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Articles created/expanded on December 31[]

Cartography of Palestine (region)

Map by Pietro Vesconte, 1321.
Map by Pietro Vesconte, 1321.

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 2 January 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Most of the comments especially some lengthy ones in each boxes have no sources. You need to add sources for each comment even something as simple as "Copy from 1298" either inline or as a separate notes column. See 1892 Legislative Session of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Also your bibliography from Moscrop 2000 down to Fischer 1940 are not used and are exhibiting the "Harv warning". The bibliography needs to be better organized in alphabetical order by authors. Also the caption of the first paragraph contains a lot of uncited information as well. KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:28, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

This fact, cited or not, seems rather unlikely. I mean, what about Strabo's Geographica? It maps a whole series of countries. And the Ancient Egyptians did sophisticated cadastral surveys, and we have a geological map they made in ~1150 BC; I can't imagine that no map of Egypt was ever made. I mean, there was a well-established tourist industry in Herodotus's day, and tourists who had come to see Egypt would presumably have liked to see where they had been. I haven't even started on the quite sophisticated maps often produced by non-literate cultures, which are also underrepresented by history of cartography. Even if, by defining terms really carefully, and ignoring all maps not still preserved, and being a bit Eurocentric, you were able to somehow argue this one, it's an uninformative sort of fact that needs such hard-to-imagine qualifications. The linked article also dramatically contradicts the hook, and its lede contradicts most of its content. HLHJ (talk) 04:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@HLHJ: thanks for this. I could resolve your first set of points by adding the word “known” or “surviving”, but I am quite taken by your second set of points. How about this version which may generate more clicks:
It’s worded ambiguously to keep it impactful, but the point is to refer to Ptolemy’s map. It could also be plural (maps) and refer more broadly to the first ten or so maps, given that, despite a few of the maps not using the word Palestine, all the earliest maps were created during the time of Syria Palestina, Palestina Prima and Jund Filastin (see also Timeline of the name "Palestine"). Onceinawhile (talk) 03:52, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Onceinawhile. Referring to the Ptolemaian map, or the first few maps, makes sense. I'm OK with hooks that have double meanings, and the hook would certainly hook attention. In the singular "map", ALT1 is not quite cited (something that explicitly said that X was the earliest known map, or the earliest known one of which we have copies), and in the plural, it isn't cited (and the Jerome map does not seem to say "Palestine").
On citability, I think Strabo did map that area earlier, and it seems unlikely that the Romans left no record of any map of the Roman province of Judea. You might make a "first" hook work here, but it's going to be difficult; and"some of the earliest known" or "some early" has less kick. If, once you've got all the information in this article cited, you aren't sure you can support this hook adequately, then I'll be happy read through it and discuss alternate hooks again.
Separately, I think that in order to use ALT1, the article would need a brief discussion of the history of various names for this region (possibly linked to the Timeline of the name "Palestine" you linked, and Timeline of the name "Judea", and perhaps Names of the Levant -- can't see one for "Isreal"), so that people would go away informed, and not determined to complain to someone (incidentally, should the article title use "Levant", given that the scope seems to be the geographic area, not the nomenclature? Do we have a policy on this?).
I don't think it would make sense to use the 1321 map in an accompanying illustration if the hook does not mention it (the mapmaker of the 1321 map also titles it "Terra Sancta", the Holy Land, and in his Latin caption, refers to both "Cesarea Palestine" and the sons of Isreal; he was working in Venice, so this isn't surprising). Of course, this illustration isn't necessary for your proposed ALT1 hook; you could change the picture, or figure the hook is hooky enough already and leave it out. HLHJ (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: thanks for this. I’ll respond on your other points in due course, but on citability of Ptolemy I have: Nebenzahl, Kenneth (1986). Maps of the Holy Land: Images of Terra Sancta Through Two Millennia. Abbeville Press. p. 14. ISBN 978-0-89659-658-0. Cartography as we know it today begins with this spectacular map of the world at the time of Claudius Ptolemy. It sets the stage for the history of mapping the Holy Land... his work was to become the model for scientific cartography during the great revivals of mapmaking: the tenth-century Golden Age of Islam and the European Renaissance. The rediscovery of Ptolemy in the fifteenth century was particularly important for maps of the Holy Land; it ended the almost complete domination of mapmaking by Church dogma throughout the Middle Ages... Around AD 150 he produced his Geographia, the earliest known atlas of the world.
Your challenge re Strabo could be expanded to include many of the names in the list of Graeco-Roman geographers pre-Ptolemy, many if whom described the Palestine region in their writings. I would like to add a sentence on this in the article if I can find a source confirming that none of them made maps (or at least no maps that are known to us).
Onceinawhile (talk) 08:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Not in the least denying that Ptolemy was important. Eratosthenes might be a better counterexample than Strabo, he is known to have made maps (including all the world he knew) rather than just inspiring them, and he lived practically next door. Face-smile.svg HLHJ (talk) 04:21, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: Ptolemy’s primary source, Marinus of Tyre, lived even closer than Erastothenes. And unfortunately none of Erastothenes’ maps survived, nor did any of the maps of the great Ancient Greek cartographers. See: Wilson, Nigel Guy (2006). "Cartography". Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece. Psychology Press. p. 145. ISBN 978-0-415-97334-2. As geographical knowledge improved, various writers recorded what they believed to be the spatial relationships of territories and peoples to each other, and it is from this information that many modern historical atlases present items such as the world according to Hecataeus or Herodotus or Eratosthenes: actual ancient versions of these maps do not survive (indeed, modern versions seem to originate in the 1883 volumes of Bunbury), although there do exist Byzantine versions of Ptolemy’s maps. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: are you ok with me proceeding on this basis? Onceinawhile (talk) 10:35, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm not really OK with "earliest" or "earliest known". "Earliest surviving" might work if you can source it. "Cartography as we know it today begins with this spectacular map of the world at the time of Claudius Ptolemy. It sets the stage for the history of mapping the Holy Land" is not quite that; the phrasing is peacocky rather than factual, and does not make a falsifiable assertion. The article is still short on sourcing, and needs more context (I sometimes find the originals-and-copies history a bit hard to follow). On scope; the Palestine (region) wl article says "The boundaries of the region have changed throughout history", which is a bit lacking as operational definitions go. The scope does not seem to be limited to maps saying "Palestine" or a translation. The article seems to mention whenever a map says "Palestine" or a translation, but it is not mention when other terms are used; I'm not sure what this says about the scope. Clarification on terms would also be good: Palestine? Levant? Israel? Holy Land? What do these terms mean? Do they differ? Why was "Palestine" chosen for the article title? Obviously a full discussion would be out of place,Face-smile.svg but the article should chose an appropriate scope and define it. Some text on the cultural background of some of the mapping would also be good, and on the practical developments (why weren't the Napoleonic cartographers able to survey some areas, for instance? How did the Crusaders use maps? The Ottomans? How were maps used in religious scholarship?). Currently the article is a single-sentence defining the article topic, a list of maps (with some interesting details for some of them), and a short list of lists of maps.
Marinus is impressive, thanks for the link! HLHJ (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: I have a few clarifications on the above while I work through it. I have added an explanation of the scope in the last two sentences in the lede, following the scope used at Cartography of Jerusalem, and have also added a column pointing out the regional names used in the maps. The article name is simply following the usage in the vast majority of maps (and written sources) during the period when these maps were made (c.150AD until c.1880AD). Does that answer your questions?
I agree with many of your other points, and intend to add them over time (I would like to get this to WP:FL). In respect of the WP:DYK nomination, please could you let me know which remaining changes you consider crucial for it to be eligible? Onceinawhile (talk) 00:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the slow response, Onceinawhile, I didn't see that you'd posted here after posting below. I really did not intend to drift into reviewing this, but... KAVEBEAR mentioned sourcing; there is still unsourced content in the tables.
Neutrality is a very difficult one in an area where the name of the area is so politically contentious; here we also have to deal with historical usages ("the Levant" seems about the only modern politically-neutral name for this area, and it can historically encompass a much broader area). Logomachy is easy to laugh at, but that's human conflict. The scope is currently defined as "The cartography of the region of Palestine, also known as cartography of the Holy Land and cartography of the Land of Israel, is the creation, ing, processing and printing of maps of the region of Palestine from ancient times until the rise of modern surveying techniques" The repetition of "Palestine", sounds a bit odd, and could just as well link to, say, Holy Land (which article states "Traditionally, it [the term "Holy Land"] is synonymous both with the biblical Land of Israel and with the region of Palestine"), or Land of Israel, or Canaan, or Levant, or...
While most of the maps use variants on the term "Palestine", if anything, as a "Region name given" column interestingly but perhaps slightly pointedly points out, this is the only reason for preferring one term to another, and I'm honestly not sure if it's sufficient or not. Are there any Wikipedia precedents on this issue? I'd suggest something like "the region known variously as..." followed by a link in which all are wikilinked. There may be a more elegant neutral solution here; I have no experience dealing with this conflict point and welcome suggestions. "Modern" is defined by implication, as the latest map is 1880. After 1400 only notable maps are shown; some are wikilinked, but none are redlinked, for some reason). It also says "The article lists maps that progressed the cartography of region before the rise of modern surveying techniques, showing how mapmaking and surveying improved and helped outsiders to better understand the geography of the area. Imaginary maps and copies of existing maps are excluded.", which seems reasonable.
It seems that the article is in some ways more of a "List of pre-20th-century maps of the Levant" than "Cartography of Palestine", which I would expect to concentrate on the history of motivations and methods of mapping, surveying expions, and so on. The main part of the article is a quite interesting illustrated list, and I'd tend to think of it as a list article. The text is now long enough, if a bit wordy Face-smile.svg. I'm not sure that qualified-first is a promising direction for a hook; could you make some more hook suggestions? "For several centuries during the Middle Ages it [the Holy Land, according to the source] was the most prominent subject in all of cartography" needs globalizing, but material from that quote might be a good topic. HLHJ (talk) 04:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ:, thanks very much for taking the time to look at this again. I will try to address your comments one-by-one:
  • Sourcing in tables - I will go through and add one source per row
  • A neutral name - this question has been discussed ever since Wikipedia came into being, albeit the last few years have seen stability. With respect to other terms, it states at Palestine (region): “The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the Land of Israel, the Holy Land or Promised Land, and represents the southern portion of wider regional designations such as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, and the Levant”. The Israeli government has historically worked to discr the term Palestine, and where the term “Israel” is impossible to apply they encourage the replacement of Palestine with “Holy Land” (the source you referred to above is a description of a collection which had been donated to the National Library of Israel). For most of the history of scholarly works on the subject of this article, Palestine was the only word used in the context of documenting the pre-modern maps of the region (see Tobler, Röhricht and Fischer, mentioned in the last paragraph of the lead). In terms of consistency within Wikipedia, it is not perfect, as we still have some duplication (see e.g. History of Palestine and History of Israel which cover the same topic), but we have broad consensus with articles which are related only to pre-1948 (when Israel came into being) such as Demographic history of Palestine (region) and Travelogues of Palestine. We don’t use other terms, except for pre-history articles, as they are equally “non-neutral”. So if we want to follow precedent within Wikipedia, we have a binary choice between Israel and Palestine in the title.
  • List - yes it is intended to be a list article (as is Cartography of Jerusalem), and over time it is intended that the Comments column fully incorporates the “history of motivations and methods of mapping” (again as does the Jerusalem article). The Cartography topics in wikipedia are not particularly consistent so far, but I am trying to inspire improvement.
  • Hook - I agree perhaps easier to go for a slightly less challenging hook. How about something like “the first list of maps of Palestine was published more than 150 years ago”?
Onceinawhile (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
If that's the consensus choice, then "Palestine" seems reasonable. I now see Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists doesn't actually say you need "List" in the heading, and we don't have a prose article on the cartography of the region, and could split it off if we develop one. I've re-categorized the article class on the talk page as "list" accordingly. It does seem a bit silly to require a cite for the existence, author, and date of creation of a map we have an entire article about; this is all readily verifiable without an in-article citation. Unless someone objects, I think rows like "Van de Velde map" could be excused a lack of citations. Many rows also have decent cites through the image pages, but unfortunately I don't think we can expect that all readers will know that. Statements like "the first printed atlas in the Ottoman Empire" are the ones that really need cites. Your hook idea sounds good, Onceinawhile. HLHJ (talk) 02:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks both. I will try to fix this soon. The "sister article" Cartography of Jerusalem is on the front page today. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:27, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I have now expanded the article to well over the required prose limit. Thank you for the prompt. I have also incorporated the sources which @HLHJ: and I discussed above, such that the proposed hook is now cited. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I will now work on the rest of the points raised by HLHJ. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:33, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 5[]

