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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

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Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
October 4 1
October 6 1
October 11 1
October 12 1 1
October 15 1
October 18 2
October 21 2 1
October 23 1
October 25 2
October 27 1
October 28 1
October 30 2 1
October 31 2 1
November 1 1 1
November 2 2 1
November 3 2 1
November 4 2
November 5 1
November 6 2 1
November 9 3 3
November 10 3 1
November 11 5 3
November 12 4 1
November 13 3 1
November 14 3 3
November 15 10 5
November 16 5 2
November 17 4 4
November 18 4 2
November 19 10 9
November 20 9 8
November 21 13 8
November 22 9 7
November 23 7 6
November 24 9 6
November 25 9 6
November 26 7 6
November 27 12 7
November 28 7 4
November 29 11 3
November 30 13 5
December 1 9 1
December 2 4
December 3 4 1
Total 205 110
Last updated 19:31, 3 December 2020 UTC
Current time is 20:34, 3 December 2020 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article[]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
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On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
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III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.

How to review a nomination[]

Any or who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious orial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make s to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

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Backlogged?[]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an or reviews it. Since ors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[]

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Nominations[]

Older nominations[]

Articles created/expanded on October 4[]

Portrait of Sir David Webster

Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 13:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment For a variety of reasons, it would be better to rephrase as follows:

Johnbod (talk) 13:57, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Interesting painting and destiny, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. I prefer the ALT, but think a comma is missing after London, or we could drop London. I am not happy with piping the title of the painting, because the name of the person portrayed would at least connect the ROH to the painting for those who know. No hook reader will get to know about the lonesome tulips and the "icily arrogant" scene ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:14, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Comment: Could a WP:FAIRUSE image of the portrait be added to the article? Ivar the Boneful (talk) 13:15, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
To the article yes, to the nomination no, if you have one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
The image is already in Fair Use on the David Webster (opera manager) article, so it should be ok as Fair Use on this article - why it hasn't been added is unclear. I notice that there is no link back to this article from the David Webster article, and that neither article, not even this one which is actually about the painting, even once give the painting's official title.86.56.21.175 (talk) 14:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Comment: This might be the wrong place to say this, but the title of the article should be changed to "Portrait of David Webster". The standard way of naming articles about paintings is to just title them with the name of the painting. In the David Hockney template at the bottom of the article, the title has actually been piped to "Portrait of David Webster", so you know that is what the article should be called, so why not just call it that? 86.56.34.181 (talk) 08:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I should have spotted that above. Johnbod (talk) 17:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
The official title, as given by Christies is "Portrait of Sir David Webster", so that's what the article should be called, and it should be linked in the Hockney template under that name. https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/david-hockney-b-1937-portrait-of-sir-6285715-details.aspx 94.139.29.156 (talk) 07:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
I've moved it to its Christie's title...although Hockney signed it 'Sir David Webster with tulips'! There's a magnificent accompanying essay on Christie's which I shall expand the article from. Creating this article led me to start Nicholas Wilder, and I have two more Hockney articles in the pipeline! No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Comment: I will also add that as the auction at Christies is on 22 October (in 9 days time), wouldn't it be better to wait until after that, because this article and the hook will be out of date once the work has been sold and the sale price is known.94.139.29.156 (talk) 05:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
If we did wait, we could have ".. that the Royal Opera House, London said it had no alternative but to sell a painting by David Hockney for £XM to survive? Johnbod (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, something like that, but as it is the auction that determines the sale price, rather than the ROH deciding what the price will be, I wouldn't word it quite like that. Other things of hooky interest might result from the auction - it might not reach the reserve price or if the buyer's identity is made public, it might be someone interesting, etc. Because of Covid, auctions aren't being held in crowded rooms as they usually are, and the way the auction is held could give rise to interesting hooks e.g." ... a painting by David Hockney, sold to keep the Royal Opera House solvent during the Corona crisis, was auctioned before an [almost] empty room." 94.139.4.117 (talk) 05:44, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
I like the last idea! The ROH didn't specify a price. Now what about the article title? The painter should not be in it. We could change that now. For the hook, we can just wait for the reports about the auction. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
I adjusted to Portrait of Sir David Webster in the hooks, - Mandarax, could you do your magic for the rest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Done. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:19, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Sold for £12.8 million. No mention of purchaser, naturally. No Swan So Fine (talk) 11:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Sold for £12.8 million and only 8 bidders in the room - someone could perhaps use that info in a hook see https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/christie-s-hockney-sale-roh . Christies obviously wouldn't name the buyer, but they might "out" themselves. I note that the title still hasn't been corrected in the Hockney template.94.139.7.255 (talk) 11:45, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Gerda Arendt, will you be returning to this review, or should we find someone new? It's been four weeks since the most recent comment. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:36, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
    I am waiting for a new hook proposal after the auction. Or was that empty roomexample a proposed hook? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt, No Swan So Fine, and Johnbod: I think this is a good one and is probably best if it gets sent to main page as soon as possible. Here is the ALT that was alluded to above and I believe can be approved fairly quickly: Footlessmouse (talk) 20:48, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes I thought that was acceptable to begin with! No Swan So Fine (talk) 20:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
(ec) Not convinced yet, because it sounds as if the auction prize had been mentioned in the condition to survive. Also: we don't need "London" for attractiveness, - there's a link. Please rephrase. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Try again, I like this one way more because the sale has passed and adding in something about Covid, which is already in the article, gives it context. I am not sure on the reliability of this source, I don't usually these types of articles. I am looking for others, but I personally think ALT4 works well. Footlessmouse (talk) 21:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
The reliability of the source? It was BBC News! No Swan So Fine (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Fine with me, but I'm not reviewing this. Johnbod (talk) 21:44, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Aw. I see what you mean, I like that hook. @No Swan So Fine: Any comments? Gerda was reviewing, I think there's still no conflict here since we ultimately just reworded the hooks that were given above. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 21:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
It's hoplessly clunky. The orinignal hook was fine. Just take out the London bit. No Swan So Fine (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
No idea what you mean by "original" at this point. ALT2? I said why it's factually wrong, the ROH gave no specific price which would be enough to survive. I go to bed now, perhaps you can find some else to approve something. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
This will hopefully steer our discussion awa from the complications of the sale. No Swan So Fine (talk) 00:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest a slight variant on ALT6, since it's usually people rather than lighting who are considered "arrogant" and this is a portrait:
  • ALT6a: ... that the lighting in a portrait by David Hockney has been described as "icily arrogant"? BlueMoonset (talk) 06:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
    I wonder if I should approve one of these once I suggest to use the fact, also because the quite sensational background and price are not even alluded to, - this tells only readers who already know Hockney that this is something special, and I have been told other names I could not rely on our general readership would know. If you tell me I may approve "my own hook" I am willing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 6[]

Houkje Gerrits Bouma

Bouma (right) skating with ‘obscene’ bare arms
Bouma (right) skating with ‘obscene’ bare arms

Created and moved from Draft space to main space by SportsOlympic (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough at 1,801 characters by my count. I'll AGF on the hook reference since I can't read Dutch-language sources, but a few problems prevent me from being able to approve the page for DYK at the moment. First, the article doesn't really support the hook fact. It says the bare arms "caused a commotion", but that just means it received attention. This doesn't back the claim that the act was thought to be obscene. Second, the last sentence is unsourced; a reference should be added to cover this part. Third, two of the four references include unreliable links. Ref 3 includes a Facebook summary, which as a Facebook page is not a reliable source. Print books are reliable sources, so I see no need to even include that link. Ref 4 is to WikiTree, which isn't reliable because it is user-ed like Wikipedia. The sourcing will have to be improved before this gets a check mark. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
    • CommentThanks! All have been solved. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:56, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
      • Thanks for fixing those issues, but before this gets a tick mark, the reference formatting should probably be cleaned up. None of the web links has an access date, and the book in ref 4 needs a page number for verifiability. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:20, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The hook is also rather repetitively worded. Posting a reminder on the nominator's talk page to return to this ASAP. Yoninah (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @SportsOlympic: Please see how I have restored the original thread and marked your revised hook as ALT1. It is not recommended to write over hooks on the template since then it is impossible for other ors and promoters to follow the discussion. Yoninah (talk) 00:58, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Well, now you're writing a complete sentence, not a hook. There must be some way to cut this in half so it is "hooky", not informational. Yoninah (talk) 01:00, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Why wasn’t that mentioned as a first point, as that is important? But no problem is the hook will be changed. SportsOlympic (talk) 21:26, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 11[]

List of National Sports Award recipients in Olympic sports, List of National Sports Award recipients in athletics

Created by Roller26 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Before we go any further with this, please may I request that the word, "Indian", is included in all of these article page names? This is an international site, and I'm guessing that if you don't include "Indian", anyone reading any of those pagenames will at first think that it refers to their own country. You would need to ask an administrator to move the pages to new titles for you. Storye book (talk) 15:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Storye book, request you to go through Talk:National Sports Awards#Requested move 12 October 2020 as I believe the discussion there is relevant for what you are proposing. I am curious as to how someone randomly comes across such pages. The term "National Sports Awards" is only used by India and Bangladesh. The first line of all these pages plus the infobox (numerous times) makes it pretty evident that the award is given by Indian government. I believe the only way readers can come across these pages (other than the DYK listing) is though other Indian sports awards or their templates linking to them, or by direct search in WP or Google. Roller26 (talk) 06:55, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Roller26. I had not seen the discussion. I have struck out my comment above, so that it does not distract the DYK discussion. Storye book (talk) 08:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg @Roller26: I think there is a problem with this nomination in connection with supplementary rule A5 which states "New text seven days old or less can only count toward the 1500 character minimum in one article; if it is duplicated in other nominated new articles, it is ignored for the purpose of character count." So basically, most of the articles are too short. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Marking for closure since the nomination has gone stale, with no progress in over three weeks. Furthermore, seven QPQ crs are still outstanding and it has been over a month since the nomination was submitted. Flibirigit (talk) 17:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I was on wiki-break for few days. Will work on the nominations and make it passable within the next few days. Roller26 (talk) 18:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg No progress has been made in the last week. If the nominator had provided more QPQ crs I could see extending the nomination. QPQ should be supplied within a week of the nomination. This nomination is now over five weeks old and QPQ requirements have not been met. It is time to close this and move on. Flibirigit (talk) 17:30, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I have added 7 more QPQs meeting the entire QPQ requirements Roller26 (talk) 07:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg All ten nominated articles need a review now that QPQs have finally been supplied. Flibirigit (talk) 14:23, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Overall status
Number Article Review status QPQ supplied
1 List of National Sports Award recipients in Olympic sports Symbol question.svg Edward G. Faile
2 List of National Sports Award recipients in athletics Symbol question.svg Eurasian wolf
3 List of National Sports Award recipients in hockey Symbol delete vote.svg Budots
4 List of National Sports Award recipients in wrestling Symbol delete vote.svg This Is My Story (memoir)
5 List of National Sports Award recipients in boxing Symbol delete vote.svg This I Remember
6 List of National Sports Award recipients in shooting Symbol delete vote.svg On My Own (memoir)
7 List of National Sports Award recipients in badminton Symbol delete vote.svg The Autobiography of Eleanor Roosevelt
8 List of National Sports Award recipients in non-Olympic sports Symbol delete vote.svg Meenakshi Pahuja
9 List of National Sports Award recipients in cricket Symbol possible vote.svg Florence Lewis (activist)
10 List of National Sports Award recipients in parasports Symbol delete vote.svg Eric Kimaiyo
List of National Sports Award recipients in Olympic sports review

General eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg This review is for List of National Sports Award recipients in Olympic sports only. I am taking it that the first paragraph in the header of all of these articles is common to all, therefore we have to exclude that paragraph from readable text in assessment for DYK. This article has 1480 characters of readable text allowable for DYK assessment, so we need at least 20 more characters. Storye book (talk) 17:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

List of National Sports Award recipients in athletics review
Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Image is freely licensed. QPQ done. I'm only unsure how the hook is verified in this article; perhaps it isn't. Yoninah (talk) 22:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in hockey review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in wrestling review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:34, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in boxing review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:35, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in shooting review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in badminton review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in non-Olympic sports review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in cricket review
Symbol possible vote.svg New enough. Since most of the lead text is repeated in the other articles, I'm only looking at the Recipients section and seeing only 1356 characters. Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
I should also note that about 340 characters of text about Sachin Tendulkar has been copied from List of Arjuna Award recipients (1990–1999). Per Rule A5, this text needs to be expanded 5x in the current article, which would push the required length to at least 1700 characters of new text. Yoninah (talk) 11:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
List of National Sports Award recipients in parasports review
Symbol delete vote.svg The text is so close and repetitive to the other articles that there is not 1500 characters of anything new. Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
General discussion
  • @ Flibirigit. I have only done one review because I am distracted with decrypting a collection of encoded postcards for Commons right now. However I should be able to do one or two more article reviews if necessary (ask me if you need to). You will need to call in more reviewers for the rest, though. Storye book (talk) 17:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I have divided the template into sections for each nominated article to help track the review process. Anyone is welcome to comment or do a review. Flibirigit (talk) 23:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I have added a QPQ column so that each QPQ can be checked by the reviewer of one of the articles, rather than all 10 at once. Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Is the hook really that interesting? I don't think so. The way the articles are bolded, they could be about the generic sports rather than the National Sports Awards for those sports. Yoninah (talk) 22:21, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Several of the articles have images with no image caption. Yoninah (talk) 22:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 15[]

Sandister Tei

Sandister Tei
Sandister Tei
  • Reviewed: John F. Yardley
  • Comment: I'm no good at hooks. Hopefully somebody else can suggest a better one.

Created by Pigsonthewing (talk), Ritchie333 (talk), Enock4seth (talk), and TJMSmith (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 16:55, 20 October 2020 (UTC).


  • While the hooks are probably interesting to Wikipedia users and enthusiasts, aren't both hooks rather WP:NAVELy? Maybe something could also be said about her non-Wikimedian career? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Just three issues: (1) Earwig found one sentence about Tei's university studies here which mirrors a sentence in the article. However the sentence appeared first in the WP article, therefore the yen.com source has copied that phrase from WP. Other independent material appears on that yen.com page, though, so I believe that for the other material it is valid to use the source as a citation in the article. As the article was developed, WP and yen.com were reading each other. However, to keep everything clearly aboveboard, I suggest that the sentence in the WP article ("Tei is an alumna of the University of Ghana, where she studied geography, and of Cardiff University where she undertook an MA in international journalism on a Tullow Group scholarship.") is rephrased now. (2) I do not understand the phrase, "promoting an increase in coverage on African topics instead Wikimedia projects". Do you mean "coverage of" and "instead of"? But does that mean ditching Wikimedia projects? I'm guessing that the intention is probably fine, but the awkward language is concealing that intention. (3) About the hook and the comment about being navelly: it would be great to adjust one of the hooks to include the fact that she is a Citifilm journalist, and/or that she has been a journalist with Al Jazeera's parent company. If these three issues can be resolved, then this will be a good one for DYK in my opinion. Storye book (talk) 11:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Storye book: I have fixed the first two issues, the former by copying it, the latter by looking at the source and concluding the prose meant to say "promoting an increase in coverage on African topics on Wikimedia projects". I'll have a think about the hook, I just hoped somebody else would have turned up to the nomination now and suggested one, given the attention Wikimedians of the Year tend to get. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:08, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for resolving issues (1) and (2). I have amended the review accordingly. I look forward to seeing the new hook. Storye book (talk) 10:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
No comment either way on ALT2, but personally it could work even without the Citi FM mention since Citi FM would be less visible to international readers than Al Jazeera. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 18[]

Agelenopsis aperta

5x expanded by Mlschoening (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Comments by Tbhotch
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol voting keep.svg QPQ unrequired (first DYK); Symbol voting keep.svg AGF on offline source citing the hook and the article; I assume that the phrase "Experiments have shown that the cataplectic state is induced by pheromones from the males" said in the hook here is not part of the hook per se. (CC) Tbhotch 21:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

  • @Tbhotch: This was nominated 16 days too late. SL93 (talk) 01:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
@SL93: Ah yes, I saw it from here. @Mlschoening: 16px You had to nominated during that week. (CC) Tbhotch 01:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
However, on second thought Symbol possible vote.svg as the article is currently reviewed at GAN. So, if approved, it can go, But may that require a new nomination? (CC) Tbhotch 01:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
As long as this template is open, the nomination can proceed with a GA. But how long will we have to wait? Yoninah (talk) 23:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, the initial review was completed on 22 November, and is awaiting Mlschoening to address the issues raised. It's hard to predict how long the next steps will take, but with any luck it won't be overlong. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:10, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Checking further, it appears that Mlschoening worked on this article (and nominated it at GA) as part of a course that ends in mid-December. Pinging Ian (Wiki Ed), who is listed as a resource for that class, in the hopes that the GA nomination will be responded to by the student. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, I just sent the student an email, asking them to reply or leave a note as to when they will be able to. Thanks for the ping. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 21[]

Chisapani Gadhi

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 18:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Article is new enough and long enough. AGFing on the various Nepali sources. I am bothered by the similarity between The fort, which is spread on four bighas of land, was constructed in 1801BS during the rule of the Sen king in Makwanpur. The fort was used for military, administrative, trade and immigration purposes after the annexation of Makwanpur to Nepal in 1819 BS. Historians said there was a court, a check post and an office of Badahakim, a post equivalent to the governor of the region, on the premises of the fort. in the source and The Chisapani Gadhi is an ancient fort in Bhimphedi that was built during the unification of Nepal around the Sen rule in Makwanpur.[1] After it was annexed to the Kingdom of Nepal, it was used for military, administrative, trade and immigration.[1] Some historians say that in the fort there was a "court, a check post and an office of Badahakim, a post equivalent to the governor of the region".[1] , even with the quote it comes off like close paraphrasing. The grammar is also a little off - "military, administrative, trade and immigration", " and she added that local resident created a rumour that she died." and "Gadhi was being renovation and conservation" are just examples. Why is the funding provided by the provincial government not included? I am not sure that #2 mentions the fort in the context given. The image is properly licenced but it appears to be located in a different fort than the article claims. QPQ is low-hanging fruit, but passable. Hook is interesting and sourced inline, but the article has too many issues for me to feel comfortable approving it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Some grammar fixes are still needed. Also, I've asked for a Nepali reader to check the sources at WT:DYK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Nepali: "चिसापानी गढीको कारणले नै युद्ध गर्न आएका अङ्ग्रेजहरु यस क्षेत्रमा आउन नसकेर सिमभन्ज्याङतर्फ मोडिन बाध्य भएको इतिहास रहेको छ" Source
  • English: The Britsh came to attack the Chisapani Gadhi but they could not so they went to Sim Bhanjyang instead.
  • Nepali: "कर्नेल रणवीरसिंह थापा मुख्य कमान्डर । कोशी नदी पश्चिम र नारायणी नदी पूर्वको सेक्टर कमान्डर थिए । उनले सुमेश्वर गढी, उपरदाङ गढी, कविलास गढी, कान्द्राङ गढी, चिसापानी गढी, मकवानपुर किल्ला, ढुंगे गढी, डढुवा गढी, हरिहरपुर गढी, अम्वास गढी, हरिहरपुर किल्ला, सिन्धुली गढी, उदयपुर गढी, चौदण्डी गढी लगायत सेना तैनाथी गराए" Source
  • English: Ranabir Singh Thapa was in charge of the west and east of Narayani River. He deployed soldiers in .....(the source talks about others forts he had put forces in)........ Chisapani Gadhi.
  • Nepali: "चिसापानीमा बटुक भैरवको मन्दिर छ, जहाँ महिलालाई प्रवेश निषेध छ" Source
  • English: There is a temple where females are not allowed.
  • Nepali: "यस विषयमा बेलाबेला महिला अधिकारवादीले आवाज उठाई रहेका पनि छन्" Source
  • English: In the past, females have protested against the "no females allowed" rule.
  • Nepali: "मन्दिरमा प्रवेश गरे अनिष्ट हुने र ज्यान नै जान सक्ने मनोवैज्ञानिक त्रास फैलाइएको छ । तोप पड्काउँदाको आवाजले महिलाको गर्भ खेर गएकाले जान हुँदैन भन्ने मान्यता रहेको स्थानीयहरू बताउँछन्" source
  • English: If a female goes inside they will become unlucky or die. Some people say the when the big cannon was fired the noise that came from it caused some miscarriages.
  • Nepali: "२०६० मंसीरमा पहिलो पटक त्यहाँ पुगेकी हुँ। पत्रकारिता तालिमको सहभागी भएर स्थलगत भ्रमणमा गढी जाँदा महिलाले तोप हेर्न नहुने र मन्दिर पनि जान नहुने भनेर लेखिएको सूचना देखेपछि छक्क परें । साथीहरू र तालिमका प्रशिक्षकले नजानू भने पनि पसें । मेरो घर हेटौंडा भएकाले त्यो बाटो परेका वेला र त्यसपछि पनि पटक पटक मन्दिर पसेकी छु "। source
  • English: I went there in 2060 N.S.. I was surprised by the sign which read no females allowed. My friends told me not to go but I went anyway. I live in Hetuda so I have travelled this road many times and visited the temple.
  • Nepali: "मलाई आजसम्म कुनै अनिष्ट भएको छैन, तर चिसापानीतिर मेरो बारे ४/५ वर्षअघिसम्म अफवाह चलेको रहेछ । चिसापानी गढी नजिकैको होटलतिर ‘१५/१६ वर्षअघि पत्रकारको टोलीमा आएकी एउटी केटी मन्दिरभित्र पसेकी थिई, पछि मरिछ’ भन्दा रहेछन् । मान्छे मरेको कुरा पनि केही आधार नभई गर्दा रहेछन् भन्ने प्रमाण हो यो" source
  • English: I am not dead as of now. The people in Chisapani told others about my death (about four or five years ago). ......................
  • So what happened to the DYKAGF rule. Anyway, I translated the whole article for you. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but when close paraphrasing is involved then I look a bit more closely than DYKAGF would warrant. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I hope this is enough. I would gladly assist with copying also, if that would be desirable. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. That said, Symbol redirect vote 4.svg as it looks like the source interpretation is a wee bit liberal - "Women rights activists have raised their voice on this subject from time to time" does not automatically equal "many" nor "protested against"; I've certainly seen feminists defending the burqa so I would not categorically assume that in such cases it's "protested against". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
In context, it does mean "protested against" though it's an intellectual protest not a physical one ("spoken out against" may be better), but yes, "many women" should be "women rights activists". Another thing I noticed was the claim "she reported that she did not have any miscarriages"; I don't remember seeing that in the source. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 01:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: @Usedtobecool: Where does this nomination stand? Maybe it should be failed. SL93 (talk) 08:13, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
It needs a new review; I am a bit too uneasy with the source interpretation and am not familiar enouh with the culture to evaluate it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 25[]

