether the formulation has been discussed. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:49, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. This makes sense.BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 11:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

User attacked me, accused me of propaganda for asking a question. Wanted me blocked. I took it to AN/Incidents.[]

Did I do the right thing? ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 12:05, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Дрейгорич: Judging by the result of the ANI it looks as though you did as the IP in question has some history. ANI would usually like to see some attempt at discussion first though. Eagleash (talk) 12:20, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Removed plot from comic adaptation[]

Could anyone please tell me if it's okay if I remove the plot section from The Marvelous Land of Oz (comics)? It's all one paragraph and the article on the source material already does a good job of it. (I already did this earlier, then reversed it out of OCD-induced worry. Edit: Sorry to not make that clear in the title of this post.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 12:37, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

If the comic and the book are two different entities, then it makes sense to have the plot in both places – even if as per you it's the same story. Lourdes 14:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Translation request[]

I would like to translate the German lemma Ecovis International into the English WP. To to this, I created this request which has been undone. Can someone tell me the proper steps of how to request a translation? Thanks --Krassissimus (talk) 12:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

You accidentally ed the template. Post here next time. ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 12:56, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
@Krassissimus: The link posted by Dreigorich is for cases where someone has already posted an article in the main article space that's in another language (which people shouldn't do, and such articles will be deleted if no one translates them to English within a couple of weeks) or when someone has posted a translation to main article space that isn't a very good one and needs attention from someone familiar with the source language. General information about creating an article here that's a translation from another language's Wikipedia can be found at Wikipedia:TRANSLATETOHERE. Let me know if you need any help beyond that. Largoplazo (talk) 13:51, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
@Largoplazo: Was that the right way way to submit a request? Krassissimus (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
@Krassissimus: No, it wasn't. See above where I said not to do it that way. What I forgot to mention is that if you do post an article that isn't in English and that article is a duplicate of an article on another language's Wikipedia, it wouldn't even get the two-week grace period—it would be deleted right away under WP:CSD A2. That's why the article was deleted, and that's why your request was removed from WP:PNT.
Please look at the instructions I gave you, WP:TRANSLATETOHERE. Largoplazo (talk) 22:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Removing VPN restrictions[]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.

Later this year, I may have to spend a decent amount of time in a country which has a reputation for intrusive government surveillance. Because of this, I don't feel comfortable traveling without a VPN. However, Wikipedia blocks me from ing whenever I have my VPN on. Hypothetically, is it possible for me to request an exemption to the block for my account?

I know there are ways to request for individual IPs to be unblocked, but it's my understanding that's VPNs don't always necessarily connect to the same IP.

Thank you. Alivardi (talk) 14:59, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Alivardi: You can request IP block exemption for the duration of your stay in the country. Danski454 (talk) 15:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
But no option to unblock the account itself I guess. Alright, thanks anyway. Alivardi (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Alivardi, IP block exemption will prevent your account from being blocked. Let me know when you will need it (dates) and I can grant it to you. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@ONUnicorn: Thank you. If the dates get confirmed, I'll let you know. Alivardi (talk) 20:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

New article still in draft status[]

Some two months ago, I prepared the following draft in response to a requested article: [[3]]

It is still only a draft so I wonder how I could further improve it to support its publication. Do you have any advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgtepr (talkcontribs) 18:08, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Mgtepr: you never submitted the draft for review. If you are ready, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. If you copy the code from here, copy it as it appears when viewing the page to make things work as intended. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 21:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

OK, I now added the code and hope that it is correct. It would be awesome if you could have a brief look whether the article actually has been submitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgtepr (talkcontribs) 06:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

No. You have not submitted it. You have included code and nowiki tags around the submission. You were told to copy the code as it appears when viewing this page; that is {{subst:submit}}. David Biddulph (talk) 06:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Monica Helms Page[]

I went to the Monica Helms page and someone took out most of the information about her. They even removed the picture of her. There was no inappropriate information on that page. You have tens of thousands of pages about people and much of the information on Monica's page was similar to that. Why was the page gutted like that? When will the information be restored? This is so unfair.

Monica Helms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfhelms (talkcontribs) 18:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Mfhelms: You can find out why each change to an article was made by looking at the article's history page. Click on the "view history" tab of the Monica Helms article. The picture was removed because it had been added as a "non-free" image (i.e., a picture with a copyright and no free copyright license), but with no rationale for use of a non-free image. You may submit an image of the subject if you are the photographer (the photographer owns the copyright), and you license it to us under a free license. This is not unfair: this policy applies to all images. If you object to the removal of other material, then raise your objection on the article's talk page and discuss it with the removing or. Again, the removing or was following policy and removing unreferenced material about a living person: see WP:BLP. Again: not unfair, but policy. If you can cite references, then the material can be re-instated if it is encyclopedic. Since you are the subject, you should not the article yourself: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. If we have messed up in other articles, that is no reason to mess up in your article: see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. -Arch dude (talk) 18:56, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

How to find exact color codes used in a template[]

Looking at the following template:

How can I find out the exact color codes that create that exact shade of blue and that exact shade of red, for the Democratic and Republican distinctions? That is, the little colored rectangle to the left of each senator's name. I am seeking the six-digit codes. I believe they are called "HTML markup" codes or such. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: One way is to trace back through the template code by looking at the template source. We end up at Template:Party shading/Republican and Template:Party shading/Democratic. They specify text style="background:#FFB6B6", and text style="background:#B0CEFF", respectively. If you are thinking about using thease colors in a Wikipedia article, you might want to figure out how to use the templates in the "Part shading" family instead of hard-coding the colors, as that will guarantee consistency. Note that the "six digits" are hexadecimal digits. An alternative would be to use One of the screenshot utilities on you own computer to grab a screenshot and past it into a paint program, and then use the utilities within the paint program to examine the colors of the pixels. -Arch dude (talk) 20:47, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. How exactly do I use that template (Template:Party shading/Republican) within a Wikipedia article? The template page/documentation says nothing at all about how to actually use it. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:54, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Joseph A. Spadaro: Research for this question is the first time I ever saw these templates. Take a look at (i.e., view source of) Template:Party shading/Republican/block, which uses Template:Party shading/Republican, and then look at the source of Template:Alabama State Senate to see how it is used in turn. You can see that the innermost template just generates an HTML snippet, and next template just wraps it in more HTML, and the outermost template just uses the result as a plain old wikitext template. So, wherever you had intended to use HTML color by using the snippet text style="background:#FFB6B6",, you can use {{Party shading/Republican}} instead. Maybe you can contact one of the original ors of the template to see if someone knowledgable has actually written coherent documentation. -Arch dude (talk) 04:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Joseph A. Spadaro: Example: <span {{party shading/Republican}}>This text has a republican background</span> Yields This text has a republican background -Arch dude (talk) 04:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
You can also use Special:ExpandTemplates to see the final wikitext produced by code. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, all! Very helpful! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Templates being expanded or collapsed[]

Looking at this article: List of U.S. state senators ... I specifically designated that all of the Template Boxes be "expanded". Yet, when I go and review the article, some of the Template Boxes become "hidden". (Hawaii, Illinois, Mississippi, Nevada, etc.) Why is that? And how do I fix it? I don't just want to hit the toggle key for "show/hide". I want all of the 50 boxes to always "show" (i.e., be expanded; not hidden) by default, when anyone opens the page to read. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:32, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

You forgot to pass through the {{{state}}} parameter in some templates. I fixed the error in one template. You can do this in other templates yourself. Ruslik_Zero 20:42, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. But, I did not understand a word that you said. Please re-phrase your reply. Also, it seems like the problem is not with the article that I created (List of U.S. state senators) ... but with the templates that are included in my new article. Is that correct? What seems to be the problem? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
|state=expanded and any other template parameter only has an effect if the called template is coded to recognize the parameter name and do something with it. In this case each of the used navbox templates must be coded to pass on the parameter to {{Navbox}}. This is what Ruslik0 did for one of the templates by calling {{Navbox}} with | state = {{{state|}}}.[4]. It varies whether navbox templates do this. You often have to do add the code if you are the first or who wants to display the navbox expanded by default. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. But, I really don't understand all of this technical / computer code talk. More directly: ... In this article (List of U.S. state senators), what do I need to do for the following four states (Illinois, Mississippi, Nevada, West Virginia)? And do I need to do anything for the other 46 states or no? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

creating a new page[]

Hi I'm trying to create a new page. Whenever I make the URL link, I am redirected by Wikipedia to a New user landing page. The page actually says..."you are trying to create a new page...You can create it, but... ..But there is no option to create the article. It just has links to sandbox and article wizard. I don't want to use them. I want to create the page myself. How can I do this?Gumlau (talk) 20:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gumlau: Probably the best way for a newish user to create an article is in fact via the article wizard. This just helps you 'kick-start' the page... you still have to do the work yourself. This way you can work on the article in draftspace (where there is less chance of deletion or other interference) and submit it for review when you consider it ready. Please read WP:YFA together with the notability guide and the guide to reliable sources. I will also leave some hopefully useful links at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 20:53, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Hi, is it mandatory to submit articles for review before publishing? Gumlau (talk) 21:13, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
@Gumlau: No, but I would not recommend that a first article (or even a second) be created directly in, or moved to, mainspace. In fact you will not be able to move a draft to mainspace until your account is four days old (tomorrow). All new pages are subject to new page patrol where more experienced ors review them before they are indexed by search engines. Your draft in respect of Po Hla Gyi although 'on the way' is not yet really in a condition to be accepted into mainspace. Eagleash (talk) 21:30, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Unsettling PHP7 tag[]

I recently made five s to Dysgeusia. Four had similar summaries beginning with "un-" and functioned normally. One, to the "Normal function" section, referred instead to a CN "tag" and was tagged. Is this as "random" as the Wikilink in the tag claims, or what? I've seen these things before, but they used to stick around for entire sessions, not just trip me out for a literal minute before vanishing. Do I need help (technically)? InedibleHulk (talk) 22:29, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, the PHP7 tag means your was made using the 7th version of the PHP interpreter, which is currently in beta. I'm not sure why one random is made using this beta feature, but there is no need to worry. The tag is simply there to make sure MediaWiki developers can identify the s to check for performance, etc. --MrClog (talk) 23:01, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I also remain unsure why, or what "etc" is being checked, but if you say it's resolved, I guess that settles that. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:36, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
InedibleHulk, says: This will help us identify performance, functional, and stability concerns specific to PHP in comparison to HHVM. You can ignore the PHP7 tags. I don't know much more, but there is nothing to worry about, as long as you don't enter the MediaWiki basement or check behind the curtains. --MrClog (talk) 23:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Oh yeah, for sure. Nothing clears up confusion like vagueness. Far be it from this user to maintain specific functional concerns or disenhance relative stability. Or you know, whatever. Cheers! InedibleHulk (talk) 23:50, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