2020 Venezuelan National Assembly Delegated Committee election

Created by Kingsif (talk) and Jamez42 (talk). Nominated by Kingsif (talk) at 18:40, 5 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment Although I'm sympathetic of nominating the article to a DYK, but I have to contest the statement. This is not the first time that security forces claim that there are explosive devices near the National Assembly (14 May 2019, 16 May 2019), and this usually has happened on days that are politically sensitive or important. More often than not is the National Guard blocking the access or exit to lawmakers and/or journalists, making parliamentary sessions harder or impossible to start, which is exactly what happened yesterday. At best, this is according to government forces.
There are plenty of interesting things that happened on the election day, so I'm sure that there are many alternate hooks that can be included. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jamez42: Do you have any suggestions, but yes, we could use Guaidó climbing over a fence or something. Always interesting to see that. Kingsif (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Kingsif: Maybe the fact that the vote could not take place at the Legislative Palace, I think this is the first time that it ever happens, at least since the Congress has been unicameral. --Jamez42 (talk) 18:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Venezuelan National Assembly president Juan Guaidó was blocked from entering the Assembly and tried to climb over a fence in order to vote in the 2020 committee elections?
ALT2: ... that the 2020 Venezuelan National Assembly Delegated Committee election could not take place at the Palacio Federal Legislativo, and another vote was held at a newspaper's headquarters?
Added some alts, any opinions? Kingsif (talk) 18:40, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Kingsif: Attaboy, they look good. Green tickY Support --Jamez42 (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi, I came by to promote ALT1, but there is close paraphrasing in the article:
  • Source: Parra told reporters 140 lawmakers were present in the session and that his candidacy was approved with 81 votes.
  • Article: Parra told reporters 140 lawmakers were present in the session and that his candidacy was approved with 81 votes.
  • Source: Pedro Carreno, told AFP that the vote took place with 150 deputies present and that Parra received the simple majority of 84 needed to win.
  • Article: Pedro Carreño told AFP that the vote took place with 150 deputies present and that Parra received the simple majority of 84 needed to win.
  • Yoninah (talk) 00:31, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hold on, this article has not even been reviewed. Jamez42, your use of the checkmark icon made the bot think that the review was complete. I'm sending this back to WP:DYKN for a full review, pending the elimination of the close paraphrasing. Yoninah (talk) 00:33, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing resolved. Kingsif (talk) 04:08, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg By the way, I noticed there was never a proper DYK review (all comments were by the nominators), and this is the first time this is being formally reviewed. epicgenius (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Thanks Nikki, I've ed that example, and earwig copyvio seems to be running, so I'll scrutinize all of those pages. Kingsif (talk) 15:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Kingsif, have you made any progress with the additional close paraphrasing checks? I don't see any recent s to phrasing after yours on March 21. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I haven't, I'm afraid - earwig's copyvio tool went down again quickly. Kingsif (talk) 17:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Kingsif, you can try the WMFLabs Dup detector linked to in the box at the top of the page when the or is open. It allows an article against single source comparison. Given how slow Earwig is these days even to come up, it might even be quicker for those places where a single citation covers a large section. (The dup detector lets you tell it to ignore quoted passages, which is a nice feature.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 6[]

2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack

Created by DBigXray (talk). Self-nominated at 18:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC).

  • @DBigXray: This is not a review but that hook is not acceptable as it is not neutral. We can't use an opposition party statement blaming an incident on a government especially with such inflammatory language as the above. Please consider offering another which has a more neutral point of view. Cowlibob (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I have added 3 Alts. DBigXray 14:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The nominator was indefinitely blocked earlier this month and then retired with a renamed username (hence the user and user talk are now redlinks), and when I queried at WT:DYK as to whether this should be continued or closed, the response was that the article needed significant work still, so I'm marking this for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:35, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, the user wasn't blocked indefinitely. This review process can still continue and the article sorted out as needed. DTM (talk) 08:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg new review requested. : I will try making whatever changes are needed. DTM (talk) 08:26, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
This is not a full review, but I do have a couple questions. The current introduction mentions the BJP, which is not defined and people not from India would be unfamiliar with it as a political party. The introduction also makes no mention of any possible motives or causes for the attack. Some general comments on the hooks: While Deepika Padukone a known actress in India, she may not be a household name in the rest of the world, the ALT1 and ALT2 hooks offer little insight as to why she might have been involved. ALT3 seems counter-intuitive. Flibirigit (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
1. I have linked and expanded BJP in the lead for clarity.
2. Possible motives or causes for the attack in the introduction.  Working
Added a line to the lead. Done DTM (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
3. Hooks.  Working
DTM (talk) 08:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the progress so far. Flibirigit (talk) 02:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Regarding the hooks, I do intend to propose one or two more, but for now, I have cut ALT1 and ALT2. You have written "ALT3 seems counter-intuitive". Does that mean ALT3 wouldn't do as a hook? DTM (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • My opinion on ALT3 is that it needs more context. It is confusing to me without more information. Some other suggestions for the article, are to have the citations appear in numerical order when there is more than one in a row. The article seems to be inconsistent in applying MOS:LQ. These are not DYK failures, but friendly suggestions. Flibirigit (talk) 04:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 11[]

It's Decorative Gourd Season, Motherfuckers

Created by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 06:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC).

  • I'll be delighted to review this for you @Guerillero: and I love the alt hook. Before I do the formal review, can I ask would you be happy for the alt hook to run on April Fools Day? I ask as I think it is very rich ground for it and you're more likely to get it run (I've had experience trying to get these sort of hooks done on other days before and it is a huge uphill struggle). Please let me know your preference. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:36, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
    @The C of E: Yes! I would be happy to hold this for April Fools. Best of all, it will be decorative gourd season in Australia and New Zealand --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 17:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length and hook all OK. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Good to go for April Fools Day though @Guerillero: please make sure everything is in order because this will get an extra level of scrutiny because it contains a swear word. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • It feels like an april fools hook -- why? Because it has the word "fuck"? We already have one of those in the set. Yoninah (talk) 17:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I think this alt would work in the present season, but I'd like to note that the source calls it "an ode to autumn", not "shorthand for autumn". If you can't find another source, this will have to be changed in the article:
  • ALT2: ... that "It's Decorative Gourd Season, Motherfuckers" is shorthand for autumn? Yoninah (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: I would like to run ALT1. Both EEng and The C of E seemed to think it is a fine hook and I think it is the most fun. Your alt sucks the life out of it. If you refuse to run it on AFD, then shelve it for September. But we are in the height of decorative gourd season in the southern hemisphere right now. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 13:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm requesting input from other ors at WT:DYK as to whether ALT1 is even appropriate as a hook. Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
It has to be noted that special-occasion hooks have a relatively strict time limit of no more than six weeks from nomination, and that requirement is only rarely waived if there's good reason for it. Right now I don't see any reason why we should delay the hook for that long, and considering the nominator already said that the hook sounds good for Southern Hemisphere readers, then I don't see any problem with it running as a regular hook right now. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Guerillero, the ALT1 hook is the sort of thing you might be able to get away with for April Fools' Day, but not the rest of the year given its wording. The original (ALT0) hook could potentially run any time, as could ALT2 or some other hook. Or ALT0 could be modified to note that he was paid for the mug that was subsequently made, or that he thinks the notoriety has worked better for him than any payment might have. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14[]

Callaghan MacCarty, 3rd Earl of Clancarty

  • Reviewed: As I have less than 5 DYK's, I am opting not to review.

Converted from a redirect by Johannes Schade (talk). Nominated by CaptainEek (talk) at 00:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Review in progress. ミラP 17:58, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Although this was converted into a redirect the day before nom, has 3673 b of prose, and there are hooks interesting, the hooks barely fail WP:POSA and, most importantly, article has sourcing gaps and I'm not sure if the timeline is encyclopedic. Can somebody help CaptainEek and Johannes Schade fix them? ミラP 18:04, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
  • ??? You mean from a redirect, surely. What WP:POSA issues do you see? The (hidden) timeline looks fine to me, & isn't really a DYK issue. Sourcing seems ok for DYK. Johnbod (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Sorry, forgot to respond. Original hook looks fine. But everything in timeline needs sources or you can remove the timeline altogether. ミラP 14:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not doing anything - just drive-by comments. But these don't sound like DYK issues to me. After 6 weeks I think a new reviewer might be a good idea. Johnbod (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Fine. I'll leave this to another reviewer. ミラP 15:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, Right you are, especially not in the 1600s, let alone converting back again at the end of their life. Very unusual. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 00:57, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
The article looks a lot better now, although I think it could still use one more copy since some paragraphs and sentences are a bit hard to read. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:38, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
  • You can always submit the article for a copy to the Guild of Copy Editors, which is currently holding a copying drive through the end of the month, so it could receive an independent copy by then. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1[]

Susan Sweney

Susan Sweney
Susan Sweney

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, well-cited (though some require a subscription). QPQ provided as well, no copyvio issues. I say ALT2 is the most interesting hook, but I'd word it as "... that World War II fascist Susan Sweney was jailed by both the Germans and the British?" ALT3 is sufficient as well. Only holding back approval due to your comment; is your "tidying" done? Let me know what you think through a ping. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I still have some to add and I hope to source a better version of the picture in a few days. I have added "both". Incidentally, she was shipwrecked by them both too which must make her unique as being shipwrecked and jailed by both sides. I haven't yet thought of a good way of putting that in a hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Philafrenzy, it's been over a month since this was nominated, which is lots of time for tidying. Any idea how soon this will be ready? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: It appears that Philafrenzy made several s to the article over the course of a few days, ending on February 29th. Did those s address the concerns? Also pinging the reviewer Nice4What. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:14, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I will check over it today and say whether I think it is done. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Ready for new review. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 13:06, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
I have just re-read it. I think it is ready. BTW I think the image is an integral part of the nom as she looks so innocent which contrasts nicely with the hooks. The haircut is the key feature. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 2[]

Morgenstern der finstern Nacht

  • Reviewed: Lou Lefaive
  • Comment: literally even "laughed"

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC).