1907 Skowhegan textile strike

Created by Namiba (talk). Self-nominated at 14:19, 26 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough. The passage "an increase in wages, the dismissal of an overseer they accused of sexual harassment, the abolition of fines for workers, and workers’ representation on an arbitration committee" appears twice in the prose. In the second instance, it's not given as a direct quote and that's therefore a copy-violation; this needs fixing. Earwig's Copyvio Detector is otherwise happy. Namiba has 11 DYKs to their cr (according to DYK notices, or 24 DYKs according to their user page) and a QPQ is therefore required but missing as yet. Both hooks check out. I find the original hook (ALT0) more interesting. Schwede66 19:22, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the repeated text and added a bit of context regarding the politics of the IWW. As for how many DYK's I've contributed to, I think the correct number is actually 28, but I haven't written any since 2011 so it's impossible to recall.--User:Namiba 19:48, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I see. A new rule since then is that you have to review another DYK as part of nominating your own; that's what "QPQ" (quid pro quo) refers to. Schwede66 19:58, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Namiba, do you plan on continuing with this nomination? It's been over three weeks since the above exchange. There are resources available on conducting a DYK review, if you need assistance; most of them are available as links in the box at the top of this page when you're in the or. Please let us know your plans. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:52, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The nominator does not appear to be ing since that last post. Marking for closure as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 20:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
My apologies, I forgot to respond here. I do plan to continue with the nomination. I will complete a DYK review over the weekend.--User:Namiba 12:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Superseding prior icon with this one pending the promised QPQ review. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Illinois Confederation

Created/expanded by Gloriasiyoungkoo (talk). Self-nominated at 00:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol delete vote.svg (t · c) buidhe 10:34, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg buidhe, I'm wondering why you say this is not expanded sufficiently. In the immediately prior to the day of expansion, October 25, the article had 3786 prose characters, which would require a minimum post-expansion length of 18,930, while the current length is 19,592, clearly over that length. The article is less than an hour late to meet the seven-day requirement, which I think is certainly allowable given that this is a first-time nomination by a new Wikipedian who has expanded the article as part of an online WikiEd course and may not be used to our pegging things to UTC. Pinging Ian (Wiki Ed), in the hopes that he can work with the nominator; buidhe, perhaps you can do a more complete review so we know where this stands and what the nominator has to work with. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I would certainly be willing to waive that for a first-time or, and I removed the POV tag since there doesn't seem to be an ongoing dispute with the current version of the article. However, the sourcing issues with this article are very serious. (t · c) buidhe 02:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset and Buidhe: I emailed the instructor and asked them to nudge the student, who may not have seen the message on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Note that another or has removed a section on language and with it 1002 prose characters, bringing the article down to 18,590 prose characters, which is 340 prose characters short of a 5x expansion. In addition, there is now a "failed verification" template on top of the sourcing issues buidhe noted. Ian (Wiki Ed), it's been over two weeks without the issues being addressed, so the nudge doesn't seem to have worked. How long do you think we should give before closing out this nomination, assuming we haven't passed that point already? BlueMoonset (talk) 08:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: It's probably best to close it at this point. Thanks for your willingness to work with these students. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:08, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Closing per above; nominator has still not responded and is unlikely to. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:32, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg buidhe, it looks like the author got the length back above 5x, and has added sourcing, including regarding the "failed verification" one. Can you please check to see whether the sourcing issues remain? If so, by all means restore the "X" icon; if not, or if they're very close to being resolved, would you mind continuing the review? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:29, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Pinging Ian (Wiki Ed) again, since the or did address some issues, though there are still sourcing concerns. Should we leave it open for further improvement, or do you still believe that it's best to close the nomination? Thanks for returning to let us know. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Adding: this will need another hook as well. If this continues, can you suggest one? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 27[]

Die Schutzbefohlenen

Scene at the Burgtheater, 2015
Scene at the Burgtheater, 2015
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: I'm sorry, I am late again, and this time I simply forgot to nominate, - it was long and sourced enough from the beginning - I think.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:57, 4 November 2020 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol question.svg I am happy to ignore 1 day late because you are such a nice or (: (t · c) buidhe 10:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for review and lenience - please remember that this was 2013, not 2016 when it got hotter. I am often told that catching attraction is more important than precision in a hook, - not that I agree. - Agree that the article could be better, there's MUCH more in German, if someone is inclined and has the time. - Will look here again later. (Someone died who has no article, and I had an article plan for today.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
ps: what's the expression for values we took from the ancient Greeks? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Clerodendrum quadriloculare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Buidhe, I reworded the value thing, please check.
ALT1: ... that Die Schutzbefohlenen (Charges or The Supplicants), a 2013 text by Elfriede Jelinek critical of refugee politics at the time, was staged in Vienna in 2015 (scene pictured)?
I'd hesitate to restrict it to the EU, for a global audience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
OK, but this is really vague. Critical of which refugee politics, and how? I mean, neo-Nazis were also "critical of refugee politics at the time", from the other direction. (t · c) buidhe 20:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Gerda, can we finish this up please? Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    Do you have an idea? I'm reviewing (Buidhe's) at the moment, then will turn to the musicologist who died. We can't retell the play in on sentence, but also can't say nothing about it. Help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    ALT2: ... that although Die Schutzbefohlenen (Charges or The Supplicants) was written by Elfriede Jelinek as language art for Vienna in 2013, it was performed as a reading in Hamburg that year, and was staged at the Burgtheater two years later (scene pictured)?

Articles created/expanded on October 30[]

Mitchell Miller (ice hockey)

Moved to mainspace by Bait30 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough. And the hook is technically accurate. However, I have two significant concerns here. First, the hook misleadingly suggests he was a top pick in the NHL draft when, in fact, he chosen in the fourth round with the 111th pick (Arizona traded or forfeited its picks in the first three rounds). Second, the article concerns an amateur athlete who has received significant coverage principally for his conviction in a juvenile court of bullying a developmentally disabled teen. This raises a significant WP:BLP1E concerns. Cbl62 (talk) 20:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
The publicity given to the incident is particularly troubling given that Ohio juvenile court records and proceedings are designated confidential by law. See here, page 11 ("Most court and police records about your juvenile case in Ohio are confidential and not available to the public, which means that people cannot find information about your juvenile record the same way they can look up information about an adult criminal record."). Several media outlets ignored this policy, but I do not think Wikipedia should be exacerbating the situation on its most viewed page. Cbl62 (talk) 20:32, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I personally don't think BLP1E applies because he received coverage from reliable sources for hockey-related stuff before his controversy was exposed. However, I do understand not wanting to put it on the front page due to the weight of the bullying incident in the article.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Understood. It would be helpful to get input from DYK gurus before making a final call on this one. @Gatoclass: @Yoninah: @Cwmhiraeth: @Maile66: Could one or more of you weigh in on the appropriateness of featuring this on the Main Page? Cbl62 (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg The hook focuses on negative aspects of a person's life. If there is nothing nice to say, it should not be included in DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 03:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Flibirigit: @Cbl62: Would this work?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 22:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Thanks for coming up with a different hook. Alt1 is short enough, interesting enough, accurate, and backed by in-line citation. However, in running an earwig copyvio test on the article, an issue was detected that can be seen here. In particular, there is an extended quote from Coyotes General Manager Bill Armstrong that is drawn directly from an Azcentral piece. You will need to fix this before the article can appear on the Main Page. Cbl62 (talk) 22:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Alt 1 good to go. Cbl62 (talk) 01:03, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but while the all-USHL selection is mentioned and cited, there is no cite for the 33 points as a defenseman. Yoninah (talk) 13:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Done.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 19:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
The "Career statistics" section needs a citation for the chart. I suggest using hockeydb.com or eliteprospects.com for this. Cheers. Flibirigit (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Pinging @Bait30: for the cite for the chart. Yoninah (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  • The chart is now sourced. Flibirigit (talk) 19:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you both. Restoring tick per Cbl62's review. Yoninah (talk) 20:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg Per this discussion at WP:ERRORS, this hook was pulled from the main page. A more suitable hook is required for this article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 00:32, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