July 15[]

Creating a dab page[]

I suspect (being an IP) that I cannot create a disambiguation page; but, I was wondering if there's a minimum number of potentially ambiguous entries before a dab page is created. Specifically: Thornfield & Thornfield, Missouri & Thornfield Hall (default is the 1st one: a horse). Is there a place for requesting a dab page creation? 2606:A000:1126:28D:E5B5:B088:3A46:1619 (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Three generally, though in a pinch two is enough if there is no clearcut WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. There's no place to request one AFAIK, but I'll get on it. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

wimbledon championships[]

the page listing mens si gkes champions has omited John McEnroe as multiple champion. Sorry, I am too inexoerienced to myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:A182:8C00:C881:107:9BD9:6463 (talk) 07:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

You should have posted this at the article talk page. Nonetheless I looked at List of Wimbledon gentlemen's singles champions#Multiple_champions and there was John McEnroe 15th from the top. Looks good to me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Images / drafts[]

What is the correct way to upload my images to wikimedia without them getting deleted due to copyright? They are my images - how can I prove that?

This is really a question for Wikimedia Commons, not for us here at English-language Wikipedia. But if the copyright of an image is really yours (e.g. because you took it yourself), it's just a matter of filling in the upload form correctly. Maproom (talk) 08:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
However, if the picture you took is of a copyrighted work, such as a film poster, then it will not be accepted at Wikimedia (unless you can prove that you are also the creator or copyright-owner of the poster itself). Maproom (talk) 08:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Also what is the average wait time to find out whether a draft article will be accepted?

Lastly, if an image which I embedded into my article has now been deleted (due to copyright), will my draft article also be rejected?

The presence or absence of an image in an article is most unlikely to have any effect on whether it is accepted or rejected. Maproom (talk) 08:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HSCollins (talkcontribs) 08:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Drafts are reviewed in no particular order by volunteers who do what they can when they can. It could be reviewed in ten minutes, or three months from now. It's hard to say how long it will take, but it likely will be weeks as there are thousands of drafts waiting for review. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
( conflict) @HSCollins: Hello, the best way to upload images is via Commons here. Click upload image on the left of the page. It will ask you to declare that the image is your own work.
There are currently nearly 4,000 drafts awaiting review. It could take 2 months or more but there is no set order and drafts can be accepted in a matter of days or less.
The article would not be rejected overall if an image was copy-vio. However, it would not be accepted if other content was found to be copyright.
(Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Eagleash (talk) 08:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Overwhelmed, & Confused:[]

Hope all is well,

       I'm overwhelmed, & confused in regards to formatting a "notability" Wikipedia page. I had truly thought that I followed all of the proper guidelines in reference to concocting an unbias written approach, in conjunction to providing structured, verifiable accolades, & work citations […] but yet, I was flagged (if you will). :-(

I'm querying you, because (1.), I would like to know if my work is completely lost in cyber-space, & (2.), can you please do provide any suggestions, or a more detailed explanation as to why I did not meet the requirements for your site. I would love to correct my wrongs, & get a better understanding as to how I can strengthen the said written contribution. I sincerely believe in doing my part with egalitarianism, order, & justice within the Wikipedia community, & understand, & respect the fact that you have a great deal of experience on this platform. Thank you for your time, & energy pertaining to this matter.

Best Wishes,

Hope — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yumi4us (talkcontribs) 12:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Yumi4us, it's hard to tell what you are asking about. You only have two surviving contributions to English-language Wikipedia, at least while signed in with that name: your question above and one on the talk page of Edgar181. I don't know what you mean by 'a "notability" Wikipedia page' – The subject of a Wikipedia article must be notable, we don't apply the word to the article itself. And notability is not related to or dependent on formatting. Maproom (talk) 13:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

( conflict): Hi Yumi4us Greetings. As per your contribution log, you have only 2 s. None of the you made is pretending to "Pennsylvania State University graduate, & young hip-hop/rap artist from Connecticut" which you mentioned in your first here. For such it would difficult for us to help you. Perhaps you have ed using an IP address. Pls provide the article name and which version of (history different) (on the history page of the article). Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk)

@Maproom and CASSIOPEIA: The Global contributions listing Yumi4us • says the user made 4 s, one of which survived (which is not accurate: Special:Contributions/Yumi4us shows two) and 3 have been deleted. Possibly they mean one (or even all) of those three deleted s...? But seeing them requires higher rights, e.g. Admin or Checkuser: Special:DeletedContributions/Yumi4us. --CiaPan (talk) 13:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
The deleted page was User:Yumi4us, see the deletion log entry. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Yumi4us: you created a Wikipedia user page about yourself, not a Wikipedia article. the purpose of a user page is very different than an article and has different rules. It's supposed to tell other Wikipedia ors about how you intend to contribute to Wikipedia. You do not need to be notable to have a user page, but the page is not supposed to be about your whole life, just about how you will Wikipedia. See WP:USERPAGE. By contrast, an article must be about a notable subject. See WP:N. If you yourself are a notable subject by our definition, then you can have an article about yourself, but you cannot write it yourself. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. -Arch dude (talk) 14:55, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
It wasn't an autobiography. It was a highly promotional page about someone else. As such, it met criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD#U5 and WP:CSD#G11). -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

"This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it"[]

Hi there,

I published an article about a Memorial to R. Wallenberg in Gothenburg ( ), but I had (and still have) a message displayed just above the article stating that "This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it". So I added to this article a link to the article on swedish Wikipedia about the same subject. After I did that - the link to that article on Swedish wikipedia appeared at the bottom of my article but that message (just above the article) that "This article is an orphan" still remains. I would be very grateful if you told me how to make it go away or if you could remove it yourself. Thanks in advance.