Thank you for pointing that out. I don't like the phrase German-language, sorry. Could we say "in German"? We would not have the same question in Spanish. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Gerda Arendt: Hi, I came by to promote this, but I have a question about the translation. Isn't lacht "laughed"? The source also talks about the star "shining" at the night. Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
  • The translation of "lachen" is "laugh", but it's "anlachen", - the way even a baby can communicate in a friendly way before speaking, - help welcome. The translation of "sprechen" is "speak", but the translation of "ansprechen" is "address" or "contact". My translation program is of little help. Anybody? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: @Gerda Arendt:, are there any objections if I propose other hooks that might be easier to verify? Flibirigit (talk) 06:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No. When I wrote the article, things looked bright, topic of 2020 "vision". Now, I'm working on the article of a man who took his life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Here are some other suggestions below: Flibirigit (talk) 01:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for trying. I still think the "laughing-at" image is more unusual but give it a chance: ALT1 and ALT2 would make a good combination, but one alone is unclear, - how would a star make joyful? ... how would the morning star as a symbol for Jesus be specific of this hymn? - I'd hesitate to use a phrase such "world joyful" these days. ALT3 is fine but I guess it should be "likened" or "compared" instead of "like" which makes it sound like a factual statement. Also "splendour" in a European article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I am sorry to hear that ALT1 and ALT2 are not liked. As for ALT0, I would not translate "weil dein Glanz sie angelacht" into smiled. The closest translation I would get is giggled instead of laughed or smile. Sorry, I feel the concerns about ALT0 are valid. I am fine with rewording ALT3 with likened or compared to. Here are some suggestions if Yoninah approves: Flibirigit (talk) 04:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, fine. - I don't remember if you were here when we had a hook ... that "Jesus Christ Is Risen Today?", causing a heated Easter, and an admin almost desysopped for having passed that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Can you please somehow put it in the article, sourced, - just saying 3rd stanza of something in German will probably not do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:36, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
I prefer ALT3a. I added an English translation to the article.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 03:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
My suggestion would have been to add an English translation. Thank you to User:Epiphyllumlover for doing so. Gerda, do you have any other concerns before we get a third party to review? Flibirigit (talk) 04:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 3[]

Alfredo Hueck

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I could probably assume good faith for the Spanish-language sources, but generally the article reads like promotional material riddled with peacocky language instead of an encyclopedic entry. The sources I can read seem problematic too, e.g. this entry is not significant coverage of Hueck by any means -- he is merely listed as or, so it would be as good as simply linking to the movie's IMDb page... Other links like the indiegogo and vimeo ones similarly do not establish notability. I would recommend that we do away with such links Cheers Kingoflettuce (talk) 11:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Really? I wrote it as a career overview, one that I thought was a bit weak but good for DYK. Not all sources need to have sigcov nor establish notability, you've just cherrypicked. There's no reason why his main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable. Those sources you want to get rid of are sourcing things, would you rather it have ref tags? Hollywood Reporter is more RS than IMDb, you know.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Someone following DYK criteria to review, please. Kingsif (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Afraid you are very much misunderstanding/mischaracterising whatever I have said, Kingsif. I never once said that the "main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable"; in fact, I was willing to assume good faith! Your Hollywood Reporter "citation" is pointless and doesn't establish an iota of notability. Anybody who understands notability guidelines will agree... As for the stuff I can read and fully understand, I maintain that there is still far too much fluff for this to run. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 4[]

Dick Johnson Is Dead

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 14:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

  • The article also needs a copy, starting with the first line. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • OK, I have copyed the article for you, and also added more information from the sources. I think you can do more with the hook, like:
  • ALT1: ... that in Dick Johnson Is Dead, director Kirsten Johnson has her elderly father act out all the different ways—many of them violent—that he could die? Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, forgive my interruption, but the submitted QPQ is not a complete review, and this nomination should not be approved until all of the DYK criteria have been addressed in that review, not just the hook. (The article there has a number of bare URLs, so that's something that will need to be fixed.) BlueMoonset (talk) 22:28, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: thank you for the notice. I'm actually trying to work out the hook with the nominator, and since I worked on both the article and hook, will then give it over to someone else to review. Yoninah (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. QPQ has been done. Nomination is ready for a full review with ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 12[]

Early Swallows

Source: Ukraine's teen bullying drama that shattered taboos and stirred a nation, BBC News (12 February 2020)

Created by Yulia Romero (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg ALT0 and ALT2 are really good hooks. However, right now the article is just over 1300 characters long, which is below the 1500 character requirement for DYK. The nomination cannot move forward until the article is expanded further. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I just extended the article with (among others) a source found on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Hope it is long enough now, otherwise I am afraid it has to be extended with fluffy information.... Glad to hear that others find the TV show an interesting subject. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 01:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I have expanded the article even more since 13 February 2020 Face-smile.svgYulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the late reply, but the article looks a lot better now. However, I'd still suggest that it be given a copy to make it read better. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks and apologies from me also..... for the late reply. As you may have noticed..... I have not got the time currently for Wikipedia related matters Twemoji 1f623.svg and ing (and I expect that my "real world" situation will keep it that way.....)..... So I am hoping that somebody else will be so kind to copy Early Swallows..... or that the article will have its DYK in its current form (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.).... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have just requested a copy for the article from the Guild of Copy Editors. They've developed a bit of a backlog, so it may take a few weeks for them to get to it and complete it. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, Face-smile.svg Thank you. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC))

Articles created/expanded on February 13[]

Hiyori Nitta

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Per MOS:EGG I think "voice actress" should just link to voice actress. And, at the risk of opening a can of worms, perhaps consider replacing "actress" with "actor" per MOS:GNL. WanderingWanda (talk) 00:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Alternatively, we can just not have any of the links, other than the bolded link and the series link. This might not be ideal though. epicgenius (talk) 17:53, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment: @Narutolovehinata5: why do most of your Japanese voice actress hooks focus on why they aspired to be a voice actress? These types of hooks belong in a fan magazine. Why don't you work something around what they actually did? Yoninah (talk) 14:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: To be honest, I really dislike this kind of hook myself and would rather focus on a different hook fact if I could. The main reason I tend to propose these kind of hooks is because many of these articles are translations of the equivalent Japanese Wikipedia article, which are mostly lacking in life details apart from these "why I want to be a voice actor" information. Sometimes these Japanese articles have other information, but they seem to be even more fanzine-y and more like trivia, which is why I rarely include them when creating articles. I really wish I could propose hooks that don't follow this format and I'm not generally a fan of them myself, but it's usually easier said than done. With that said, I'll try to look up information on her either on the Japanese page or elsewhere and see if I could find anything else of note. I have to note that in some cases, the information on the Japanese articles are sourced to offline sources that I don't have, so there's not much I can do when that happens. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for whatever you can do. I often look for unusual wording or connections between facts, like the names of her characters or animes, to develop a hook. But there isn't much here. I also see she didn't fulfill her goal of appearing in Pretty Cure at all. Yoninah (talk) 17:40, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I'll see if I can find anything interesting, but if I can't find anything I'll just withdraw this. Not all articles are meant for DYK and even when I first nominated this I was already thinking that the hooks I proposed were starting to stretch things. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately, as the subject is still a relative newcomer, there really isn't much else information about her that I could still find. Having taken another look at her Japanese Wikipedia page, there isn't anything there that I could borrow to be used as a hook as the remaining information there is trivia that's irrelevant towards non-fans of Japanese voice acting. I'd still like to hear a second opinion on whether or not the hooks I proposed above are suitable or interesting to a broad audience, and if the response is negative, I'll just withdraw this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 14[]

Salgo v. Leland Stanford Jr. University Board of Trustees

  • Comment: I'm launching this for the student and instructor to help ease them through the process, this should count as one of their grace nominations.

Created by Aliylo (talk). Nominated by Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) at 20:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article was new enough to mainspace when nominated and is easily long enough (~9,000 characters) and otherwise eligible. The article's claims are supported by suitable citations; I'll assume good faith with regard to the paywalled sources, which are substantially supported by the ones I can access. An additional citation is needed. The content is presented in an appropriately neutral fashion, without e.g. taking one litigant's side. I don't see any signs of plagiarism from online sources; the high-scoring hits on the Earwig tool are all matches on the names of cases and institutions and other stock phrases not easily paraphrased. The hooks are both supported by citations, and ALT1 is the more interesting.

A good guideline is to try to include some sort of citation for each paragraph of text, so the article needs to make clear the source for the second paragraph of "History". Wikipedia style frowns on including external links in the prose body of an article (except in citations), so you can just cut the sentence in "Hospital Visit/ Procedure" that reads "More details of the procedure can be found here."

This is close to meeting the standard! A little work and it should be able to run at DYK. Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Ski-BASE jumping

Moved to mainspace by Snakey123 (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 09:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Repeated uses of the same reference should be combined; see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Repeated citations. GRuban (talk) 16:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

GRuban, it's not me you should be contacting, it's @Snakey123:. I just nominated it for him as he asked me to. Personally I think the original hook is fine as the Bond element will bring people in. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I contacted you both just in case, and suggested an alternative Bond hook, that will hopefully bring in even more people. Face-smile.svg. --GRuban (talk) 16:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 15[]

Newyorkitis

Created by Coretheapple (talk). Self-nominated at 19:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg — Article was created during the last seven days and contains a sufficient prose length. It is well-sourced throughout with proper citations, neutral, and has no apparent copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, short enough, neutral/accurate, and backed by a source. QPQ has been done. This one is good to go. Aria1561 (talk) 02:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg We need an expert like EEng to make something better out of this hook. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
    ALT1 ... that John H. Girdner identified nearsightedness (caused by omnipresent buildings) as a symptom of Newyorkitis, and a colleague wrote that female mental activity caused nervousness in urban dwellers?
    EEng 00:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Works for me---maybe adding the date for clarity. "that in 1901, John H..." etc . Thanks. Coretheapple (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Wanted to, but it's already just a few characters short of the 200-byte limit. EEng 18:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
OK, just for you I've made the effort:
ALT1a ... that in 1901, John Girdner identified nearsightedness (caused by omnipresent buildings) as a symptom of Newyorkitis, and a colleague wrote that female mental activity induced nervousness in urbanites?
(199 chars) EEng 19:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Outstanding! Coretheapple (talk) 19:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, EEng, but I was hoping for something snappier for the quirky slot. Like:
  • ALT2: ... that the symptoms of Newyorkitis include "haste, rudeness, arrogance, pursuit of novelty and of grandeur, and pretensions of omniscience"?
  • ALT3: ... that according to prominent New York surgeon John Girdner, Manhattan's omnipresent buildings and noise cause a physical disease called Newyorkitis?
  • ALT4: ... that in 1908, treatment for the symptoms of Newyorkitis was being offered at a New York YMCA?
  • Yoninah (talk) 20:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Well I certainly won't be offended if any of those is selected over mine. But I always get a kick out of reminding people of outmoded social ideas such as that women thinking causes trouble. EEng 21:59, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

* Alt 3 describes "Newyorkitis" best, but I would add a reference to 1901. Coretheapple (talk) 15:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Since parentheses are frowned on in DYK hooks (see WP:DYKSG#C9), I'm proposing a variant combining ALT1a hook with ALT2 (ALT5) to stay focused on Girdner's book, and an ALT3a to address Coretheapple's issue:
  • ALT3a: ... that according to John Girdner, a prominent New York surgeon in 1901, Manhattan's omnipresent buildings and noise cause a physical disease called Newyorkitis?
  • ALT5: ... that in 1901, John Girdner identified nearsightedness, caused by omnipresent buildings, as one symptom of Newyorkitis, with others being "haste, rudeness, arrogance" and "pretensions of omniscience"?
ALT5 is 199 prose characters; one of the trio of "haste, rudeness, arrogance" could be removed to trim the length a bit. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Why not replace "omnipresent" with "looming" buildings, per source? And "a symptom" instead of "one sympton"? Cuts down on the characters. Adding "Dr."
Coretheapple (talk) 21:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
ALT6 has too many commas. It also says everything in one line, making it unnecessary to click on the article. Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
OK, Yoninah, how about
ALT 7 * ... that in 1901, a noted surgeon identified Newyorkitis, caused by living in Manhattan, whose symptoms included haste, rudeness, and "pretensions of omniscience"?
'--Coretheapple (talk) 04:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Le Concert Spirituel

  • Reviewed: Hebrides Terrace Seamount
  • Comment: The article had a crazy history, developed independently by two users here, and one there, and merged. Users listed in chronological order.