I made sure to link "general manager" because it's usage in sports is mainly confined to the US and Canada and I don't want English speakers to be confused with my usage of American. I found out just how different American is from English, so I made sure to add an excess amount of context. That way, an actual English speaker could come by and hopefully whittle it down and translate it into proper English.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 03:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
ALT2 is far too long (above the 200 character limit). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: I think the nominator is making a point. Just strike it and help approve this please. Yoninah (talk) 20:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I was being extra WP:POINT-y last night and I’m sorry about that. I won’t be able to make proper adjustments right now as I’m not at my laptop. I’ll try shorten the hooks later.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
I've struck ALT2 but the possibility of a shorter hook based on that remains. As for ALT3, the words "hockey" and "league" are used multiple times in the hook, although in the case of "ice hockey" it may be unavoidable since the consensus was to specify that the hockey in question is of the ice variety. "League" is used three times and at least one of them probably needs to go to avoid redundancy. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, that’s one of the reasons I disagreed and overreacted. Here’s a new alt:
ALT4: ... that league executives voted ice hockey player Mitchell Miller as one of the best blueliners in the United States Hockey League?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 01:14, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Are you going to review this hook, or should I put the red DYK?again icon and request a new review?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 18:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Probably need a new review, I was just helping out here with the "new hook needed" discussion. Pinging Cbl62 and Flibirigit for their thoughts on the new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:03, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New review is needed here. Flibirigit (talk) 00:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I think the new hook (alt4) is fine. It's short, hooky (the "blueliner" bit is good as non-hockey fans may be intrigued by what that is), and accurate. The only hesitation I have is that the article/source don't literally say he was "selected as one of the best defencmen/blueliners". Instead, they say he was selected to the All-USHL team. Most anyone familiar with team sports knows that those two things are the same, i.e., that all-conference honors means a player is being selected as one of the best in the league at his position. All in all, I think it's an accurate hook. Cbl62 (talk) 00:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Cbl62, I thought so too, but the people in the discussion Lee linked above thought it was complete gibberish and unworthy of the front page. Someone told me that “this is English Wikipedia, not American Wikipedia”.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 01:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 31[]

True Pole

Created by Staszek Lem (talk). Nominated by Buidhe (talk) at 09:13, 1 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, size, refs, neutrality, hook, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ, all ok, with a strong preference to the short main hook. ALT2 is from a newspaper and debatable, and alt1 is historical trivia about a single individual. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:55, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Please provide an inline cite for the hook fact in the article per WP:DYK#Cited hook. Yoninah (talk) 19:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
    • @Yoninah:The correct hook would be ALT0a: ... that a stereotypical True Pole is a Roman Catholic? ( only at the beginning of the 20th century they came to mean the declaration that the only proper Pole ought to be a Catholic - Brian Porter-Szűcs, "The Birth of the 'Polak-Katolik'", Sprawy Narodowościowe, no. 49, 2017, doi:10.11649/sn.1280 Lembit Staan (talk) 06:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Lembit Staan: this is a hook, designed to catch the reader's eye and get him to click on the article to read more. But we cannot promote it without an inline cite for the hook fact in the article. This applies to this sentence: A particular trait of "True Poles" is their adherence to Roman Catholicism. If this is not cited by the end of this week, the nomination will be marked for closure as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 17:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    • I already answered: "the only proper Pole ought to be a Catholic". If you have problems with comprehension, not my problem. I dislike DYK anyway. Lembit Staan (talk) 17:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 2[]

Accounting and Finance Association of Australia and New Zealand

5x expanded by Tinylucy191 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Thank you for contributing to DYK. Per the DYK rules, the article needs to be nominated within 7 days of creation or expansion. Your expansion began on November 2 but you nominated it 14 days later. In addition, this is not a 5x expansion. Before expansion began on 20 June, the character count was 987. As of 10 November, the character count is 4391, about 500 characters short of a 5x expansion. (List text doesn't count.) Meanwhile, the article is tagged for notability and sourcing. At a glance, most of the sources are primary sources to the organization itself. Unless you can increase the character count and add more reliable sources to confirm notability, I'm afraid this doesn't qualify for DYK. Yoninah (talk) 00:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 3[]

Humcha Jain temples

Panchkuta Basadi, Humcha
Panchkuta Basadi, Humcha

Created by Pratyk321 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:57, 3 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Prose size enough (5377 characters (861 words)), created 1 day before nomination, hook short enough, content interesting, QPQ not required.Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 10:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry, but all these hooks need copying for English grammar, and so does the article. The whole lead is not subscribing to English grammar: The Humcha Jain temples or Humcha basadis are a group Jain temples in the Humcha, Shimoga district in Karnataka, India. Constructed from 7th century during the reign of the Santara dynasty, Humcha is one of the great Jain centers of Karnataka, noted for their elaborate architecture. A quick glance at the body shows the second sentence also has problems: Jinadatta, of Solar dynasty, a royal prince of Mathura, flee from his home city in the north due to family reasons., and I'm sure there's more. Please apply at WP:GOCE for a copy. Yoninah (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi Yoninah, Thanks a lot. I have requested for help on WP:GOCE on 3rd November 2020. I'll ping you once the issues with this article get resolved. Thanks and regards - Pratyk321 (talk)

Articles created/expanded on November 4[]

Sean Cole

Created by Esprit15d (talk). Self-nominated at 16:26, 10 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Note: The nominator has less than 5 DYK crs and so is not required to submit a QPQ yet. The QPQ that was submitted was not a full review. Yoninah (talk) 15:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi there, I began the review but ran into the issue that right now the entry does not have much independent secondary source coverage of Cole, necessary to ward off any concerns this entry may not meet WP:NPERSON. Are more sources available to be incorporated? This is the kind of entry I write most often and unfortunately it can happen that journalists are not themselves the subject of profiles written by others, leaving them ineligible for WP even if they are quite famous. But hopefully there’s more available? Innisfree987 (talk) 00:53, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi Esprit15d, a ping to make sure you’d like to go forward with this DYK. I have added to the entry and I think it is within bounds now, but I’d like to have another DYK reviewer check my work. Just wanted to make sure you were still interested first. Thanks! Innisfree987 (talk) 17:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Molly Gray

  • Reviewed: IOU

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 21:41, 9 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was moved to mainspace in time and is adequately long and sourced. QPQ remains pending. The hooks are cited inline; however the article doesn't explicitly mention her being a "competitive skier". In addition, one of the sources (the "archives" one) gives a 404 error, while the other source makes no mention of her skiing career. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:38, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, she skied for the University of Vermont, as mentioned in the article. How better could it be worded? I corrected the link for the 404 error. QPQ forthcoming. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Maybe the hook could instead say that she skied for the UV rather than the "competitive" wording? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew

Articles created/expanded on November 5[]

Barbara L. Kelly

Barbara Kelly in 2019
Barbara Kelly in 2019

Created by Aklein62 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Artcle is new, long enough and neıtral. It cites sources inline. Two missing citations are indicated. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports two relative-high rated text similarities, which result mostly from entries in the "Selected writings" section, which is not included in the DYK text. Therefore, no problem for text similarities. The hook is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Missing citation for the accuracy of the hook fact is indicated. QPQ was done. Image is included in the article, and is ©-free. I will aprove after the citation issue is addressed. CeeGee 11:56, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you. I hope Aklein62 can help with referencing the youth. The hook fact is part of a quotation, first of two sentences. I think it would be nonsense to repeat the ref after the fist sentence, just for DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for this initiative. About the first paragraph: I've received this information from Barbara Kelly directly. I have asked her if she can find a quotable source, and she is currently looking into the matter. Not sure, though, whether she can find any. If she can, it would be an old newspaper report. If not, we would have to live with the cn issue remaining open. – Aklein62 (talk) 13:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but that first paragraph needs some citations per Rule D2. If you cannot find a citation for her birthdate, you must remove it. BTW all facts in an article must be attributable to reliable, published sources. Hearing them from someone, even the subject herself, is not enough. Yoninah (talk) 00:15, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
    • Symbol delete vote.svg I removed the unsourced birthdate but there are still a few "citation needed" tags. The nominator has indicated that he does not want to pursue the nomination. Yoninah (talk) 19:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
      I removed the facts without ref. I understand that the author doesn't want to work more, but would find it sad if we wouldn't showcase her research, Yoninah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
  • The page creator doesn't agree with you, Gerda. Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    I tried to focus on the subject, instead of us ors, but have to accept. We have many biographies that begin with studies. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 6[]

A Little Lower Than the Angels (novel)