Sergeismart (talk) 14:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Sergeismart: As Wikipedia:Orphan explains, an orphan is not an article, which contains no links to other articles, but rather an article which is not linked from other articles. So to de-orphan you article you would need to find related articles, which may link to A Memorial to Raoul Wallenberg in the City of Gothenburg (they may be, for example, Raoul Wallenberg or Charlotte Gyllenhammar) and add links to it there. --CiaPan (talk) 14:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
( conflict) @Sergeismart: Hello, that refers to the fact that the page is not linked in other articles. I.e. it is not mentioned in other Wikipedia articles or if it is, it is not linked. You would need to search for pages where there is a mention and link it to the page you created. Links are made using the double square brackets not typed out in full as above. A 'pipe' can be used where necessary. Per WP:ORPHAN three incoming links is the ideal but just one can result in the removal; of the tag (which has to be done manually). Eagleash (talk) 15:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
( conflict)@Sergeismart: A Memorial to Raoul Wallenberg in the City of Gothenburg has no incoming links from other articles on the English Wikipedia, so it is considered an "orphan". To change this, go to other article in the English Wikipedia and add appropriate links. Please do not simply add a line in the "see also" section of the other article. Instead, add a sentence in the appropriate location in the text. good candidates articles are Raoul Wallenberg and Gothenburg. However, your article is likely to be recommended for deletion because it does not have evidence of notability: see WP:N. Please add citations to reliable sources (WP:RS) such as articles in major newspapers that are specifically about this monument. (And thanks for the article. That's an interesting monument.) If the article is proposed for deletion, please consider merging it into the Wallenberg article. -Arch dude (talk) 15:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
( conflict) You can click 'find link tool' in the 'tag' which may help to find appropriate articles. Eagleash (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Flickr Upload Creative Commons Licence help[]

Can I upload a picture from Flickr to Wikipedia that's under the CC licence, Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)? Here's the link to the picture:
- Stinkyjaden (talk) 15:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Stinkyjaden

Images with non-commerical licenses, regardless of their source, are not acceptable on Wikipedia, so no. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Removing / Updating Content Error[]

Our Founder has requested our office to remove a substantial amount of information to update his page bio with only the information he wants. We ran into this error:

Error: Your action has triggered an filter An automated filter has identified this as potentially unconstructive, so it has been disallowed. Please do not remove all the text of Wikipedia pages. The resulting blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they confuse readers. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If this is constructive, please report this error.

If this page is duplicate of another, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If this page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of this page is inappropriate, please the page and replace it with appropriate content or leave a message on the talk page. If you believe this page should be deleted altogether, please see articles for deletion for information on how to proceed. If this page is a biography of a living person that is problematic, please report the problem at the noticeboard. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk.

How do we get around this? Thanks

Global Servants (talk) 17:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Global Servants: You don't get around it. Your Founder does not get to control the content of the article. Please read also WP:COI and WP:PAID RudolfRed (talk) 17:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Global Servants: You and your founder might wish to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. -Arch dude (talk) 17:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Global Servants: Also, you need to use a different user name. See WP:USERNAME. A user name must be used by a single individual, not a group, and your username implies group usage. Since you have only made one , it's simpler to just abandon your existing user name and start with a new one. You still need to adhere to WP:PAID to comply with the terms of service to Wikipedia. Note also that the article in question is not "his article". It's our page about him.-Arch dude (talk) 17:45, 15 July 2019 (UTC).
That's a feature, not an error. That said, after having read the linked guidance above, consider suggesting changes at the article talkpage, Talk:Mark Rutland. You can also try asking for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity/Noticeboard. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

July 16[]

Factual error needs correction[]

User FlightTime is blocking me from addressing a factual error on a page about astronaut Sally Ride. (I worked as a writer and or with Ride at her science company, so he says I have a conflict of interest, but my background means I also know a great deal about her career.) He has put up a warning saying someone with a conflict of interest is a major contributor to the page, but I am not a major contributor to the page. FlightTime reversed my attempted contribution immediately. All I want to do is correct a factual error. Mking92124 (talk) 01:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Correction, I'm not blocking you, I just asked to to discuss your concerns first and you in fact started a thread on the talk page, that is the proper SOP when you have a COI. The template you refer to has been removes by Risker - FlightTime (open channel) 01:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@Mking92124: Please start by assuming good faith, especially when your first (perfectly natural) reaction is to assume the other guy is acting arbitrarily. See WP:AGF. In fact the other or was using a process we call Bold-Revert-Discuss: see WP:BRD. This process can appear hostile when you first encounter it, but it's not intended that way. It is instead a fairly efficient way to arrive at consensus. Please carry on. And thanks for your efforts. -Arch dude (talk) 01:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@Mking92124: - I concur that this material is not supported by any of the citations. Wikipedia's policies would dictate if it is the case, it should be supported with a citation, otherwise removed. I'll inquire with FlightTime. Prodego talk 02:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Templates are being disrupted[]