Created by LouisAlain (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk), and Mccapra (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Reviewing... Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expanded 5x, I couldn't see any dodgy copyvios. Might I suggest the paragraphs should be merged a bit? QPQ done. Might I suggest the hook is a little wordy, and could be cut a bit? The hooky bit is that it was played with 18 oboes and a band, perhaps not that they focus on French sacred music, which could be gleamed from the prose in the article? Other than that, good to go. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:30, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you! Well, English music is not their normal thing to play, as their name suggests. We could drop that HIP clause. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused about the hook wording. Do you want to say:
  • ALT0a: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, an ensemble focused on French sacred music and opera, played Handel's open-air music at The Proms with 18 oboes and a band to match?
  • But there is no citation for the ensemble performing sacred music. And the first paragraph under Recordings lacks a cite.
  • Personally, I think there is too much going on in this hook. If they play sacred music and opera, why are we mentioning Handel? I think it would be more interesting to talk about the ensemble, like:
  • ALT1: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, founded in 1987, revives the French repertoire played at the court of Versailles, using period instruments?
  • As there is no citation for the period instruments part, that could be left off the hook as needed. Yoninah (talk) 23:49, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Trying to absorb:
ALT2: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, an ensemble focused on reviving music performed at the court of Versailles, played Handel's open-air music at The Proms with 18 oboes and a band to match?
I think we need to say "performed" vs. "played" as at least a hint that they mostly sing, not only play. Link to the court perhaps? Years are normally not hooky, and "revive" more or less includes the historically informed way, - how else would one revive? "sacred" would be supported by most titles in their recordings, but is a bit of an ambiguous word, so let's do without. As the reviewer noted, the 18 oboes are hooky - 2 is normal - so should not be left out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: but your ALT2 hook is still mixing chalk and cheese. If they specialize in old French repertoire, why are we talking about them playing Handel? Yoninah (talk) 10:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Because of the contrast. If me mentioned some French opera or Requiem, the whole "focus" thing could be dropped, but now the 18 oboes were (only?) in this English music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • So? It doesn't make sense to twist and turn a hook to fit into 18 oboes. Good hooks can be written from any information. Yoninah (talk) 11:26, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Gerda Arendt, Yoninah, I have just added inline citations for both "period instruments" and "French sacred music", so that issue shouldn't hold back any hooks any longer. If a new focus for a hook is needed, perhaps something could be done with Sémélé by Marais (world premiere recording that won the Echo Klassik, though that would require additional sourcing for "world premiere"). In any event, it would be nice to get this nomination moving again. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt, Yoninah, and BlueMoonset: How about the following suggestions?
ALT1a: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, founded in 1987, revives the French repertoire played at the court of Versailles?
ALT3 ... that Le Concert Spirituel, a French baroque ensemble, performs period music originally played at the court of Versailles?
ALT3a ... that the baroque ensemble Le Concert Spirituel was founded to revive great French works that were originally played at the court of Versailles?
ALT4 ... that Le Concert Spirituel, a French baroque ensemble, was nominated for the Grammy Awards in 2001 and 2013?
ALT5 ... that a recording of Marin Marais's Sémélé by the Le Concert Spirituel won "Opera Recording of the Year" at Germany's Echo Klassik Awards in 2009?
As an outsider to the topic but a history buff, I found it interesting that the group's focus is on music used in Versailles, so perhaps that's one possible angle that can be given focus. For an angle that might appeal to a broader audience, the Grammy Awards angle is also an option, perhaps in combination with other proposals like the Versailles angle. Meanwhile, I have to repeat Yoninah's observation above that several parts of the "Recordings" section, including the entire DVDs section, is unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for trying, but ... sigh. Here, I thought I could please you by a truly hooky thing, those 18 oboes, unheard of, - and I happened to hear it on radio, after I worded the hook. I find the court alone, the levee ceremony, the unknown opera and prizes much less hooky, and Handel's Water Music is one of the most popular pieces of Classical music, no? - Generally: I think the article on Baroque music would be rather confusing for someone who has no idea what it is, but that someone would probably not be interested in details about this group anyway. An article French Baroque music would be nice to have, but is only a sad redirect. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 16[]

Ulrich Mohr

Ulrich Mohr in 1940
Ulrich Mohr in 1940

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 10:12, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Date, hook, article size, and sources all check out, and the article follows Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Photo licensing seems to be in order. Good to go. — Hunter Kahn 04:36, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg@Hunter Kahn:@Philafrenzy:@Whispyhistory: even without the "(pictured)", the hook is way over 200 characters long. Yoninah (talk) 12:18, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    • Oops yes, my mistake Yoninah, though it's actually only 13 characters over without counting the (pictured). Philafrenzy, how would the below hook work as an alternate? — Hunter Kahn 13:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
... that German naval officer Ulrich Mohr (pictured) led the search party of the captured Automedon that found documents revealing the British could not hold Singapore if it was attacked by the Japanese?
Thanks, that's fine. There is an alt as I am not sure that readers will get the full significance of the captured papers from the existing hook:
Alt1 ... that when seeking to board an enemy ship, German naval officer Ulrich Mohr (pictured) sometimes disguised himself as a British officer? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

San Michele Arcangelo ai Corridori di Borgo

View of the church of San Michele Arcangelo with the passetto in background (1900 ca.)
View of the church of San Michele Arcangelo with the passetto in background (1900 ca.)
  • Reviewed: Old City of Hebron
  • Comment: In case of decision in favour of ALT1 we could substitute the picture of the church with that of the fresco, also in the article

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

  • The English needs a going over - I've put in Nursing Madonna instead of the wholly unidiomatic Virgin of the Milk with the Child! Johnbod (talk) 04:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
  • You are absolutely right @Johnbod: my mother tongue is Italian, and this is immediately apparent from reading the text. P.S. Maybe if you have time you could also have a look to the via Giulia article, which I expanded but, having been already on DYK, I cannot propose here. Alex2006 (talk) 10:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have just requested that the article receive a copy at the Guild of Copy Editors request page; given the current rate of reviewing there, it will probably be completed by the end of the month, at which point the review here can resume. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:19, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Hallo @Johnbod: & @BlueMoonset:, I tried to copy the article (which was really in a shameful state, SOM!). You can either give green light for a review or wait for a professional copy. Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 12:22, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg copy-ed. Ready for review now. Johnbod (talk) 18:00, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Climate sensitivity

Improved to Good Article status by Femkemilene (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Article being actively worked on; see talk page. HLHJ (talk) 04:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
  • And article work is now finished (other round of copy- + removal of jargon). Femke Nijsse (talk) 09:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Striking hook with too many "climates" in it. Yoninah (talk) 00:01, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 17[]

Amar Asha

  • Reviewed: Winston Price
  • Comment: GOCE request. Ongoing copy.  Done

Created by Nizil Shah (talk) and Gazal world (talk). Nominated by Nizil Shah (talk) at 05:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Drive-by comment: I added the translation of the title, but the hook really isn't that hooky. Yoninah (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah:, Mahatma Gandhi is a popular major figure in relation to politics and philosophy so readers may wonder about a poem reviewed by him. I found it the most hooky. -Nizil (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
And the most interesting fact is that, this review is the only literary piece written by Gandhi. --Gazal world (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, that would be a more interesting hook fact, Gazal world. As it stands, though, the hook is just name-dropping a famous person who "reviewed" it. How about adding more color to the hook? Like:
  • ALT1: ... that Mahatma Gandhi praised the Gujarati poem "Amar Asha" ("Immortal Hope"), saying that Hindus and Muslims "both should be proud of it"? Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Thats better. Thanks, -Nizil (talk) 06:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Oxford Circus

Improved to Good Article status by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:40, 17 February 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg This seems pretty short for an intersection of this much renown, and especially for a Good Article. But it does meet all of the criteria. Incidentally (as a fun fact), you could've just claimed this as a 5x expansion and it would still have been eligible (expansion would have been calculated from 12 February). epicgenius (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

This source says Oxford Circus was the busiest but is no longer. In terms of scope, I discovered many sources that refer to "Oxford Circus" actually mean Oxford Street, Regent Street, Soho or Oxford Circus tube station, all of which are GAs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ritchie333: All right then. For ALT0, I suggest replacing "has been" with "was" or something else that confirms it is past tense. "Has been" might signify either past tense or that it is ongoing. The scope is fine: big cities tend to refer to different topics by the same name (our equivalent in NYC might be the Triborough Bridge, which refers to a bridge and to the parent authority). I can take a look at ALT0 again after the hook is changed. epicgenius (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Actually, on further thought, the fact that Oxford Circus is no longer London's busiest pedestrian crossing isn't in that article. So that would have to be added. Provisionally, I think I can technically approve ALT0 and ALT1, though I find the latter to be not too interesting. epicgenius (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: How about ALT3 (a modification of ALT0):
... that Oxford Circus was once London's busiest pedestrian crossing?
I still think ALT1 isn't very interesting, as per my comment above, and ALT2 may not be appealing to a broad audience. However, I'm willing to approve ALT1 if you don't like the proposed ALT3, since ALT1 might possibly be interesting to other people. epicgenius (talk) 16:53, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 20[]

Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)

Henry Purcell, by John Closterman, 1695
Henry Purcell, by John Closterman, 1695
  • Reviewed: Emerson Emory
  • Comment: Sorry, a day late (because I was at a funeral almost all day yesterday). Sorry, such a long title that not much room is left for a hook. Sorry, the main source is offline. Sorry, even the publisher of his complete works (and many performers following) got confused about belonging or not to the Music composed for Queen Mary's burial, and the Z. numbers.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I don't see this one going forward, because there's no compelling reason to waive/relax the newness standard in this case. Still a great article, just not one well suited to DYK to begin with. buidhe 16:35, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't know why a funeral in RL is no "compelling reason" for you. I really was not in the mood. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think there's much harm done in an IAR exemption in this case, since it was only a day late. With that said, I agree that the current hook as written is too technical to be interesting to a broad audience, although I think the Queen Mary part has potential. How about wordings like these then? I've written them in such a way that they avoid using the full title as the main link:
ALT1 ... that Henry Purcell wrote a chorale composition for the 1695 funeral of Queen Mary?
ALT2 ... that among the funerary chorale compositions that Henry Purcell adapted from the Book of Common Prayer was one written for the 1695 funeral of Queen Mary?
I think something else could be added to these, or the wordings could be tweaked further, but they could serve as good starting points for further ideas. What do you think Buidhe? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:56, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, the title has to be there. It will be recognised by many. There are several funeral sentences, and for the funeral of Queen Mary, Purcell composed only this single one, the others being by a different composer. - Please understand the difference between "chorale" - based on a chorale - and "choral" - for choir, but again, better don't pipe at all. - For me, it IS interesting that Purcell didn't set several of the part of a funeral service at all, but this one - and only this one - twice. Could you perhaps word that better? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm very sorry Gerda, but I think at this point you need to realize that not everyone in the world is knowledgeable about classical music, and what may seem quirky to you may not seem so to reviewers or to general audiences. There are times when it seems you tend to overestimate how much the typical reader would recognize terms, names, and titles, and your comment above (which implies that audiences might know about "Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts") is one of them. To be fair, I think many of us DYK regulars (myself included) are guilty of this, but it's something that needs to be avoided whenever possible. I would really suggest discussing with Buidhe about other possible hook wordings, those that may actually appeal not just to classical music fans, because right now it just doesn't seem that a hook about a complex and a simple would pass on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I am surprised that you think the average user would not recognise the terms "simple" and "Queen". - I oversimplified the value the various versions have for musicologists, for that average user's sake. Sloppy version of a hook: ... that if someone speaks about TkLtsooh you have to ask which one? Want to word that? Most people think there is only one.
ALT3: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) set no complete Anglican burial servive to music, but one of its sentences twice, Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
That was not the point I made Gerda. I didn't say that average readers wouldn't know about queens: in fact, I mentioned above that a hook about the Queen Mary aspect would likely be the best option here. What I was saying was that terms like "composed basically two settings", "a complex one early" or "a simple one" wouldn't make much sense to those unfamiliar with classical music. Your ALT1 (which I've renumbered as ALT3) has the same issue: it doesn't make sense to people who don't know its context. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I am afraid that I can't follow. My thinking: the sentence (without) will be highly familiar to everyone who knows English Anglican burial service tradition, which I assume will be many but not all, therefore I tried to explain the context, with a link. We could say that he wrote one of the many sentences for Queen Mary's funeral, but then would miss the one interesting thing: that for that purpose he composed a new one, although there was already an older one which he had polished again and again, (and therefore I said basically, because there are at least three versions of the early one). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Narutolovehinata5 asked me for feedback, so may I suggest another hook?
ALT4: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) composed two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts—one of which was for the burial of Queen Mary?
ALT5: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) composed two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts, including a simple one for the burial of Queen Mary?
I feel like these may appeal to a greater audience. epicgenius (talk) 16:43, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Just passing by. My thoughts—the above two are not bad, IMO, but perhaps they still give away a bit much? What about keeping in reserve what the Queen Mary event is? Something like:
ALT6: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) composed two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts, including a simple one for a most unfortunate day in Queen Mary's life?
Or something along those lines? Just an idea. Airborne84 (talk) 04:22, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
"Spare us, Lord!" - that's a quote from the text, DYK? Did you read above that the sentence is one of those recited at every Anglican burial? No secret about which kind of day, and how "in Q.M.'s life"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
My bad. Was just passing by. I did briefly scan the above discussion but must have missed it. Thanks for kindly pointing that out. But I'm new here, so I'll just move on and let you DYK veterans sort this one out. Airborne84 (talk) 22:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