Created by Bassknight(byu) (talk). Self-nominated at 21:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As most sources are offline, unable to check for close paraphrasing. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK crs.
  • Please look at how I ed the article to bring it in line with other Wikipedia book articles.
  • Neither hook is accurate. ALT0 is rather wordy and includes a quote that doesn't appear in the article. ALT1 is so-so in terms of interest but the article says it was her great-grandparents, not her grandparents. If you have any corrections or new hook ideas, please add them to the bottom of this thread. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Valereee: this is no different than other ors who have (byu) in their usernames. They use the LDS library to write about LDS subjects, but try to be factual and impartial. This is a new or who is still learning Wikipedia style. Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, his user page says he's paid by the library to create articles about them. —valereee (talk) 19:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
@Valereee: This is the same statement given by User:Rachel Helps (BYU), our first and longtime BYU or, and User:Cstickel(byu). Yoninah (talk) 19:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, do we have consensus on whether this is a major COI or not? I've seen Rachel Helps around before, but the statement that "I am an employee at the Harold B. Lee library at Brigham Young University (BYU), hired to write and Wikipedia articles related to the University and its history" is pretty plain. Have we had an RfC on this at COIN? —valereee (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
valereee I am not aware of any consensus. I've been reviewing these articles for years and they all seem straightforward and impartial. Yoninah (talk) 20:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, I'm really uncomfortable with it. If we haven't had one, maybe we need an RfC. I believe the Mormons are a well-intentioned lot. I don't believe they'd intentionally violate our rules. That doesn't mean they don't have a COI that needs to be examined. —valereee (talk) 20:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
@Valereee: OK, go ahead and open an RfC. These are the 3 ors that I'm aware of. Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah: Thank you for your help with this article! This is my first original article, and definitely was showing it. How flexible can these hooks be grammar-wise? I know that they need to be quotes from the article itself, but most of the sentences in the article don't make sense on their own without the context/antecedents. Should I the article to repeat book and person names more frequently? My next best idea for a hook would be from the "Publication" section: "The success of the novel outside of Utah was cred in some part to the open way Sorensen portrayed this early Mormon culture in a human, unthreatening way." I'll work with Rachel to get you something better. Thank you again! Bassknight(byu) (talk) 19:57, 30 November 2020‎ (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 10[]

Ruth Williams Cupp

Poster for Ruth Williams Cupp
Poster for Ruth Williams Cupp

Created/expanded by Remember (talk). Self-nominated at 19:00, 11 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg What is happening with the image licensing? Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
I am working on it. Been busy with personal matters but will get to it shortly. Remember (talk) 20:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
So the info on this picture is that it was bought and paid for by Ruth Cupp herself. She had professional pictures taken of her back in the day (like glamour shots). And now those that manage her estate had this picture. I can have them write an email to that effect. Is that what should be done? Remember (talk) 02:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Copyright of photographs generally belongs to the photographer/agency unless contractually stated otherwise. If the Cupp estate now owns copyright, they will need to provide clear evidence of permission. Please see Commons:OTRS, especially the section If you are NOT the copyright holder. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:10, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Added different images. Remember (talk) 16:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 11[]

Alligator Rainwear

Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 01:20, 17 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Unless the intention was to make the hook vague on purpose (or invite readers to read the Alligator link), I don't think the hook works unless you know what PVC is or are familiar with Quant. Could something less vague be suggested here too? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes it is deliberately ambiguous and intended for the final slot as there are no suitable free images for a picture hook. I think ALT1 will make a good hook there. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:35, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, surely all hooks ought to aim to get the reader to click on a link. Quant, Dior and Chanel have been called the three most important fashion designers of the 20th century. PVC is a commonly used and well-known material, not just in fashion. Edwardx (talk) 11:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps the hook could work as an AFD hook with the current wording, but otherwise it still seems too vague personally. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

M. P. Alladin

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 19:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting influential life, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I'd like to polish a bit on the original hook, finding the other a bit not specific enough. I think Indo-Trinidadian is a tricky expression to start with, and rather think it could begin "that in Trinidad and Tobago, ...", without link - for current countries, which goes also for the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks so much Gerda Arendt, and I appreciate your help with the hook (I know I'm out of my depth when I try to write about art and artists). What do you think of the Alts 2 and 3? Guettarda (talk) 06:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I think your writing is fine, and we just need to overcome my language limits which may be similar to those of other readers. Having thouht about it, I think we might drop the whole long place name, and create a pipe for the impossible Indo-Trinidadian and Tobagonian which I misunderstood! Only when looking it up did I realise that it actually means "from India" here. Perhaps "people in Trinidad with origin in India"? "Indian" is too ambiguous. I think for the hook, we should drop Tobago, and we might specify just Trinidad after his birth place, and in that place's article. And portrayal is more for portraits, no? My take:
ALT2a: ... that M. P. Alladin depicted rural life of people in Trinidad with origin in India in his paintings, and has been cred with giving "a new dignity" to the topic?
ALT2b: ... that M. P. Alladin depicted rural life of people in Trinidad with origin from India in his art, and has been cred with giving "a new dignity" to the subject?
Or comibinations of the elements. - I always like to meet your name which has all of "my" letters in the same order ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 12[]

Yusuf Sayfa

Improved to Good Article status by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 02:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The nomination still needs a QPQ requirement. Please be aware that a QPQ is expected to be completed within a week of nomination. Thank you. Flibirigit (talk) 14:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. A full review is still needed. Flibirigit (talk) 16:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

West Bank bantustans

Palestinian-controlled West Bank
Palestinian-controlled West Bank

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 09:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg POV failure, duplicates existing articles. 11Fox11 (talk) 15:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
This is the wrong forum. Your blanking is not consistent with WP:DELETE. You are welcome to open a deletion discussion, then we can get back to this afterwards. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
The POV problems in the article are beyond repair, the article duplicates existing articles. 11Fox11 (talk) 19:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
I see that you have never submitted or reviewed at DYK before. I suggest you review the policies and procedures here before commenting further.
Please explain your issues with the article at the talk page so we can proceed constructively. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
The premise that there are Bantustans is inherently POV premise which couldn't be fixed also like it was pointed is WP:POVFORK of West Bank Areas in the Oslo II Accord --Shrike (talk) 09:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
This is the wrong forum. You can call them what you want (islands? enclaves? patchwork? fragments?) but they are real. No respectable source denies that. The sources used in the article are of the highest quality. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Comment The article is one sided POV fest with chosen Pro-Palestinian POV authors to push a Bantustan concept in to I/P conflict. Its never could be a DYK material --Shrike (talk) 08:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Shrike, sorry but you are wrong. Let’s discuss on the article talk page (your sources appear to have failed verification), and then come back here afterwards. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Did you actually read both sources before making your claim? --Shrike (talk) 10:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Given that the article is still there and discussions have been going forth on the article talk page, a new review is clearly needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Micromégas

Created by Alank202 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Unfortunately, this does not meet the core requirement for DYK, which is that it be new or five-times expanded within the last seven days. The article is not new, as it has existed since 2004, and its recent expansion is only about two-times expanded, from 3587 B (610 words) readable prose size before to 7127 B (1193 words) readable prose size now.
In addition, the article has two unaddressed maintenance notices at the top related to sourcing. The two newly added sections also have some tone problems – they read more like student essays than the expected phrasing of a Wikipedia article. There are also some appearances glitches such as the inclusion of "[][]" in two section headers. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Alank202, while it will require a great deal of work to increase the article from the original 3587 prose characters to 17935 prose characters, you may still be working on the article for your class, which ends next month. (You would also need to address the maintenance notices and work on the prose per the original reviewer.) If you don't think you'll be able to do this, let us know and we'll close the nomination now; otherwise, please let us know your plans for the article. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 13[]

Gernot Roll

Gernot Roll in 2015
Gernot Roll in 2015

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC).


QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Article is clean. Couple of quick questions. Filmography section is not sourced within the segment. I know this article went recently to homepage / RD, so, the sourcing must be good, but, I am not able to see the links. Also, is there something we can do on the hook's interestingness? Is there anything about these two works in particular that makes them interesting? Cheeers. Ktin (talk) 16:57, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

I duplicated the ref. Well, I picked two titles that sound attractive in English, and show a long career and diversity. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, Thanks Gerda. The leading line says "films for which Roll was the cinematographer" but the table below says "Director", please can we fix that as well. Not fully convinced on the interestingness of the two movies in specific. Is there anything else that can be an interesting hook? Don't get me wrong, but, as a cinematographer one would have movies for which they would have handled cinematography for. Not sure that is interesting per se. But, if you do not find something more interesting, perhaps we go with what you have.Ktin (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't think we list one where he was also director, because they didn't get articles in English, and his photography was what got him prizes, not directing. - What would interest you? The film about Mann's novel was received as spectacular, but there's not much room in a hook. Would people know the names of directors if mentioned? I can't tell. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt Marked the citation complete. Also, marked the interestingness portion complete. Should be good to go. If there is a more interesting hook, I am open to reviewing that. Let me know. Cheers.Ktin (talk) 18:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Ktin: you should also check for hookiness. Oh, you did. But you approved it anyway. Why is this hooky? If I don't know who he is and have never heard of these films, why would I click on this? Yoninah (talk) 17:42, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, Greetings. I do not know what you mean by "hooky". If you meant interestingness, you will see that I have asked the question above and have AGF by marking interestingness portion complete. You will see that specific note (suggesting that if an alternate / more interesting hook comes available that should be used) in my summary as well. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 17:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ktin: "Did you know that ... X=Y" is not considered a hook. I can assure you that no one will click on this, and it certainly does not belong in the image slot. If another hook cannot be found, this should be closed as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 17:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah:, I do not dispute anything of what you say and in fact you will see that my messages above are in agreement to what you are suggesting. However, I want you and myself to be respectful of the other person (in this case the nominator) 's perspective on interestingness. Interestingness is a subjective construct and the nominator does provide a rationale in one of the comments. Also, I do not follow what you mean by "does not belong in the image slot". Please feel free to proceed as you feel fit. Good luck.Ktin (talk) 18:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Can you give me a direction? It's not a subject I know much about. With all these awards, he deserves to be remembered, and I'd find mentioning awards much more boring than what he actually did. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • You're right, there's almost nothing to work with here. How about:
  • ALT1: ... that Gernot Roll (pictured), a founding member of the Deutsche Filmakademie, was regarded as a master of literary films?
  • But I don't see this in footnote 1; please verify the translation there. Yoninah (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, please don't take my comment as a 'tit-for-tat'. But, I dont think the above statement is interesting either. A founded B and was good at making C films. Ktin (talk) 18:11, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ktin: You're right. And there's nothing else to work with here. The whole article is a series of facts without any "color" (detail, description of those facts). But ALT0 is the same as saying: "Did you know ... that D. W. Griffith filmed The Birth of a Nation?
  • It might be helpful for you to review the pageviews on recent DYK hooks to see what our readers find "hooky". Or even try and build a prep set yourself. Yoninah (talk) 18:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah:, I am not holding a defense for ALT0. Just noted my observations. As an aside, I also feel in the quest for interestingness far too many DYK hooks are taking liberties from facts or end up being deliberately 'click baitey'. Case in point -- this one on today's DYK link. Have a look if you have a moment. Ktin (talk) 18:42, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