At the very bottom of this article (List of U.S. state representatives), I had four templates. For some reason, these four templates became "disrupted" by some intervening s of mine. Now, the four templates are replaced with a blue link that says "#invoke:Navbox". This shows up four times, at the very bottom of the article page. Does anyone know what is going on, and what caused this? And how to solve it? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: Why do you think they are disrupted? Did you try to use them alone in a separate page? Or just move them up, to the top of the page? Possibly you would notice something more... You can also try to remove some earlier templates, say, those for Tennesee through Vermont, and see what happens... --CiaPan (talk) 06:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@Joseph A. Spadaro: The page is in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded - see that category page for an explanation and some advice. You may have to split the page into two, unless someone can find a way to make the templates more efficient. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
"Disrupted" means ... the templates were working fine. Then, all of the sudden, they were not. So, I am not sure what happened in the interim to make them stop working. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:54, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
When something no longer works like it used to, does not necessarily mean that thing is 'disrupted'. It's often some change in an environment, some external condition that prevents a good thing from working properly. Have you tried to light a match under water? It certainly wouldn't work - but does it mean the match is 'disrupted'...???
I gave you some hints already - did you try them? Did you look at an older version of your article? Did you try to place the templates in question alone in some new page, e.g. in some sandbox? Or move them to the top of the page? --CiaPan (talk) 07:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
John of Reading gave the explanation: See Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. It is not currently possible to transclude the 49 state templates (Nebraska doesn't have one) in the same page. It fails even if everything else in the page is removed. There is no simple solution apart from splitting the list in two. The only reason a former version displayed fully is that it incorrectly transcluded senate templates for some states instead of the larger house of representatives. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Yes, I saw that answer. I suspected that kind of reason myself, even though I do not know detailed technical limitations. Anyway simple tests I proposed above would reveal these limitations immediately – actually those are what I tested, even before answering here. Such simple test make it clear whether the templates are actually broken ('disrupted'), or their use incorrect, or some external circumstances influence their work. That would allow Joseph to understand his problem deeper, and ask more precise question. Which in turn will give him a final answer much faster.
Doing some investigation oneself is often much more productive than waiting for someone else to find out what we did wrong. --CiaPan (talk) 10:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, all. I decided to split the list into two: 25 states on the first list and 25 states on the second list. Not exactly ideal, but it seems I had no choice. Thanks for the explanations and advice / suggestions. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Change from colon to semicolon[]

I know it's trifling, but could anyone please tell me if it was all right to change the punctuation in this (now ed) sentence from a colon to a semicolon?

"On 30 October 2016, another magnitude 6.5 earthquake rocked Norcia, causing heavy damage to the city: among other buildings, the Basilica of St. Benedict was destroyed."--Thylacine24 (talk) 04:02, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: After the word "city", either a colon or a semi-colon is acceptable. But, they are saying two different things. If you use a semi-colon, you are essentially breaking it into two separate sentences (two separate thoughts). If you use a colon, you are saying "there was a lot of heavy damage to the city" ... for example, some of that heavy damage was the destruction of the Basilica. Either is correct, depending on what you are trying to say. I suspect that the original intent was the colon. Whereby the words after the colon offer an example of the heavy damage to the city. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that the colon is better because the second part doesn't really stand on its own (as required for two balanced parts separated by a semicolon). I would put a full stop, but that's just my preference. Dbfirs 06:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Sorry about this. I'll change it back. And of course, thanks. (Edited to add another spacing colon.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 14:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
You're welcome. I am glad that you decided to ask at this Help Desk. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

My password seems to have stopped working and I’m unable to reset it[]

I’ve had an account (The Font) since 2006, but this morning my password did not work. I tried to reset it, but was told: “There is no email address recorded for user "The Font".” I still have the e-mails from 2006 confirming that the account was registered to my e-mail address, and I still have the same address. I certainly haven’t deregistered the address. Can anyone advise me?


Grant Cribb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:8382:B100:DC56:29CE:D6B6:BB6D (talk) 09:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Are you saying that you are The Font (talk · contribs)? There is no "Email this user" link in the tools box on the left at User talk:The Font and that confirms that the account currently has no email address set. That means that recovering the account may be difficult. It's possible there is some record in the database of your early email address and there may be a path to recovery. However, the last for that account was in September 2018 and another possibility is to create a new account if you are sure you cannot recall the password. Johnuniq (talk) 10:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Long-term harassment of our users on bs.Wikipedia[]

discussion about a different Wikipedia

Dear Main Administrators,

We are a group of users from the Institute of Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology at the University of Sarajevo (INGEB), who participated in the creation of hundreds of articles on several Wikipedia, mostly at,,, hr. wiki,

We are informing you that some administrators with (especially C3r4 and AnToni, KWiki, Elcobbola, Wolverine etc) have organized a hysterical action to prevent us from accessing able and new articles.

Among other things, they harshly reprimanded a distinguished academician (user Yahadzija), and (with the cooperation with known administrators of other wiki), they made a global ban on cooperation. They even called him imbecil and threatened "to break his bones" (see record and archive of this user). They have made valuable judgments in articles for which they are extremely incompetent, including the biographies of some significant axes in BiH.