On the other hand, perhaps I'll watch for a bit. It does seem like an interesting discussion. Perhaps I'll still yet be able to help. Airborne84 (talk) 22:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining, - I should have looked ;) - Anyway, I can live with ALT4 and ALT5, in case that was not clear. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Old City of Hebron

The Old City of Hebron
The Old City of Hebron

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Starting review: Alex2006 (talk) 08:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg The article complies with almost all the requirements for DYK, but I see two problems: the first is that at the moment it is out of scope: it does not deal about the historic center of Hebron, but above all about the Israel occupation of the historic center of Hebron. It is not even explained why UNESCO considers it as a World Heritage Site. I think that first of all we need an "history" section where to put the info about the occupation, and then the article needs to be expanded, or to be renamed. Moreover, it is not completely neutral; for example, in the last sentence of the introduction, the source used (haaretz) is a liberal, left wing Israel newspaper. It would be good to know also the point of view of the government about the reason for the expulsion of the Temporary International Presence in Hebron. Alex2006 (talk) 11:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

There are severe POV problems with this article:
  • The article it doesn't mention all the controversy and criticism surrounding of site recognition by UNESCO [9]
 Now added to article. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It only gives a small one sentence about Jewish community while omitting its rich history and what happened to her along the history
 Per discussion below, covered adequately at Hebron#History.. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It give POV explanation to the security measure by IDF from one side POV source without mention terrorist activities by Palestinian groups.
 Per discussion below, covered adequately at Hebron#History.. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
--Shrike (talk) 13:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Alessandro57 and Shrike: for your comments. I focused my efforts when building this article on setting out the main sights, the divisions of the city, the current legal status, and finding good maps (the maps bit being the most time consuming...) All these points are good and fair, but this article is not up for WP:FA so it isn’t expected to be a fulsome account of all the political and historical complexities. These points are all addressed in great detail in the parent article at Hebron.

How can we address your POV concerns without turning this into a very long and complex article and without duplicating all the information at Hebron?

Onceinawhile (talk) 13:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

The point of view of the government about the reason for the expulsion of the Temporary International Presence in Hebron seems to be explained here. I say "seems to be" because it is "a liberal, left wing Israel newspaper":) Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Selfstudier:, then this point of view can be added (with its reference) to the article, and a point is solved. @Onceinawhile:, anyway, if, as you affirm, the "political and historical complexities" of Hebron are fully addressed in the article about the city, there is no need to repeat them here. Then I would focus the scope of this article on the historic center, writing more about the cultural and art treasures of the center itself, and maybe mentioning the controversy arisen because of the site recognition by UNESCO. Political and historical problems can be addressed through a redirect to the Hebron article or one of its sections. Alex2006 (talk) 17:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree I suggest removing the TIPH part, the UNESCO controversy should discussed from all angles also a connection to Jewish people should be mentioned explicitly.I think also if we want the hook about the Unesco the controversy should be part of the hook -Shrike (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
The observer group was originally set up following the well known massacre at the Ibrahimi mosque and since Israel is now insisting that it be included in the proposed annexation map being drawn up by an Israeli-US committee, it seems pertinent to retain the TIPH material in some (perhaps amended) form.Selfstudier (talk) 18:30, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I don't know what precisely you mean by "UNESCO controversy", do you refer to the U.S./Israel objection to the listing? If I recall there were only 3 votes against the proposal. However, I agree with the reviewer that it should be explained why UNESCO decided to list it.Selfstudier (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

@Alessandro57: would you mind taking a look at the revised article and let me know if you would like any further changes? Onceinawhile (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment Nothing really has changed the article use the same POV language usage of partisan sites like +972 and Betzelem while no sites with opposites POVs provide only half truths for example it does mention IDF security measures and the Hardship of Palestinian Arabs but didn't say why they where in force. IMO in current form the article could not be promoted --Shrike (talk) 16:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg I still don't see the reason why UNESCO inserted the historic center in the List of the heritage sites: this should be mentioned in the article. Moreover, I don't think that writing "covered adequately at Hebron#History" on this page solves the POV problem, since we cannot expect that a reader jumps by herself from this article to the one about Hebron: you should at least provide two redirects in the article explaining that if someone wants to know the Jewish history of the site and wants a non - POV explaination of the security measure by IDF should go to the main article (and, of course, it would be much better to have some information also here about these issues). Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 10:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
There were two aspects to the listing, the listing itself and the contemporaneous "in danger" listing (which is supposedly why the listing was exped). I will see what can be found for both aspects. I do think we should be a little careful that do not mix up religion with nationality. The "Jewishness" is a religious thing (ie the comparative is Muslim/Christian). A listing is inscribed along with a nationality (usually, the Old City was proposed by Jordan and is not categorized under any country). In this case, that is Palestinian and not Israeli. So when Netanyahu is quoted as saying "[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/unesco-recognises-hebron-as-palestinian-world-heritage-site “This time they decided that the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron is a Palestinian site, meaning not Jewish, and that it’s in danger." it is this that is the POV position ie wrongly comparing Palestine with Jewish (a country with a religion). This mischaracterization is the basis of all of the Israeli complaints. Shrike, all sources are biased, should you actually have access to these mysterious non partisan sources then why not add them to the article or are you simply content to complain about the sources that don't agree with your own POV?Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Selfstudier:, I wanted to ask the same: ;-) @Shrike:, why don't you work together with the author of the article and try to reach a compromise? Alex2006 (talk) 17:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I try to make it less POV but I think its nominator responsibility to make the article to meet the DYK standards. --Shrike (talk) 17:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I had to read the ICOMOS report to try and verify the real reason for inscription so what follows is OR. If I had to summarize the report, ICOMOS were forced to consider the application on an exped basis based on Palestinian allegations of a threat to the site and while they did conclude that the property was under threat they were not convinced (that is, the case was not sufficiently made) that the listing was otherwise justified and sought a field visit to take that forward. Then that field visit never happened because they were refused permission and subsequently UNESCO passed a resolution inscribing the property onto the list of sites in danger based on what they had (ie what I just described). Locating secondary sources describing this might be a bit of a problem but I will have a go anyway. In the meantime, I directly linked the report (and the submissions) in the article text, at least people can read it for themselves (these are however, primary sources).Selfstudier (talk) 19:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I located a couple of secondary sources to document the above, I think that should clarify the "why" of the listing, that it was essentially a political decision based on the information available at the time.Selfstudier (talk) 13:25, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21[]

Integer BASIC

  • Reviewed: Reema Juffali
  • Comment: Series of s over two weeks just hit 5x according to DKY Check. Lots of ALTs because, well, it's Woz, there's always lots of possibilities! Personally, I think "Woz" should be "the Great and Mighty Woz", but I doubt the nebbishes would allow it; so let's put it on one and see what happens. Question: lots of images of Integer BASIC being run, could any of them possibly be used?

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 3 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I don't wish to be such a party pooper on a fine expansion, but two weeks is outside of the timeframe to 5x expand, although I seem to recall on previous occasions we have turned a blind eye to that when the work has been particularly good. Yoninah, can you remind me what the generally accepted procedure is here? Also, I know what "The Great And Powerful Woz" is referring to, but not everyone will, so that'll need a source. Similarly, the prose jumps between "Woz" and "Wozniak"; I think for an encyclopedia we should go with the latter as "Woz" sounds too much like jargon for those "in the know". I personally like the main hook the best, it's the most quirky and the most interesting to a non-developer, but ALT1 works for me as well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:14, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Wait, what? Had I any idea that was the rule, I would have simply ed all the changes in Smultron and uploaded in a single go. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ritchie333: hi, the rule is 7 days. I don't have time to check whether it's really a 5x expansion, but it looks like the nominator's work started on February 21, 11 days before nominating, which is only 4 days late. You could IAR if you want. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Edward Ardolino

Moved to mainspace by E54495a (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 14:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: You need to say WHEN it was moved to mainspace, especially when there are many hundreds of s, as here. It was 21 Feb in this case. I won't review but some of the sculpture terminology is oddly used. One caption says the piece was "sculpted" by A and "carved" by B. The distinction needs to be clarified - presumably B was working from A's modello. Johnbod (talk) 04:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Reply User:Johnbod Moved February 21, 2020. Nominated for DYK February 28, 2020. 7&6=thirteen () 10:13, 9 March 2020 (UTC)Moved February 21, 2020. Nominated for DYK February 28, 2020. 7&6=thirteen () 10:13, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24[]

Al and Barbara Garvey

Source: Beth Winegarner (December 2003). "How Marin County Became Synonymous With Hot Tubs." Marinscope Community Newspapers

Source: Duncan Campbell (July 2002). "From hot tub to hot water", The Guardian.

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Note that the article has been changed since its nomination, with the topic expanding to include Al's wife, Barbara. The article's name is now Al and Barbara Garvey. This was done because both of them worked on establishing hot tub culture in Marin County, both of them pushed the resurgence of tango dancing in the San Francisco Bay Area, and they have collaborated on art projects. Their fame is combined. Binksternet (talk) 17:16, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I am interested in doing a review for this nomination. I notice there are several excellent photos used in the article, and I am curious if the nominator wishes to propose hooks using any of the images? I hope to finish my review by tomorrow. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 04:18, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • NOTE, I crossed off ALT0 since the article title has been renamed. I am open to a reworded version of the hook. Flibirigit (talk) 04:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for suggesting a photo. When I first wrote this DYK nom, the photos were not yet uploaded by Al Garvey, so I didn't even consider it. But you're right, it would be fun to have a photo, for instance the hot tub one (which probably would not scale down very well) or perhaps File:Al and Barbara Garvey with hats.jpg which isn't used in the article but was part of the upload batch from Al Garvey the other day (see Commons:Al and Barbara Garvey for all the images).
Otherwise, I could pick a tango image and write a hook about tango. What's your preference? Binksternet (talk) 04:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I really have no preference, it's your choice if you want to use an image. Since there is a discussion here regarding photo licenses, a final decision on images might have to be deferred until that discussion is closed. I can however go ahead and review the rest of the article. I will do my best to have the first review done within 24 hours. Flibirigit (talk) 05:01, 23 March 2020 (UTC)


Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article was created on February 23 and nominated within seven days. Questions on sourcing and citations listed below. ALT1 is interesting and has potential. It is verified with the source provided, but the phrase "started Marin County's hot tub culture" or similar are not explicity mentioned or cited in the section "Hot tub culture". Plagiarism is borderline since some direct quotes are rather long and include multiple sentences. Article is neutral in tone. Length is adequate. QPQ requirement is complete. Overall the article is in decent shape. Please don't be discouraged with the questions listed. The Commons discussion on the photos needs to be resolved. This article would be much better with photos than without. I am also open to considering other hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 08:42, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Questions

  • I tweaked the wording and fleshed out the bare URL. The Garveys two children are not in a published reference, just part of general knowledge about the couple. Binksternet (talk) 00:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the changes. It would be best to hide or remove general statements without a clear source. I added a few more to the questions above. The discussion at the common regarding the photos appears to be ongoing. Flibirigit (talk) 18:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have noticed some progress in the Commons discussion here. Do you want to wait until that is resolved? I don't mind putting this on hold if necessary. Flibirigit (talk) 02:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Sure, we can wait and see what happens at Commons. Binksternet (talk) 04:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Sony Xperia 1 II

  • Reviewed: Mayfeld
  • Comment: Cring User:Ghostofakina for significantly expanding the article following its creation, from 424 chars to 3979 chars.