ALT1 is impossible if not saying that he was mainly cinematographer (vs. script writer and director). If you give me some time I can get the 900 candles over from sources to article. I bet readers would be interested in the burping etc in one of his farces (directed), but I'm not willing to supply that, even with time. Probably not today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 18:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, Yoninah -- if you folks end up going for ALT1 go ahead and use this source. Source text: "Roll was a specialist in literary adaptations and biographies." Der Spiegel Ktin (talk) 18:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Nowhere in Africa won an Oscar (for ALT0?) Grimes2 (talk) 19:02, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that Gernot Roll (pictured) was the cinematographer for the Oscar-winning film Nowhere in Africa and expert in literary adaptations and film biographies? Grimes2 (talk) 20:41, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you for the idea, but that would have to be (and sourced) in the article, and - can't believe it - is not even in the film article, but a source! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
    You se how little I know about the subject, - it's probably Academy Award. Still needs link and mentioning in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 Done Grimes2 (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, the Oscars are the Academy Awards. Grimes2 (talk) 06:42, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Please add information from the Der Spiegel source that Ktin provided above (it's in German). It is more correct to say in the lead that he was an expert in literary adaptations and film biographies than that he was an expert on literary material, whatever that means. Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 Done Grimes2 (talk) 22:39, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll wait - too tired anyway - with trying to say something sensational. Can't help thinking that mentioning Buddenbrooks, a giant novel by Thomas Mann, is more precise than "literary adaptations". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 15[]

Geology of Himachal Pradesh

geological map of Himachal Pradesh
geological map of Himachal Pradesh

Created/expanded by Nykwong (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 04:20, 23 November 2020 (UTC).

Fault zone hydrogeology

Layers of clay deformed by seismic activity can block the flow of fluid underground.
Layers of clay deformed by seismic activity can block the flow of fluid underground.

Moved to mainspace by Shloscar (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:55, 23 November 2020 (UTC).

Geotechnical applications of Lidar

The digital terrain model, in black, ignore vegetation in red.
The digital terrain model, in black, ignore vegetation in red.

Moved to mainspace by Waikinl (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:41, 23 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg While there are two sections about digital terrain models, the hook isn't actually in the article. There are parts at the end of sections that are unreferenced, as well as parts of the two wikitables. The article also shouldn't be an orphan. Otherwise - I can verify some of the information by reading the source abstracts and I assume good faith on the rest of the sourced information. A QPQ has been completed. The image is free use. SL93 (talk) 23:35, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Little Ice Age volcanism

graph of average temperature on the Earth
graph of average temperature on the Earth
  • Reviewed: SY Gunilda
  • Comment: Part of Regional Geology course

Moved to mainspace by Marcolam308 (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC).

  • I oppose the hook. Based on the reference for this very image, there was essentially no global cooling during the so-called Little Ice Age. LIA was a regional phenomenon. See Hawkins, Ed (January 30, 2020). "2019 years". climate-lab-book.ac.uk. Archived from the original on February 2, 2020. RCraig09 (talk) 23:28, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Earth system interactions across mountain belts

Flat slab subduction
Flat slab subduction

Moved to mainspace by Hrhunt (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The hook needs to be formatted. Yoninah (talk) 16:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Hook has been formatted. Full review of nomination needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:46, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 16[]

Stardock Systems Inc. v. Paul Reiche III and Robert Frederick Ford

  • Comment: Might be at the edge of the 7 day requirement, due to article only hitting the new article announcements yesterday at the relevant Wikipeda project.

Moved to mainspace by Jorahm (talk) and DocFreeman24 (talk). Nominated by Shooterwalker (talk) at 23:12, 24 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Thanks for giving time to fix that. To keep it short, I went with the WP:COMMONNAME as seen in high quality legal articles like Sega v. Accolade. (Probably worth moving the main page too, as per conventions, if that's not disruptive.) It's hard to distill this into a tight sentence so focusing just on one submission now. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Erfreue dich, Himmel, erfreue dich, Erde

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 17:23, 23 November 2020 (UTC).

  • if "Psalmlied" is a word it would be good to add it to Wiktionary: [10], as even German words should be in there. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:07, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
    German is flexible. Do we have Weihnachtslied, Sommerlied, Abendlied, Schunkellied, Schlaflied ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, what does "beginning of Christian hymns" mean? CMD (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Do you think that "first line" would be clearer than "beginning"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Possibly. Is it only the first line that is used in hymns? The article seems to be about the 1963 longer piece. CMD (talk) 16:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Did you read it? Because if it's that unclear I need to change something. The shorter piece will never get an article of its own, so this should cover both. Perhaps there should be two infoboxes. Six of the older song's eight lines are also part of the younger one, - is that clear? Can we perhaps have this conversation on the article talk, instead of the DYK nomination? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Aparna Rao

  • Reviewed: first DYK nomination, so not required
  • Comment: Can provide access to paywalled sources via email upon request. This is my first nomination so please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.

Created by Мастер Шторм (talk). Nominated by Sam-2727 (talk) at 15:15, 21 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The original GA review is within the timeline for this nomination to pass. However, the GA review itself was followed by a large number of s made, there is currently a neutrality tag on the article, and the GA review was conducted by a user who's now known to be a sockpuppet. The review is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations § Cirt/Right cite GA reviews which may result in removal of the article's GA status at this time. I don't think the article's primary author/improver, nor the nominator here, are at fault nor acting at bad faith, but I don't feel comfortable continuing this review and even considering passing the article when the triggering event is in question. There are two possible ways this can move forward: the article remains a GA (either by consensus that it can, or by someone else "accepting responsibility" for the current GA review) and I will return to re-evaluate the DYK criteria in full; or the article's GA status is either revoked or put back on hold, in which case I will fail this DYK nomination with no prejudice towards a renomination if/when the article becomes a GA again. For this time, I will leave this nomination here for now, and I'll be watching for a resolution to the GA question - after which I will return to close out this review. Pinging User:Мастер Шторм and User:Sam-2727. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 03:41, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Berchanhimez, Thanks for the comment, I think this is a good way to move forward with the nomination. Sam-2727 (talk) 15:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I also agree with this Berchanhimez. Sam-2727, please note that in the article, I have made this and this change. However, it would be fine with me if you would like to reinstate the replaced source also and keep both of them. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 19:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 18[]

Paper Mario: The Origami King

  • Reviewed: Second DYK, QPQ exempt

Improved to Good Article status by Le Panini (talk). Self-nominated at 02:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg As someone who has never played this game before and knows next to nothing about it, I do not think either of these hooks are particularly strong or "hooky". I do not think it was a good idea to make both hooks about the character Olivia as that does not mean much for people unfamiliar with the game. I would recommend thinking of a different approach. Aoba47 (talk) 01:57, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • First time here. I would like to suggest the fact that the idea of the battle system is based on Rubik's Cube. MilkyDefer (talk) 12:09, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I was gonna suggest a DYK about Shigeru Miyamoto not being involved with the development process. I would word in a way where people new to the game would still be surprised about it. Hers an example.

... that Shigeru Miyamoto, the creator of Mario, was barely involved with the development of Paper Mario: The Origami King? "Paper Mario: The Origami King devs had "almost complete control" over direction". VG247. Retrieved November 6, 2020.

Or it could be about the Rubik's cube, but it up to @Aoba47:. Le Panini Talk 12:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

  • I will leave this up to another or. I just wanted to raise my concern about the initial hooks. Good luck with this. Aoba47 (talk) 17:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Gertrude Degenhardt

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: She just turned 80, and we missed it, - so sorry. Wish we could show her art. The ref is titled "the untameable pleasure in exaggeration".

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:10, 25 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As all refs are foreign-language, unable to check for close paraphrasing.
  • The hook reads like a resume. It's not clear why you're using the German word liedermacher; it doesn't even appear in the article. If you're going to mention Women in Music, why not add an adjective as to what it is? I thought it was an album. Meanwhile, you have a lot of colorful description in the article that could be used to "illustrate" the hook. Please suggest an alt. Also waiting on the QPQ. Yoninah (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you, patience please, RL. - I think liedermacher ("songmaker") is much better than the clumsy "singer-songwriter", - sorry about not having had the time to use it in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Anahit Yulanda Varan. Too tired for more right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
    back: the two facts mentioned - 30 years apart - are two highlights of which one would seem too narrow, and once two not much room for colour. Also, the descriptions would probably need some "regarded as". - It's not exactly my topic, so I may lack words, - so I am nt sue how to describe the series, etchings, drawings, whatever, - help welcome. I thought that once "illustrated" was mentioned, it was clear that she didn't compose, no?
    ALT1: ... that in the 1960s, Gertrude Degenhardt illustrated song albums of her brother-in-law Franz Josef Degenhardt, and in the 1990s, she created series such as Women in Music and Vagabondage in Blue?