Since we know the identity of these users (from the Faculty of Science, Faculty of Mechanical Engineering and Mechanical Engineering of the University of Sarajevo), we are convinced that this is a personal animosity and a tendency to insult the environment.

They, among other things, blocked even the INGEB server, proclaiming the stockpile of any potential user (for example, FalconBos Narasa etc). Due to an irresponsible attitude towards associates, bs.Wikipedia has lost its existing and discourages future users. This wiki is therefore the poorest of all wikis in the languages of the Balkans.

Finally, please understand this intervention as an attempt to contribute to the transparency of the Wikipedia project and professional accountability towards a significant mission of the joint project. Sincerely yours Byelobrk (talk) 09:55, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

In the above, are you referring to Yahadzija (talk · contribs) who is indefinitely blocked at enwiki and globally locked as a result of an RfC two years ago? Johnuniq (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Note: Please use correct user names. No 'Wolverine' was involved in the case. --CiaPan (talk) 10:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 Comment: I've been mentioned, but am not an "administrato[r] with," nor am I one on I have not referred to Yahadzija as an "imbecil" or threatened "to break his bones". While the entirety of your purports are disingenuous and untrue, accusations of personal attacks and physical threats--which notably lack diffs, or even links to pages on which they purportedly appear (which you know how to do per the linked INGEB above)--are the height of irresponsibility and intellectual dishonesty. I might also mention that Yahadzija, just this month, was ing with the sockpuppet Fuyecobbola (Fuyecobbola = Fuck you elcobbola). Harassment, indeed. Эlcobbola talk 15:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@Byelobrk: This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. It is not the forum for raising issues to administrators. Try WP:ANI, but it is not clear your issue is relevant here at all. Do you have a question about using or ing the English Wikipedia? -Arch dude (talk) 15:50, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 Comment: The user as now been globally locked as sockpuppet of Yahadzija (talk · contribs). --MrClog (talk) 20:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Chek in[]

Extended content

Check in the record of user Yahadzija and voting for his blocking!Бајеццобола (talk) 18:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

 Comment: User has been globally locked. --MrClog (talk) 20:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

To whom this concern[]

Extended content

EnWiki is the mother of all Wikipedias. To whom to turn? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Бајеццобола (talkcontribs) 18:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Only in the sense that it was the first one, Бајеццобола. Each Wikipedia is an independent project, and none has any authority over any aspect of any other one. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Бајеццобола I assume you are asking who to turn to regarding problems in another language Wikipedia. That would be Meta. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 Comment: User has been globally locked. --MrClog (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Question about topics/Own Thoughts in an article[]

I'm right now ing a researcher's BIO here in Wikipedia and would like to know if is ok to add his own thoughts in his BIO, is this ok or should I do this in a different way?

Best Regards

David Maluenda — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Maluenda (talkcontribs) 13:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

You can add them only if you cite a reliable published source that states those thoughts. Maproom (talk) 13:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
And, furthermore,David Maluenda, only if they are germane to something in the article that is based on what an independent source has published. Wikipedia is rarely interested in what the subject of an article says, does, or thinks, unless this has been reported by an independent source. --ColinFine (talk) 18:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Getting Started – Contributing to Wiki articles[]

It seems you need to be a skilled programmer in order to contribute to a wiki article. Is this correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CitizenVA (talkcontribs) 13:46, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you don't need to be a skilled programmer to contribute, I started by adding a sentence or two to articles and copying the formatting of what was already there. There are more complex aspects as you can see on this helpdesk, but you don't need to know everything to start. TSventon (talk) 14:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Start with Wikipedia:Introduction 2. There's stuff that take some effort, but much is doable from the start. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
If you find wiki markup confusing (which is totally understandable, though as TSventon, you'll get the hang of it eventually), you can use the VisualEditor, which allows you to articles without having to learn the markup. More generally though, there's always help available for new ors who are still learning the markup (here at the help desk, at the WP:Teahouse, and through lots of policy and guideline pages) and, since anyone can Wikipedia articles, it's likely that any mistakes you might make will be |cleaned up relatively quickly without causing any major problems. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

The Painted Turtle[]

'The painted turtle' is not just a camp. The painted turtle is also the state reptile of Michigan. Millieeeeeee (talk) 14:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps you failed to read the hatnote at the top of the article, or didn't follow the link? --David Biddulph (talk) 14:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Template syntax highlighting[]

I have has problems with template syntax highlighting. While it works great on some pages it doesn't on other pages, seemingly without any pattern. Do anyone know why it's happening and how I can enable it manually when I want it? -- Trialpears (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Do you mean the coloured text in the window? on pages containing javascript or other special content that's automatically. Anywhere else press on the pen next to "Advanced" in the toolbar. Note:This only works in source or, not in the VisualEditor. (talk) 18:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

chronicles of vladimir tod[]

the chronicles of vladimir tod the real author is not zac brewer, its heather brewer , it needs to be fixed you are allowing people to with false information — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Please read the article. Heather Brewer is the former name of Zac Brewer. -Arch dude (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Page Verification[]

When will somebody verify my page "Arbor Investments" that I created. It currently says "Draft" and I am wondering when it will be officially posted on the web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cprassas4 (talkcontribs) 19:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Cprassas4: Hello, I cannot see that the page has been submitted for review. If you consider it is ready for mainspace you can request review by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. There are currently about 4,000 articles awaiting review and it can take up to 2 months (or more). Before you do submit, please read WP:NCORP, if you have not already done so, for notability guidelines in respect of companies. Please remove all external links from the text - convert into refs where appropriate - and anything that could be considered in any way promotional. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