Created by Nimda01 (talk). Nominated by You've gone incognito (talk) at 15:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg All looks good. Just try rewording the hook! Soaper1234 - talk 23:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Partisan Congress riots

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 25[]

Takapūneke

  • Reviewed: Jammu and Kashmir Public Safety Act, 1978
  • Comment: Well, this needs a tad more work. I had been working with a source (a 2015 article published on Stuff) that appears to be wrong as the Waitangi Treatment Ground does apparently not have National Reserve status. I'll look into it, fix the respective pages and comment here when done. But it needs to be nominated now as 7 days is nearly up.
  • Should be all good now. Schwede66 01:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Schwede66, this is clearly an article about a location. Would it be possible to include co-ordinates? Then we could have an OSM locator map in an infobox (Template:Infobox settlement might be suitable). I'd imagine quite a lot of people even in New Zealand don't know where Akaroa is without looking it up, so it would be helpful to readers. HLHJ (talk) 04:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Here it is, looking southeastwards into the bay; Takapūneke is just right of the last of the residential housing on the far side. What a great anchorage!
Chart showing holding ground
  • Ah, the pitfalls of trying to review something one knows nothing about... at least I'll ask all the stupid questions. Thank you for your patience, Schwede66. Firstly, Earwig is now functioning (bug), and the page was always copyvio-free. Check. Thank you very much for adding the Infobox and locator map. Thanks for clarifying the list refs; that should have been clear to me, but was not. "the events subsequently called the Elizabeth affair" is uncited, and I should have specified that initially; I do not consider this serious and you can leave it if you like. The lede also states that Tama-i-hara-nui was tortured and killed; his Dictionary of New Zealand Biography entry says he was certainly killed, and that most accounts agree that agree that he was tortured by the wives of the eight Ngāti Toa chiefs, but this is not in the body of the article, so it is not cited.
I wasn't advocating that you remove detail on the conflict from the article; I was trying to say that I was not insisting you go on to add every detail you could find. I should have noticed that this could be ambiguous in a text-only channel. Your goal of distillation seems good. Certainly I wasn't suggesting that you go there and take photos; I was actually thinking of a live zoomable OSM map, as at Ōnawe Peninsula. However, you prompted me to poke around Commons, and I did find a (very high-res) panorama that shows it, but no closer images. It's also technically shown in File:Bucht in Neuseeland.jpg.[1]
On neutrality: if you have a book source which says that the Ngāti Toa were only pretending to want to trade for greenstone ("pre-emptive strike" does not quite imply that the Ngāti Toa did not come to trade for greenstone on that occasion), then "pretence" is fine; otherwise it might be better something like "Eight of Te Rauparaha's chiefs were killed after they had entered Kaiapoi Pā claiming that they wished to trade for greenstone". It seems that the Ngāti Toa had just razed one or two Ngāi Tahu pās, which does rather cast suspicion on the intentions of the eight chiefs, but this is supposition; I would have no objection to your leaving the reader to make it, or quoting an RS making it. The Dictionary of New Zealand Biography says (of an immediately preceeding conflict): "Tama-i-hara-nui was less than enthusiastic to fight when he saw the returning refugees were armed with muskets, although his party also had guns", which seems to contradict the statement that the Ngāi Tahu had no guns (though they might have had far fewer); possibly I have missed something here.
The rest of this is suggestions, not review. Ignoramus-perspective again, but while I don't fully understand the roots of this conflict, it seems that John Stewart's involvement was very simply grounded in a payment of 50 tonnes of muka (which implies, rather appallingly, that he set a value on human life of three or more lives to the tonne of muka). Would it make sense to mention that Te Rauparaha hired or chartered the brig and captain? This need not take more than one or two words, and seems relevant to the subsequent legal proceedings. I attempted to give a hint of the nature of the causal link to the Treaty of Waitangi; crit welcome. I've globalized the New Zealand English slightly by referring to Phormium tenax as "harakeke flax", as it makes the later statements about collecting flax make more sense than if one is imagining retting the stems of purple-flowering plants in the corner of a field... if you object feel free to revert or modify. I've also modified flax, as Wikipedia readers include speakers of New Zealand English Face-smile.svg. HLHJ (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
HLHJ, thanks for taking such a deep interest. Rather than writing a long and detailed response, I shall work through the list by individual s and documenting what I've done in responses. As for the photos, yes, I've also done a deep search on Commons. The photo you included on this page is taken from Hilltop; it's "the photo stop" when you travel to Akaroa as it's the first (and best) place to gain a view of Akaroa Harbour. The peninsula at the beginning of the bay is Ōnawe, by the way. As for a photo of Takapūneke itself, I took one of the sewage treatment plant a few years ago but it's vanished. I've only recently become aware of Takapūneke's historical significance, which is somewhat surprising given my deep interest in local history. Schwede66 21:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I tend to overdo DYK reviews, Schwede66. I've made suggestions that go far beyond DYK requirements; don't feel obliged. The lack of photos on Commons does rather suggest that the site is not a major tourist destination (well, so did building a sewage plant). Thank you for documenting it; the article will now be accessible through many map interfaces. In Ngāi Tahu, I came across a source on the Elizabeth incident, and European reactions to it, along with the very extensive https://teara.govt.nz/en/ngati-toarangatira and https://teara.govt.nz/en/ngai-tahu (including a detailed account, with an account why the chiefs were thought to be pretending to trade (overheard comments; the Ngāti Toarangatira may have relied too much on differences in local languages), and the surprising info that the legal difficulty was that anyone considered heathen was not allowed to be a witness in court: https://teara.govt.nz/en/ngai-tahu/page-6). HLHJ (talk) 22:17, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

No trouble. It's not a tourist destination whatsoever! If and when the national reserve status goes through that'll presumably change. It's good to have a decent article for it, though. I've finished working through the feedback; thanks heaps for taking so much interest. The article is all the better for it. Schwede66 22:53, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg See further discussion on Talk:Takapūneke. @Schwede66: Nearly ready; conflicting accounts of an episode in a war still need a bit of work for neutrality. HLHJ (talk) 02:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ There are a lot of near-misses: the headland on the right hosts the Britomart Monument shown at File:Akaroa 4 (31225076752).jpg. Also, File:Akaroa village grassland (Unsplash).jpg, view of the headland which hides the bay, far right, the bit just hidden behind the foreground hills to the far right here and here, and File:Banks Peninsula.JPG

Upāli

Upāli
Upāli

5x expanded by Farang Rak Tham (talk) and Spasemunki (talk). Nominated by Farang Rak Tham (talk) at 22:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 26[]

Bahra 1

Created by Aszu23 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, long and neutral enough. I'd add Kuwait to the hook. But I can't see the hook fact in the article, though it does check out from the linked ref. Please add. Johnbod (talk) 15:56, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
As far as I can tell the relevant quote is ...which would make it the oldest cult building not only in Kuwait but in the whole Persian Gulf region; however, this appears to be referring only to a specific complex and not the settlement as a whole. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
It's very clearly stated in the linked source - it just needs adding to the article. Johnbod (talk) 00:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
The nominator hasn't ed since the day of the nomination, so I've left them a message. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:18, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I added information and a source from the hook, thank you! Aszu23 (talk) 23:11, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Resuming. Hook & source now ok, but Earwig, which I hadn't done before, now picks up:

Article: "Objects found inside the settlement attest to the strong ties with southern Mesopotamia. Contacts with Ubaid centers in Mesopotamia are evidenced mainly by a large number of imported pottery, both richly-decorated luxury vessels and undecorated storage vessels. Small objects of fired clay, possibly personal adornments, are also typical of the Ubaid culture. However, Bahra 1 also yielded objects typical of the so-called Arabian Neolithic: pottery (so-called Coarse Red Ware)"

[pcma.uw.edu.pl/en/2019/04/21/bahra-1-2 Source]:"...but at the same time to have had strong relations with southern Mesopotamia. Contacts with Ubaid centers in Mesopotamia are evidenced by a large number of imported pottery, both richly-decorated luxury vessels /6, 7, 8/ and undecorated storage vessels. Small objects of fired clay /11/ – possibly personal adornments /12/ – are also typical of the Ubaid culture. However, also found were objects characteristic of the so-called Arabian Neolithic: pottery (so-called Coarse Red Ware ..."

That's the only problemmatic bit, but it's too much. Notifying nominator. And "in Kuwait" still needs adding imo. Johnbod (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I corrected and added new sources, sorry for the delay Aszu23 (talk) 18:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Nikita Salogor

Moldavian irredentist map
Moldavian irredentist map

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 07:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 28[]

Ulrich Stranz

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 23:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

  • I would really suggest that a different hook be proposed here, as it basically says that a composer composed a work. It says nothing about his life, career, or accomplishments. In addition, the hook as written would only appeal to those interested in European classical music and not to a broad international audience, as it mentions niche topics such as a Munich performance or a soloist that most people have not heard of. I would suggest that a different hook be written about him, something that would make even someone not interested in classical music want to learn more about him. Perhaps the part that goes Stranz spent two years at the electronic studio in Utrecht could be a good starting point here? I'm really wondering what an electronic studio has to do with classical music.
As an additional comment, the part which goes Stranz died in Zürich shortly before his 58th birthday of cancer. He was buried at the Fluntern Cemetery. is unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
You are right, and I am busy, and know little about the person. Patience please. - Look at Stockhausen perhaps to understand how much classical contemporary music has to do with electronic music. The composer who recently died won the Pulitzer prize for a completely electronic piece of music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Haʻaheo Kaniu

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 05:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I think I like ALT0 the best, but the word "stole" doesn't seem to exactly reflect the relevant paragraph in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I was trying to make it more hooky. How about changing it to "took". KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
I think that sounds more accurate. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
There technically hasn't been a real review. Changing ALT0 to took doesn't make sense and adding anymore details like stole the future king Kalākaua away to raise as a baby? just makes it more bland. How about just ALT1? KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:21, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is the better option actually. I apologize for the late reply as I had gotten into some real-life issues lately, but I'll try to do a full review by tomorrow if not later. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: How about that? KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
While more accurate, it doesn't really sounds like a "hooky" hook. Perhaps a new direction is needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 29[]

Daulat (Mughal painter)

Self-portrait by Daulat
Self-portrait by Daulat

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 18:26, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough (~3500 characters), new enough, no copyvio, sourced and neutral. The hook is sourced and interesting, and the image is public domain. Just waiting for the QPQ to be completed. Tenpop421 (talk) 13:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • We may both have a bit of a wait; he only seems to once a fortnight. I've given him a prod. Johnbod (talk) 17:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

J. David Jentsch

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Achaea (talk) at 20:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Can you please address the "citation needed" tag, or remove the claim, and then I will approve this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

John Tiedtke

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (), Wilcley (talk), and StrayBolt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

ALT 1 ... that John Tiedtke, an heir to a grocery and department store fortune, was the philanthropic founder of a Bach festival?
  • @7&6=thirteen: Hi, I will review this. I don't know what happened with the wikicode, but I fixed it. I respect that Cunard has contributed greatly to this page's AFD discussion to show that it's notable, but unfortunately, he has never ed the article so I have removed his name from the nomination. epicgenius (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @7&6=thirteen: I don't think he "founded" the Winter Park Bach Festival, but kept it going. StrayBolt (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • If this is the case, the article and hook should be amended accordingly. epicgenius (talk) 21:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • He was Chairman of the Board of Trustees for over 50 years.[12] StrayBolt (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg epicgenius (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Reply I have put in multiple sources establishing that the Tiedtke Family Mausoleum is at Woodlawn Cemetery (Toledo, Ohio). The only source I could find that explicitly places his remains in the crypt is this one at Find a Grave Did you know at Find a Grave. I do not have access to Woodlawn Cemetery records. I know that there are those who opine that Find a Grave is "not a reliable source." I've always thought that to be doctrinaire and not well thought out. In any event, I have no better source at my finger tips.
The proposed alternate hook is fine with me.
The AFD will soon be inevitably and satisfactorily resolved in due course. 7&6=thirteen () 15:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
epicgenius AFD closed as KEEP. Per the closer: "The result was keep Since relisting to allow for examination of the sources, a consensus has emerged that the article should be kept." 7&6=thirteen () 13:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Everything looks in order, but since I can't approve my own hooks, we will have to wait for another reviewer. epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I like it. Great work on this article! Lightburst (talk) 04:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Hook tweaked. AFD closed as Keep. We only need a new reviewer? 7&6=thirteen () 12:16, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg The first parapgraph in the "Career" section is not cited. It appears that the similar citation from the lead section could be duplicated here? Flibirigit (talk) 02:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1[]