Articles created/expanded on November 19[]

Articles created/expanded on November 20[]

Meenakshi Pahuja

Moved to mainspace by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 11:55, 24 November 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The hook is not really interesting. Even her being the first Indian to swim across Lake Constance, Key West or Lake Travis is also not interesting in itself for a hook Roller26 (talk) 08:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

  • I would agree that it's not very interesting to say she is the "first Indian woman to swim X", that's why I thought I would combine three of her achievements all in one sentence. I'm at a loss how to make the hook more interesting. Mujinga (talk) 11:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg, asking for a pair of fresh eyes to check whether the hook is interesting enough for DYK. Roller26 (talk) 07:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 21[]

The Alcestiad

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: This was "the first full-length opera by an American woman staged at a major European opera house" but if we say all that we used all the space a hook can offer.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

GRuban, any image of Talma? There's one of both in the interview under External links, but I'm afraid that's not possible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Lots at the Library of Congress, including most of those from the interview, but they don't say they are public domain, unfortunately, and don't say when/where they were first published. If there were a newspaper with a photo, or a cover photo on one of her works, that might be possible, we could hope it wouldn't be renewed, but we need publication information. --GRuban (talk) 17:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the search. - I DO hope that readers will find the interview, and the bio-book, because they really have much more detail. - I'm behind for Beethoven's works ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

My Memoir

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:59, 21 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment Neither of these hooks look great to me. First, many memoirs are self-serving apologia[15] (just look at Wehrmacht generals for a darker example). Second, many of them are written to defend someone's legacy (essentially the same thing from the other POV). (t · c) buidhe 23:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
  • While it may be common for Nazi generals, it isn't necessarily for First Ladies of the United States, particularly to have their memoirs openly called that. I skimmed Genzlinger's essay and, while interesting, I don't think it's relevant, given that he's bemoaning the "lost art of shutting up", when one becomes "lost in a sea of people you’ve never heard of" "writing uninterestingly about the unexceptional". I wouldn't consider the wife of a President of the United States uninteresting or unexeptional, and Woodrow Wilson is certainly someone that people have heard of last I checked. While it is true that many memoirs defend someone, I think it rare that they defend someone who isn't the author of the autobiography. Of course, I may be completely wrong here, as I am often. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Just an FYI on the subject matter. Edith did what she had to do for her husband and for the country. While it well might be that the doctors advised her to do so, mentioning in the hook, dilutes her somewhat heroic role in keeping the country running.— Maile (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Condescending Wonka

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kresy myth ‎
  • Comment: The image is fair use and we cannot use it (which is quite ironic considering everyone on the Internet and their dog can, but - shrug, we have our own rules... can probably make a meme about this, lol).

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC).

Safari Hotel

Created by SportingFlyer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC).

References

Articles created/expanded on November 22[]

Nacotchtank

Created/expanded by Peterpietri (talk). Self-nominated at 22:17, 22 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Peterpietri: Great work with this article. Unless I am mistaken, it appears that the expansion falls short of the requirement of 5x readable prose. Looks like it was about 5K on 22 November and is 17K today. Let me know if I am missing something. Also pending a QPQ review. Otherwise, article is cited to RS, neutral, well-written and hook is interesting and cited. —Al Ameer (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article was expanded 5x total, but beginning in October. Unfortunately, it has not been expanded enough recently to qualify, and now that it is the 29th, expanding it more now wouldn't help. This seems like a great candidate for WP:GA and I encourage the nominator to continue working on it and submit it there. Once it passes and is promoted to Good Article status, it can be renominated for DYK within seven days. Thanks for the hard work! Footlessmouse (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Actually, Footlessmouse, if someone nominates on time—and the entire expansion began November 22, the date this was nominated, not in October, which were s by someone else and not part of the current expansion—we allow them the opportunity to complete the expansion to 5x if they can do so in a reasonable period after being informed of the shortfall. In this case, the article was 5191 prose characters prior to expansion, which needs it has to expand fivefold to 25955 prose characters. At the moment, it's over halfway there, at 17172, so another 8783 prose characters will be needed. Peterpietri, do you think you'll be able to further expand the article by that much? Please let us know either way. Many thanks, and congratulations on the work you've put into the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:08, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 23[]

Intramuscular injection

Improved to Good Article status by Berchanhimez (talk). Self-nominated at 03:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 24[]

La schiava in Bagdad

Rosalbina Caradori as Zora in 1827
Rosalbina Caradori as Zora in 1827
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Vocenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:59, 1 December 2020 (UTC).

Climate change in Kenya

Created/expanded by Gbadegesin Muhammed (talk) and Sadads (talk). Nominated by EMsmile (talk) at 16:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @EMsmile: This interesting article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts for ALT0 and ALT1 are cited inline, and the article is neutral. Unfortunately the article contains significant amounts of close paraphrasing. I rewrote one sentence that showed up with the Earwig tool, but then found other examples. The paragraph on tea for example includes "Sustainability of the industry is thus crucial to the country’s socio-economic well-being and development", which is lifted straight from the source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:59, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Cwmhiraeth: thank you for pointing that out. I wasn't aware of that - most of the work was done by Gbadegesin Muhammed but also some others during the Wiki4Climate -a-thon. I should have checked with the tool myself. We'll work on that issue. Is there a time frame by which we have to have improved it by? EMsmile (talk) 16:26, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Cwmhiraeth, I noticed the close paraphrasing myself when discussing the nomination of this article with EMsmile. I've done some copying without looking at the sources (apologies for not managing to do it before the review), for grammar and flow, and currently earwig isn't pulling up too much. CMD (talk) 16:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Bah I've found some egregious examples that earwig isn't picking up. This will require a thorough check. CMD (talk) 17:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@EMsmile: Thank you both. There is no particular time frame for sorting it out, but ideally, each paragraph should be compared with its source. That's how I noticed the paragraph about tea. New ors don't always understand about copyright. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Ur-Quan

Improved to Good Article status by Shooterwalker (talk). Self-nominated at 19:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 25[]

Folklore: The Long Pond Studio Sessions

  • Reviewed: In progress

Created by ElliesPoetry (talk), BawinV (talk), Doggy54321 (talk), and Rfl0216 (talk). Nominated by Shuipzv3 (talk) at 13:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Japan National Route 105

National Route 105 in Semboku
National Route 105 in Semboku
  • Reviewed: Thomas Paxton
  • Comment: The quoted text is in an offline link labeled "街道愛称決定について [1585KB]" within the online link I included here. The link can be accessed, the pdf within it just needs to be downloaded in order to view it.

5x expanded by Mccunicano (talk). Self-nominated at 03:45, 26 November 2020 (UTC).

Lynda Schraufnagel

Created by Blameless (talk). Self-nominated at 05:53, 26 November 2020 (UTC).

Current nominations[]

Articles created/expanded on November 26[]

Gonen Ben Itzhak

Created/expanded by Omert33 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:56, 26 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Drive-by comment: There are too many names and nicknames here. Please shorten the hooks. Yoninah (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment: Added ALT2 and ALT3 for consideration. --Omer Toledano (talk) 09:32, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Ready for review. Yoninah (talk) 11:25, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 27[]

Synergus japonicus

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 07:24, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

Arizona Falls

Arizona Falls
Arizona Falls
Arizona Falls
Arizona Falls

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 00:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC).

Anton Colella

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

Marie Chaix

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC).

Attributions for Poverty

Created by Ilana Brody (talk). Nominated by Ibbrody (talk) at 03:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 28[]

Frog Pond Effect

5x expanded by Tnbphd (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC).

Shikma Bressler

Bressler giving a speech at the protests
Bressler giving a speech at the protests

Created/expanded by Omert33 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Thank you Omert33 for this very interesting addition to the encyclopedia! For DYK, it is new enough, long enough, neutrally written, no pings on Earwig, and ALT0 and ALT1 are both very interesting. No QPQ required. I have one concern about adherence to policy, which is that especially for the section on the protests, which may be controversial, it is important that each claim be accompanied by the source that verifies it, rather than leaving to the end of the section. Is it possible to add those in? Innisfree987 (talk) 02:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Added sources to ALT2 and ALT3.I would also recommend using the image. Thank you. --Omer Toledano (talk) 04:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Omert33, ah I apologize, I wasn’t clear enough: I meant in the entry, the statements should each have their relevant source cited at the end of the sentence, at least in the protest section which may be controversial (but it is good practice thoughout). This is to adhere to the DYK rule that entries should be within policy and that is part of WP:BLP policy. Meanwhile I can definitely propose the picture—it will be up to the promoter to decide whether to use it as only one image is chosen per day so there are often more images than openings for them. We’ll try though! Innisfree987 (talk) 05:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Also if you prefer a different caption, that’s fine with me! I just had to pick something to fill out the form but we can change it. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I added citations. By the way... I was under the impression that it is better to cite at the end of a paragraph. Throughout the years, I've actually seen people move citations to the end of the paragraph as a preferable way to do it but "to each his own" I guess. --Omer Toledano (talk) 05:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Innisfree987, Performed copy ing for punctuation, grammar, typos, and redundancies. What do you think? --Omer Toledano (talk) 15:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • I’m sorry, the section on the Black Flag protests, which are the most likely to draw contentious ing if she is featured on Main Page, still look unreferenced to me. It’s interesting to hear you have seen a preference for this style—I definitely know some prefer never to interrupt a sentence but I’ve never heard about the end of a paragraph... I would have guessed it was regional as I usually work on US bios, but recently was involved in the Good Article nomination of Priscilla Jana, a South African activist. If you have a look at that, you can see what I had in mind? Thank you, I just want to make sure the entry is solid before it hits the spotlight! Innisfree987 (talk) 16:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Innisfree987, I added another reference citation in the part about "The Black Flag" protests. For your consideration. --Omer Toledano (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came over from the note at WT:DYK. While piling up the citations at the end of a paragraph is fine for a start-class article at DYK, in this case, if the reviewer feels that these sentences can be seen as controversial and raise WP:ERRORS comments from readers while it's on the main page, then you should please add the inline cites.
  • BTW, this is the second hook you've proposed that mentions the subject's participation in the protests against Netanyahu (the other is Gonen Ben Itzhak). Does every hook have to mention this? I feel like you're pushing an agenda or something. Yoninah (talk) 21:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Yoninah, for explaining why I am asking for inline citations. Omert33, please just let me know when you’ve added them. At this point I would do it myself but unfortunately I don’t read Hebrew. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you very much, it does. All set. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Manner (company)

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 10:56, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

Pomato (company)

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 10:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 29[]

Santal 33

Le Labo Santal 33
Le Labo Santal 33
  • Comment: I had trouble succinctly quoting the source as she develops this argument over the course of the article—clicking through might make it clearer or let me know if I can help clarify.
  • Reviewed: TK

Created by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

Streetcars in Santa Barbara

Created by Babaluma (talk). Nominated by Amkgp (talk) at 12:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Moral blindness

  • Reviewed: I still have to review another nomination and will post this here once it's done.