How long can a paragraph be?[]

Could anyone please tell me what the maximum length of a paragraph should be, in the number of lines, assuming there is no picture next to the paragraph?--Thylacine24 (talk) 20:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Potentially number of sentences, but I am not sure there is a specific policy on this.
Have you got an example of something that is too long? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:57, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't consider that. If you have an idea on the number of sentences, then please tell me. Anyway, at the moment, there are multiple paragraphs on the page "Science and technology of the Song dynasty" that are too long, or seem like they might be too long.
Edit: Here's an example of a paragraph I split at "In 1183..." (footnotes removed):
"During the Song dynasty there was also great amount of attention given to the building of efficient automotive vessels known as paddle wheel craft. The latter had been known in China perhaps since the 5th century,[85] and certainly by the Tang dynasty in 784 with the successful paddle wheel warship design of Li Gao. In 1134, the Deputy Transport Commissioner of Zhejiang, Wu Ge, had paddle wheel warships constructed with a total of nine wheels and others with thirteen wheels. However, there were paddle wheel ships in the Song that were so large that 12 wheels were featured on each side of the vessel. In 1135 the famous general Yue Fei (1103–1142) ambushed a force of rebels under Yang Yao, entangling their paddle wheel craft by filling a lake with floating weeds and rotting logs, thus allowing them to board their ships and gain a strategic victory. In 1161, gunpowder bombs and paddle wheel crafts were used effectively by the Song Chinese at the Battle of Tangdao and the Battle of Caishi along the Yangtze River against the Jurchen Jin dynasty during the Jin–Song Wars. The Jurchen invasion, led by Wanyan Liang (the Prince of Hailing), failed to conquer the Southern Song. In 1183, the Nanjing naval commander Chen Tang was given a reward for constructing ninety paddle wheel craft and other warships. In 1176, Emperor Xiaozong of Song (r. 1162–1189) issued an imperial order to the Nanjing official Guo Gang (who desired to convert damaged paddle wheel craft into junk ships and galleys) not to limit the number of paddle wheel craft in the navy's dockyards, since he had high esteem for the fast assault craft that won the Chinese victory at Caishi. However, paddle wheel craft found other uses besides effective assaults in warfare. The Arab or Persian Commissioner of Merchant Shipping for Quanzhou, the Muslim Pu Shougeng (who served from 1250 to 1275) noted that paddle wheel ships were also used by the Chinese as tugboats for towing."
Sorry if I'm getting worked up over nothing.--Thylacine24 (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for posting the paragraph. I pasted it into Notepad and found that it seems to consist of two paragraphs, connected by three examples of the Chinese use of paddleboats.


Hope this is both clear and helpful.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

July 17[]

How do I change an Article Title[]

Dear Wikipedia

Australian Hearing is now known as Hearing do I change the title of the article to reflect this?

thanks AWM — Preceding unsigned comment added by HearingAustralia (talkcontribs) 00:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, HearingAustralia. Articles are renamed with a "Move" to a new title. I moved it for you.

PS: It's very important that you change your user name to something less institutional, as it's a violation of Wikipedia's user name policy. See here --Quisqualis (talk) 01:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Was this comma splice necessary?[]

From the article "Great Ireland" (: the original link I put up here was "Celtic Otherworld", sorry about that), I've ed the following sentence:

"Celtic folklore tells of a mythical land across the western ocean often referred to as the Celtic Otherworld, and also known as Annwn or Avalon, among other names."

Both commas I ed in. The second one seems appropriate, but I'm not sure about the first one. Could anyone please tell me if I'm correct on about the first one (and the second one, if it is indeed wrong)?--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

The sentence needs both, and I would remove "and".--Quisqualis (talk) 01:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, and you're right about removing "and". I'll do it.--Thylacine24 (talk) 02:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

My wiki is still in draft version, why?[]

Dear sirs,

I have drafted my wiki called "King's College International School Bangkok" for a while but it seems to get stuck. I'm not sure if it's going to get published as public or not, please could you help me with this?

I just added a very basic information and will keep adding more later on.

Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taksina Sakulrattanapornchai (talkcontribs) 04:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Taksina Sakulrattanapornchai: The page has not been submitted for review. You need to add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page... just as it is written in this sentence, without additional nowiki and other coding. Please see WP:NSCHOOL for notability guidelines (and follow the links found there). Please remove bolding from headings; infobox UK school doesn't seem to be appropriate... see Template:Infobox school for more information. Please be sure that the page is ready for mainspace before submitting... to avoid disappointment and extra work for all concerned. Please note that there are roughly 4,000 articles awaiting review and it could take 8 weeks (or more). Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 04:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Taksina Sakulrattanapornchai:, you have copied the markup so I don't think what you did will work. I was going to change it for you so that the draft would be submitted for review, then I noticed that you were writing about a future event, and Wikipedia does not make predictions unless they have been made by WP:Reliable sources. I think it might be WP:Too soon for an article about an institution to be set up at some time in the future, but if you can find independent news articles about the future school, then please add them before you submit for review, then you will have a better chance of your article being accepted. See WP:Referencing for beginners for some guidance. Dbfirs 06:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Taksina Sakulrattanapornchai: Please read WP:YFA, and pay special attention to notability. We delete more than 200 articles per day, mostly due to lack of notability. Please start by finding the needed reliable sources WP:RS to establish notability, to make sure you are not putting effort into creating an article that will be deleted. -Arch dude (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Book creation[]