Provincial Mental Sanatorium Kortau

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self-nominated at 13:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 2[]

William Tennent III

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 23:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is within proper limits and is interesting. However, there are duplicate links in the body of the text. i.e.William Tennent and South Carolina General Assembly. Also, citations for book sources Howe(1858), Ramsey(1870), Kidd(2007), Bailey(1981), Krawczynski(2001), and Kramer(1953) lack page number designations. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Gwillhickers, Having no duplicate links is not a DYK requirement, nor is referencing specific page numbers. As I recall, most or all of the sources only had about one page on Tennent, so I didn't bother with page numbers. The article can be ed by everyone should anyone want to make those kind of changes, but I don't think they are necessary. MB 02:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
DYK criteria pertains to the hook size, length of the article, new enough, etc. You will not find rules and guidelines listed under DYK criteria. It was my understanding that DYK nominations must follow the same rules and guidelines { 1, 2 ) as do all articles. If this is, for some reason, something you refuse to do, or can't be bothered with, good luck with the next reviewer. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:53, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Blakenhall, Cheshire

  • Reviewed: Greyfriars, Winchelsea
  • Comment: Prefer the main hook; the alt is in case the sourcing is not deemed clear enough to support "one of ... earliest documented" wording.

5x expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self-nominated at 22:57, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 3[]

Hack of Jeff Bezos' phone

Created/expanded by M1nhm (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and length fine. However I have some serious concerns about this. First of all, the article is written in broken and ungrammatical English. Second of all, that title is very provocative and in my view seems to violate WP:NDESC. Thirdly, this is very WP:NPOV here and those hooks could not be accepted at all as they, and the article seem close to libellous if we ran them (article says the alleged hack came from the Prince's phone, but that doesn't prove he sent them). @M1nhm:, can you answer my concerns because I have to be honest, I am very close to declining this at the moment. But may ask advice from WT:DYK. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
    • @The C of E: I apologize for the delay in response. About ungrammatical English: the article was copy-ed.For WP:NDESC: I used this title (Hack of Jeff Bezos' phone) based on reliable sources like telegraph and nytimes and theguardian . I was going to change the title to "allegation to hacked of jeff's phone", but it is n't true. Please note that the phone was hacked (it is fact) but hacking by Saudi crown is questionable. So that I think the current title is true because I said nothing about who did the hack into the title.For WP:NPOV: I tried to collect all of the opinions in the article. Anyway please give me more time to find and fix NPOV issues. M1nhm (talk) 08:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
      • If that was copyed, I suggest you ask someone else because it clearly wasn't done by someone who was fully familiar with the English language. Examples: " the massage was sent from the personal account of the crown prince", "after the National Enquirer has released details of Bezos's private life". I'm sure you can see how this is clearly incorrect English, looks a lot like a google translate attempt to me. It will need some serious cleanup before we can even consider promoting this @M1nhm:. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
        • I tried to review the article and fixed the problem that were mentioned by you. If there are problems, please let me know. M1nhm (talk) 06:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee and The C of E:I tried to review the article and fixed the problem that were mentioned by you.I sent a message to you at article talk and waiting for your reply.M1nhm (talk) 06:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

M1nhm I don't think The C of E's major concern as expressed at the DYK link he gave above (now archived) has been fixed, and on rereading the article and the sources, I'm not sure it can be without stripping out everything that says it was bin Salman who did it. We don't usually want to say "it has been alleged" "The allegation is" "it was found" etc. We want to attribute this kind of thing. We want to say, "So-and-so alleges" and "Person X found" but unfortunately the sources dance around who exactly is alleging and finding this, too. And they're going around in circles -- the telegraph says the guardian reported it, for instance. And then there's the "highly probable" with "medium-to-high confidence" issue. I don't think this works for DYK, and frankly I'm a little leery of it being an article. --valereee (talk) 09:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The C of E, I've done a complete overhaul of the article, if you'd be willing to take another look. --valereee (talk) 11:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC) ETA: we're going to need some new ALTs, too, neither of these will work. --valereee (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that analysts claimed Jeff Bezos's phone was hacked because of Jamal Khashoggi's columns in the Washington Post? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/21/amazon-boss-jeff-bezoss-phone-hacked-by-saudi-crown-prince "Saudi experts – dissidents and analysts – told the Guardian they believed Bezos was probably targeted because of his ownership of the Post and its coverage of Saudi Arabia. Khashoggi’s critical columns about Mohammed bin Salman and his campaign of repression against activists and intellectuals rankled the crown prince and his inner circle." --valereee (talk) 13:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Kathleen Pelham Burn

Kathleen Pelham Burn
Kathleen Pelham Burn
  • Reviewed: Thomas I. Gasson
  • Comment: New creation of article; a version I have never seen was deleted last year in a user copyvio investigation.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg I really like the hooks; I think all the problems could be resolved by finding the source for that newspaper article. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 12:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

  • @YorkshireLad: I can look into that, but if you've found the original article, feel free to add it in yourself :) Kingsif (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Sure, I can have a go at that. :-) (I haven't got the article itself because I don't have access to the service that presents the articles, but I can look at the copy you uploaded to Commons.) I think in that case I'd like someone else to have a look over this review, since I'd then be an involved or and I'm still relatively early in my reviewing "career", so to speak. (This is my second review.) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 20:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 4[]

Art pottery

Art pottery "wave bowl" (not radioactive)
Art pottery "wave bowl" (not radioactive)

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

H. E. Merritt

Churchill tank
Churchill tank

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Review by Amakuru:

Symbol question.svg Summary: Needs the hook to be cited properly, and a QPQ done, then it should be good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:14, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Scrcpy

Created by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 05:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 5[]

HBCU band

Drum majors of the Jackson State University marching band
Drum majors of the Jackson State University marching band

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 00:53, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 6[]

Ball Farm

Ball Farm, Hankelow
Ball Farm, Hankelow
  • Alt1: ... that Ball Farm (pictured), in the small Cheshire village of Hankelow, might once have been used as a district court?
  • Reviewed: Michela Gallagher, Aberbargoed Grasslands
  • Comment: Double hook; Ball Farm is new (11 March), Hankelow (6 March) is an expansion. There is a little overlap but both are well over the minimum. The date is given in several places but the listing gives a wide range hence the alt.

Created/expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self-nominated at 08:27, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

HP Slate 21

Created by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 10:08, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 7[]

George Pechell Mends

Created by Broichmore (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Broichmore, Yeah that is exactly what a QPQ is. You get QPQ when you review a did you know nomination. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Can be approved after the comments above have been resolved. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Michela Gallagher

Created by Achaea (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in time. QPQ done. Article is not negative. Hooks are both concise and interesting. The main hook needs more wikilinks, at least to the two diseases.
  • However, I think the sourcing needs work throughout eg newsletters and ScienceDaily summaries are not considered sufficiently reliable to make claims, particularly relating to medical topics, which must be supported by WP:MEDRS-compliant sources. Given the sourcing quality, there is a problem with making claims and talking about what her company is doing without promotion. Gallagher's research seems highly cited and should be treated in depth in much more reliable sources.
  • The source for the main hook does not seem to meet MEDRS requirements, which would be necessary to talk about a drug for use in humans. Alt1 is supported by a newsletter from Johns Hopkins, which is not sufficiently independent to make a claim.
  • Earwig[20] found some minor overlap with [21] and other sources, which could do with rephrasing.
  • Another problem I see is that the article is rather stub-like, and not fully wikified. It's not always easy to find year of birth and country of birth (if American, why go to UCL?) for living scientists who shun the limelight, but without those key biographical elements it feels less a biography than a career summary and company profile. You should link her Johns Hopkins home page [22], CV [23] and Google Scholar profile [24]. I did find a few tidbits from a brief web browse:
  • She served as Editor-in-Chief of Behavioral Neuroscience 1995–2001 (CV & [25]) -- the latter article has more on her research c. 2001
  • Per her CV, she's also an elected fellow of several societies, which should be included, especially if an independent source can be located.
  • She originally studied fine arts[26]
  • She was one of the first two women to graduate from Colgate University and was the first woman to get a PhD there.[27] (and above)
  • Past Chair of Johns Hopkins Department of Psychological and Brain Science & Vice Provost of Academic Affairs and Faculty for 4 yrs (as above)
Espresso Addict (talk) 10:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Thanks for the review, I'll try to address your points asap. I'm don't think WP:MEDRS is really applicable here, because it is about what science she does, rather than saying that the claims are true. I can add her own articles on the studies, but these would not count as secondary sources for the scientist, only for the topic (e.g. can use them in the mild cognitive impairment article). I'm happy to just go with the second ALT though, if you're worried about the first one. Also, all the overlap on Earwig are names of her position or of the prizes she's won, I really cannot rephrase those things, as they are just simply names.
I will have a look of adding in that information, obvious you are also welcome to. However, the article is long enough and a start article, so following the rules of DYK, that shouldn't be a reason to stop the DYK, right? Thanks! Achaea (talk) 11:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Have added in the information that I could find sources for and a few more medical sources. Achaea (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Some very nice suggestions. While they are not necessary for DYK, I have added them because it makes for a very interesting article. Thanks to the original or for starting this :-) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Sikkim tea

Temi tea garden, Sikkim, India
Temi tea garden, Sikkim, India

Created by Dishita Bhowmik (talk). Self-nominated at 07:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 8[]

Thomas Stephens (historian)

  • Reviewed: 3rd DYK nomination, 1 article reviewed previously

5x expanded by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:45, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Afşin-Elbistan C power station

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 9[]

Barbara H. Bowman

Created/expanded by Citing (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Long enough, nominated in time, should perhaps be moved to 10th when created (but that might be a timezone issue). No QPQ noted but or appears not to have any DYK crs. No obvious neutrality problems in the article but unfortunately I think some work is still needed before this is ready for DYK.
  • The hook is concise & interesting to me, but might need a bit of unpacking for the general reader.
  • The source is not cited inline with the fact in the article.
  • Earwig seems completely down at the moment but a spot check found too much similarity to the wording in Ref 1.
  • Despite the length, I'd still characterise the article as a stub. For example, it is missing the timeline of her career -- it jumps from doctorate to death in Life section -- usually there's a position-by-position account with dates. The Life section needs breaking up, and the honours part moving to Legacy or under Awards and honors.
  • There are also major problems with the sourcing. Most of the Research career section is not sourced, or sourced only to primary sources. Most of the material in the infobox also needs a source.
  • Full details needed for refs 1 (not clear from pages that it is just the legend to the cover), 2, 3
Espresso Addict (talk) 05:04, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the review Espresso Addict (talk · contribs). Most of the material is based off of the citation from the AJHG cover story as it's the most thorough source on her life. The scientific references are to add context to the experiments that she carried out (the timeline of her research is based off of the AJHG citation) rather than as primary sources for the biography. I don't know how much more I could add to this article however as she died before the internet really took off and I don't have access to local newspapers and archives which would probably have more about her. If that's not sufficient for a DYK entry then I understand.Citing (talk) 17:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 10[]

St. Kolumba, Cologne

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Cimicidae

A bed bug
A bed bug

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 06:26, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Dana Fischer

Dana Fischer at GP Los Angeles 2019
Dana Fischer at GP Los Angeles 2019

Moved to mainspace by GRuban (talk). Self-nominated at 16:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Elisabeth Lindermeier

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nelson House & Rotherhithe Street

Moved to mainspace by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 11[]

Beyond the Stellar Empire (play-by-mail game)

  • Reviewed: This is my second DYK nomination so I believe I have a grace period of a few nominations before required reviews.