5x expanded by Rianahen (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment: could you rephrase the hook so that it does not address the reader (eg - "can make one believe..."). Mindmatrix 20:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Edinburgh City Hospital

Moved to mainspace by Iainmacintyre (talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment What about a slight rewording of the main hook as "... that Edinburgh City Hospital was the first to introduce the triple therapy treatment of tuberculosis, which went on to become standard practice worldwide?" With some slight s to Tuberculosis management, you can link to that page for triple therapy as well. Nice work! Footlessmouse (talk) 22:49, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Many thanks @Footlessmouse: I'm always a bit hesitant about using the word "first" in this context. I've looked at your suggestion about rewording Tuberculosis management to provide a link but I think it would entail including details on the Streptomycin/PAS/Isoniazid combination which I don't feel competent to do. @Whispyhistory:, @Doc James: can you help on this one please. Papamac (talk) 12:05, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Sure..will have a look. Crofton demonstrated at Edinburgh, that triple therapy (Streptomycin/PAS/Isoniazid combination) could cure TB. The story is given in The greatest story never told [21], and other places [22] and an interview with Crofton for the WHO [23]. Triple therapy was developed by the Edinburgh team and the research would have involved several Edinburgh hospitals. I'll add the story to a history section in Tuberculosis management and look at how to link as per your suggestions. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:55, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
  • What do you think about simplifying it to "the use of three antibiotics for treating tuberculosis, introduced at..."? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:48, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks @Doc James:. I think "triple therapy" implies that the antibiotics were taken concurrently - the all important innovation to reduce drug resistance. "...the use of three antibiotics " somehow doesn't convey that. Would "...use of three antibiotics taken concurrently..." complicate the hook too much?Papamac (talk) 18:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • how about "three antibiotics at the same time" or a "combination of three antibiotics"? Whispyhistory (talk) 19:11, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • I like "the combination of three antibiotics, introduced at the" Triple therapy dose not emphasize that we are talking about antibiotics Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Namcot Collection

Improved to Good Article status by Namcokid47 (talk). Nominated by Le Panini (talk) at 03:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC).

King Ludwig Oak

King Oak seen from the west
King Oak seen from the west
  • Comment: This is my fifth DYK nomination

Created by Amkgp (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 29 November 2020 (UTC).

Thray Sithu of Myinsaing

Created/expanded by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 04:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

Social heuristics

5x expanded by Mwla20 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on November 30[]

Perspective Getting

  • Comment: Nominating PERSPECTIVE GETTING for DYK.

Created by LM14840 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Elsa-Brita Nordlund

Created by Ewchan25 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Note: Nominator is a WikiEd student or for the Fall 2020 term at the University of Chicago. — Maile (talk) 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment:@Ewchan25: It seems you forgot to provide a source for your hook. See point no 3 at WP:DYKRULESAmkgp 💬 15:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Frances Burgess

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 21:25, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

Segugio Italiano

Short-Haired Segugio Italiano
Short-Haired Segugio Italiano
  • Reviewed: exempt as first ever nomination, wish to understand the process prior to attempting a review.

5x expanded by Cavalryman (talk). Self-nominated at 09:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

Atomic Spy (Greenspan book)

Fuchs in the 1940s
Fuchs in the 1940s
  • Reviewed: Technically still exempt with 3 crs as of now. (I have reviewed several, though)
  • Comment: Can add more as needed, but I liked this one so figured I would give it a try first. I am quick to respond.

Created by Footlessmouse (talk). Self-nominated at 08:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

Congressional seed distribution

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

  • I agree, the hook should be rephrased. It's not clear what "through" means in this context (t · c) buidhe 07:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Buidhe: How about ALT 0b below? I can't think of a great way to briefly explain how it actually worked with Congresspeople, but that's not really the focus of my suggested hook right now anyway. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:37, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ivan Camilleri

Created by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC).

Alatyr (mythology)

Created by Sławobóg (talk) and Evrik (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 15:43, 1 December 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on December 1[]

WhopperCoin

  • Reviewed: Don't have 5 DYKs yet.

Created/expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Currently full of cryptocurrency sites (crypto sites are regarded as from "generally unreliable" down to "pay-for-play spam") and self-sourcing; creator is -warring them back in. Should not be DYK'ed while it's not in a fit state - David Gerard (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
  • @David Gerard: Props for your assistance in copying the article after I linked it to you on your talk page; I'm not very familiar with the state of the art on RS policy for cryptocurrency (the topic changes too quickly for me to stay up-to-date). I think everything is fine now, though.
I did add back some of the stuff you removed -- some of it after finding alternate RS that supported it, and some of the other stuff was already covered by the initial RS for the article, so it could simply be cited to that instead (good eye on the Forbes contributor article / the Newsweek thing, which had slipped my mind entirely). I kept the link to the press release by Waves and the asset page on their site, because it seems to me to fall under WP:ABOUTSELF -- but I'd be fine with taking them back out, since everything sourced to those pages is also covered by other inline references from RS as well (BBC, CNN, CNBC). I've either removed or commented out anything that I've been unable to find a non-contested source for so far. I appreciate your candor -- is there anything in the article right now that lacks RS? (I couldn't find anything in the RSN archives showing consensus for CoinTelegraph, but it wasn't a very important source, so I've simply taken it out) jp×g 18:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Merbok (2017)

Created by Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk). Nominated by Amkgp (talk) at 05:24, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Black Futures

Created by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:24, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

History of the location of the soul

5x expanded by AT00naSammich (talk). Nominated by At00naSammich (talk) at 02:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Please provide a reference for your hook. — Amkgp 💬 05:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg @At00naSammich: Its not a 5x expansion. After expansion Special:Permalink/991833454 counts approx 14951 characters and before expansion Special:Permalink/971393726 counts approx 13354 characters. Courtesy @Ian (Wiki Ed): regarding this. — Amkgp 💬 07:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@At00naSammich: Thank you for providing source to your hook. As per your latest revision per Special:Permalink/991975378, it counts to approx 16817 characters only. That is way behind the 5x expansion. It needs to be 66700+ characters to be eligible per 5x expansion criteria. — Amkgp 💬 09:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Stewart Friesen

Improved to Good Article status by NASCARfan0548 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC).

Oral Swigart

5x expanded by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 15:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC).

Plaza Hotel

Plaza Hotel
Plaza Hotel
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending
  • Comment: I will come up with more hooks later

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 02:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Another amazing article about a NYC building. This review is for ALT3 which I find the most incredible of the hooks:

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg Epicgenius, 5x expansion began November 30. No copyvios detected. AGF as the cited page for the hook is not available online. Good image, just wish the trees were not in the way of the lower part of the building. QPQ yet to be done. All in all a great article and a catchy hook! just waiting on a QPQ. Found5dollar (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Found5dollar: Thanks for the quick review. I'll do a QPQ review shortly. Epicgenius (talk) 20:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


Kaʻiulani

Princess Kaʻiulani, 1897
Princess Kaʻiulani, 1897
@Maile66: What do you think? KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@KAVEBEAR: I agree that it's a little challenging to come up with a hook about her. — Maile (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT3:... that when princess Kaʻiulani (pictured) was five years old, her uncle King Kalākaua tried to arrange a marriage for her with a 13-year-old Japanese prince, but was turned down on behalf of the nation of Japan?
  • ALT4:... that when princess Kaʻiulani (pictured) died, her pet peacocks could be heard screaming in the night?
I think this one would be nice to include even if it is a "may have". KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT4a:... local lore has it that when princess Kaʻiulani (pictured) died, her pet peacocks could be heard screaming in the night? — Maile (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Nancy Webb wrote it as "... people were startled from their sleep by a sudden wild screaming in the night. Kaiulani's peacocks were crying out their loss as if they consciously comprehended it." 1
Ellen Emerson White wrote about the shrieking as "it is also said ... " 2 — Maile (talk) 17:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT5:... that Hawaiian princess Kaʻiulani (pictured) was an avid surfer and may been the first female to surf in the British Isles in 1892?
I like the surfing angle. But maybe write it with the known facts (rather than "may have been"). Do we know that she took her surf board with her to the British Isles? I think I remember that somewhere. — Maile (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Her surfing in England is a popular legend but only surf board is the one that her father donated to the museum after his death which was used only in Hawaii. KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Improved to Good Article status by KAVEBEAR (talk) and Maile66 (talk). Nominated by KAVEBEAR (talk) at 00:30, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment: "studied abroad in England" is awkward; use the more concise "studied in England" instead. Mindmatrix 00:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Sure. It does make her sound like a 21st-century college student. KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 2[]

Chori Chori Chupke Chupke

Improved to Good Article status by Shshshsh (talk). Self-nominated at 22:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Filipino Baby

  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

Laura Purser-Rose

  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment: the first hook should use the singular woman. Mindmatrix 20:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Alexander Lindsay (East India Company officer)

  • Reviewed: to follow

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 18:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC).

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg This looks good, so as soon as you do a QPQ I will give it the checkmark majestic. jp×g 00:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 3[]

They Live on The Land

Created by FOARP (talk). Nominated by Amkgp (talk) at 15:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This looks good as far as article length, newness, policy, QPQ etc. However, the article and the hook both use "household" (singular), when I believe "households" would be correct here. Even then though, the source uses the word "families." I would recommend that this be used in both the article and hook. It may also be a good idea to have have the citation in the article point to pg. 142 specifically, but I don't think that's super necessary here as it's only two pages at present and it's not a particularly contentious claim. AviationFreak💬 18:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
"Household" was a typo on my part, now fixed in the article and the hook per AviationFreak's kind suggestion, which I trust Amkgp is OK with (thanks for the nom btw!). I need to look at the ref to see what part of the review I was relying on for which part of the article and separate them between the first and last page of the review to see about making the ref page-specific. FOARP (talk) 19:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
@AviationFreak: Suggestions implemented. — Amkgp 💬 19:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good, thanks! AviationFreak💬 19:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Osborne Apartments

Osborne Apartments
Osborne Apartments

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

Dachau camp trial

Created by Blablubbs (talk). Self-nominated at 12:42, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

Eastern Shore Pipeline

Created by AviationFreak (talk). Self-nominated at 18:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC).

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