I am very confused--is there a BOOK option or not--there are lots of disclaimers, but I don't see a link to one's own book in the right upper corner--on some page that I can't get back to, it lists one article I saved--on a different Wikipedia page, it shows anoter article I saved--when I tried to save a different new page, I saw nothing on the idebar about storing a page OR downloading a PDF--I"ve contributed to Wikipedia (though not a lot and I don't use it a lot, but I think it is great--but I find it very difficult to navigate except for a search --I have a limited income, or I"d give more, but I really wish there were a webmaster that could make things more user friendly--thx--Ruth STrauss (if you post this, please just post first name or first name and last initial — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruthhstraussmd (talkcontribs) 06:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ruthhstraussmd: The book creator currently has limited functionality. You and others can see links to the collected articles on a Wikipedia page like Book:Canada. You can order a printed copy (I think this works) but you cannot download a PDF or other file version of the book. Click "Contributions" at the top right of any page to see your s. If you have many s then you can click "Subpages" at the bottom to see books and other subpages you have created in your userspace. You have created User:Ruthhstraussmd/Books/ruthhstraussmd/books. You don't have to repeat your username and "books" when you choose a name for your book. Just choose a suitable title for the specific book you are creating. It's possible to create multiple books. Start a new book by clicking "Create a book" in the left pane of an article when the book creator is not already active. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Where do I find answers from this desk??[]

earlier, I thought I saw a box that said check back to a certain page to see if thre are any answers to my question, but now I can't find that page--as I said, even though Wikipedia is great for looking up things, the navigability is really not that easy in my opinion--so I sent a question earlier, but I don't know where to look if you answer it-- thx for warning me about not including an email address--can you post as a notification in my box as to where to look if there is an answer to my previous quetison--thx THX username --ruthhstraussmd


The button that says "publish" is to remind you that anything you write anywhere in Wikipedia is public. I understand that the WikiMedia Foundation required this change to keep the legal position clear. If you ask a question (please don't use BLOCK CAPITALS, it is considered shouting and rude) on the help page, then your question is published on the help page. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:29, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Ruthhstraussmd: Click "Contributions" at the top right of any page to see pages you have ed. Replies are usually posted there, or sometimes at User talk:Ruthhstraussmd. You get a notification of posts to User talk:Ruthhstraussmd but on other pages, you only get a notification if the replying poster includes code to notify you, e.g. {{ping|Ruthhstraussmd}} in this post. The reply also has to be signed with ~~~~. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


This is getting ridiculous--verything I"ve tried to do on Wikipedia tonight (except people searches) has beena BUST--I went to a page hwere the preson is living and it asked for additional sources but the links were so convoluted and long and complicated,a fter I read it, I couldn't put down or figure out where to put the source--I have wasted more time on this site tonight--very frustrating--I don't know even where to look if someone answers this--that is how unnavigable the site is, or lacking clear instructions--well I guess it is like "the camel"--a "horse put together by a committee" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruthhstraussmd (talkcontribs) 07:56, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ruthhstraussmd: You will find answers here, as soon as someone manages to find any question in what you wrote and writes an answer. Just give people some time. --CiaPan (talk) 08:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
P.S. Please WP:SIGN your posts at Wikipedia – just put four tildes (~~~~) at the end. CiaPan (talk)
There are 5,893,163 pages on the English WP. Trying to guess which one you were working on causes other ors work just to understand your complaint. Please be specific: which page and which link? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Articles can use different source sýstems and have different source requirements so it's difficult to help without knowing the article and source. The notice at top of the window for this page includes: "If possible, please be specific in your question rather than general and link to any page or article your question involves, or at least tell us the title of the page." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
It could relat to Fab Five Freddy where this added a 'source' but it was not correctly formatted and was subsequently reverted. Eagleash (talk) 13:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Ruthhstraussmd:If you have difficulty formatting information for an article, just use any format at all to add the information and the information about the source to a new section in the article's talk page and request that another or perform the actual . Add {{request }} to your section. You can then look at how the other or did it as an example for your later efforts. Yes, as a volunteer effort with a deliberately unstructured system of orial control, we sometimes seem chaotic. In 18 years we have had more than 82 million individual ors and we have more than 200,000 ors in the last 30 days. All of these ors have essentially the same level of control over our policies and content, including e.g. where questions are asked and answered. -Arch dude (talk) 17:04, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Fundraising timing[]

I've been getting some questions from my purely wiki-reader friends asking about fundraising timing.

As far as I know we only overtly fundraise at the end of the year - is July advertising normal or just a change for this year (the banners definitely are there)?

Nosebagbear (talk) 16:06, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: There's a note here about some tests of the fundraising system. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:13, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

New page needed[]

it makes no sense that theres an article for The New Nintendo 2DS XL but there isnt an article for the New Nintendo 3DS XL. Can I make an article for The New Nintendo 3DS XL? After all, I Do have a New Nintendo 3DS XL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zygarde45 (talkcontribs) 16:32, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

It seems like there's already an article about New Nintendo 3DS XL, but feel free to add to it any information you feel should be added so long as you are able to cite a reliable source for that information. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)