Created by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Corporate debt bubble

Created by Featous (talk). Self-nominated at 00:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Open Secrets: India's Intelligence Unveiled

Source: "A good many exposes of the CIA, the FBI and the MI5 and MI6 have been published. None of them, however, was written in the manner Dhar writes. None of the intelligence operators was as vainglorious as he is." (Noorani, A. G. “Intelligence and the Political System.” Economic and Political Weekly, vol. 40, no. 13, 2005, pp. 1330–1333. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/4416397. Accessed 11 Mar. 2020.Copy)

Moved to mainspace by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Oxford Vulgate

Title page of the first volume of the Oxford Vulgate
Title page of the first volume of the Oxford Vulgate

Created by Veverve (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Veverve, DYK is for material new to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, this nomination is mostly of pre-existing material split off from the Vulgate article: according to the WMFLabs Duplication detector, 3230 prose characters (of a total of 3654) were copied, and none of it was new material created within the past seven days. According to DYK rules, material copied from another article must be expanded to five times its original size, which in this case would require an article containing a minimum of 16,150 prose characters. (The same was true of your other split-off article, Benedictine Vulgate, and why it, too, has been marked as ineligible—the expansion required is prohibitive.) I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings; best of luck with future DYK submissions, where original articles that don't include material from other articles need only a minimum of 1500 prose characters. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Tamara Levitt

Created by Jauerback (talk). Self-nominated at 21:37, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 12[]

Peter Minich

  • Reviewed: to come

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Charles01 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ is needed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:36, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, - I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Ant Clemons. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Darmstädter Ferienkurse

1957 course with Karlheinz Stockhausen
1957 course with Karlheinz Stockhausen
  • Reviewed: Igor Matovič
  • Comment: Too long, and we could say much more about these legendary courses, Stockhausen, award, impact ...

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Jerome Kohl (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 13[]

Selin Şahin

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 09:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

It's a Crime (play-by-mail game)

  • Comment: Nomination in an under-represented play-by-mail topic — shows the diversity of Wikipedia articles
  • Reviewed: This is my third DYK nomination; I believe I have a grace period of a few nominations before required reviews.

Created by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Charles Wilkins (writer)

  • Reviewed: 4th DYK nomination, 1 reviewed

Improved to Good Article status by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 14[]

Augustus Pierce

QPQ: Siena Piano, in progress done

Created by John M Wolfson (talk). Self-nominated at 00:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Donal Reid

  • Comment: First sentence of very last paragraph. For April Fools' Day.

5x expanded by Litelad (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK crs. Regarding the hook, this doesn't really fit the description of an April Fools hook, which is that the hook could be read as a double entendre. The language you're using is also inaccurate: she didn't catch fire, her coat did. I suggest writing the hook this way:
  • ALT1: ... that retired Gaelic footballer Donal Reid put out the flames when an elderly woman's coat caught fire in his local church? Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Sato Project

Grisly, a 'sato' dog, rescued by Joel Brown in Old San Juan resembles a puppy Labrador
Grisly, a 'sato' dog, rescued by Joel Brown in Old San Juan resembles a puppy Labrador

Created by The Eloquent Peasant (talk). Self-nominated at 19:18, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Giovanni Antonio Grassi

Giovanni Antonio Grassi
Giovanni Antonio Grassi

5x expanded by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

American logistics in the Normandy Campaign

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:32, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 15[]

Renée Gilly

  • Reviewed: Laverne Antrobus
  • Comment: The source has the cute fact that she sang Santuzza in the 1000th performance at the house, but it's not really encyclopedic, so not in the article. Sorry, I discovered this article only today, which makes the nom one day late.

Created by Kosboot (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Calendrical Calculations

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 22:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Max C. Starkloff

Max C. Starkloff, M.D
Max C. Starkloff, M.D
  • Comment: Timely given the prevalence of social distancing for COVID-19. If you can suggest a more succinct hook, you are welcome.

Created by Peaceray (talk). Self-nominated at 06:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Peaceray, sounds like an interesting guy. I've struck all the hooks that exceed the maximum 200 prose character count (which includes spaces), which leaves ALT2 and ALT3. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Sylvia Rose Ashby

Created by Chris.sherlock (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 16[]

Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera)

Charles Wuorinen in the 1980s
Charles Wuorinen in the 1980s
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: Sorry, a day late. - We could mention the Fatwa condition of the writer, but I guess the name says enough?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:34, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

The McLain Family Band

The McLain Family Band at the Carter Family Fold on January 7, 2017
The McLain Family Band at the Carter Family Fold on January 7, 2017

5x expanded by Fourthords (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Hale Nauā Society

https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/509/JL33209.pdf "Those present at the initial organizing meeting of the Hale Naua on September 20, 1886, were King Kalakaua and Queen Kapi'olani, John T. Baker, Mrs. Ululani Baker, Mrs. Annie Maikai, Mrs. Hannah Kinimaka, Mrs. Hannah Lilikalani and Mrs. Grace Kaahalewai, Mrs. K. Makua, Mrs. M. Kaahu, Mrs. M. Kawelo, and Mrs. K. Keaweluaole."

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 17[]

KJSK

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Svedectvo

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 18[]

Hyborian War

Improved to Good Article status by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:50, 20 March 2020 (UTC).

Mercedes-Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo

Created/expanded by Fixer88 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough. New enough. Well written; neutral. Inline citations throughout the article but missing in three areas. I've marked where they are needed. No copyright violations. The hook is ok; the fact that it's the first Vision Gran Turismo is sourced although I needed to re-read the sentence a few times. No QPQ. So, fix the CNs, (and add a QPQ if necessary.) 22:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Kirk Deighton SSSI

Great crested newt
Great crested newt

Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Shiny Suit Theory

Jay Electronica
Jay Electronica

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Lil Uzi Vert vs. the World 2

Lil Uzi Vert
Lil Uzi Vert

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

  • @Kingsif: I think that this is actually a great connection! I'll try to cite the Scott Pilgrim influence into the article. I'd like to see both DYKs being run on the same day. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 16:03, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Valery Varfolomeyev

Valery Varfolomeyev and Vladimir Putin
Valery Varfolomeyev and Vladimir Putin

Created by Spokoyni (talk). Self-nominated at 12:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 19[]

Bishops Pond

  • Reviewed: Cape God
  • Comment: I should have nominated this yesterday.

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC).

Silke Bühler-Paschen

Created by AthalGolwen (talk). Nominated by S0793217 (talk) at 21:14, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Chuck Wilson (USAF U-2 pilot)

Created by Skeet Shooter (talk). Self-nominated at 02:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Berge equilibrium

  • Reviewed: Exempt from QPQ, but nevertheless I reviewed Disease X

Created by Astrophobe (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Khotin Uprising

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 08:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Democracy Manifest video

Created by 7&6=thirteen (talk), GreenC (talk), Dream Focus (talk), Lightburst (talk), Talsta (talk), and SpicyMilkBoy (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 14:07, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

500 Queer Scientists

Moved to mainspace by YorkshireLad (talk). Self-nominated at 00:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Archie, Marry Me

Created by Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk). Nominated by JeBonSer (talk) at 22:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This is a comment rather than a review (I may review this if I have time, but for now I'm not sure if I can do it). I think a different hook has to be proposed here. The hook as written isn't really a hook, it's a statement of a fact, and it's something that's not going to catch attention among general readers. Having taken a quick look at the lede, I would suggest taking inspiration from the article sections on its production and critical reception; perhaps the fact that the song is inspired by the romance of the artist might work? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • How about this hook?:
  • ALT1:... that the name "Archie" from the song title "Archie, Marry Me" is a fictitious character? Source: "It is a fictitious character, but the situation was a bit of an autobiographical one," said singer Molly Rankin of Toronto’s Alvvays. Rolling Stone. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 06:15, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think that would work either, song being based on fictional characters is very common. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:00, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
That's a bit vague. Maybe there could be some focus on how the song was produced and written? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2 (reworded):... that the song "Archie, Marry Me" was rated as one of the best tracks on several lists of best songs in 2014? JeBonSer (talk | sign) 10:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I think I was thinking more about how the song was influenced by how the song's performers saw that their friends were getting married. The part in the lede that goes Rankin and O'Hanley were romantically linked, and had been collaborating for some time creatively. Then in their mid-twenties, they observed friends quickly being wed with derision. An or I asked on Discord also suggested that perhaps a hook on how the song begins with bird chirps might also work. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:08, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I think it's more interesting if we stick to ALT2. What do you think? JeBonSer (talk | sign) 02:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
It really doesn't say much about the song itself, and a similar-enough hook could be made for any other popular song for 2014. I just don't think that direction is going to work out. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT3...that Archie, Marry Me begins with birds chirping? Source:The song begins with the faint noise of birds chirping,[40]©Geni (talk) 09:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Mir Jumla III

  • Reviewed: Shortly

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 04:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Royroydeb This nomination needs a source. There also isn't an inline source directly after this claim in the article. Samsmachado (talk) 01:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment 16/19 of the refs are to William Irvine (historian), born 1840. And please correct the link to the other, Chandra. Johnbod (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

60 Hudson Street, 32 Avenue of the Americas

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 23:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 20[]

George Dudley

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Nominated by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) at 18:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

KTLV

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 21[]

Electricar DV4

Created by Geni (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg first time reviewer here - so other opinions welcome - i would go for ALT1 with the tweak to add WWII, whilst also noting that the article is only based on two sources Mujinga (talk) 12:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Duncraig Castle

Duncraig Castle
Duncraig Castle
  • Note: As of 20 March 2020 this article had a prose size of 1183 bytes, and it now stands at 7232 bytes so I think my expansion beginning at 15:50, 21 March 2020‎ constitutes a 5x expansion within the past seven days, even though I had actually begun working on the article two days prior to that.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • QPQ: Not done yet.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

5x expanded by Amakuru (talk). Self-nominated at 12:38, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

GirlsDoPorn

  • Reviewed: Burkina Faso at the 2012 Summer Paralympics
  • Comment: A very disturbing topic so please comment sensitively. Looking for an experienced reviewer to check the article is fully WP:BLP-compliant before this goes to the main page. There is precedent that the main page is uncensored and unfiltered.

Created by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 11:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

V.M.M. Nair

Created by Aumnamahashiva (talk). Self-nominated at 13:52, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I think if ALT1 is to be used, it will need to be revised as the abbreviations seem to be obscure outside of India. A suggestion I could give could be to mention their names in full instead of just the abbreviations. ALT0 could work on its own, but additional context may need to be provided to let international readers know the importance of the Indian Civil Service. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Ecem Güzel

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Tariq bin Taimur

Sources:

Created by Jibco (talk) and Векочел (talk). Nominated by Векочел (talk) at 06:27, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg First let me say that this is a fantastic fact and I think the problem that I am noting has a not-too-difficult fix. Article is new enough and just barely long enough, at 1523 characters. The hook is under 200 characters, is neutral, and is certainly interesting. The references here show that the subject's son was a sultan, but I don't see all the facts substantiated in them; however, references in the page do show this hook to be true. QPQ was done. What stops me from approving the DYK now is that I have concerns about the articles' compliance with WP:V. Specifically, the second paragraph of the article has a number of specific claims which are not cited anywhere in the article. The third paragraph does too. Those claims should all have in-line citations to comply with WP:V. This is my second DYK review, so per the intro of the reviewing guide, I invite a second opinion for my review. - Astrophobe (talk) 04:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Astrophobe, I am not feeling particularly well at the moment so I would like to withdraw the nomination Векочел (talk) 02:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Willigis Jäger

Willigis Jäger in 2010
Willigis Jäger in 2010
  • Reviewed: to come

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:29, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 22[]

Violin Sonata No. 1 (Stanford)

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Graham1973 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Hellmut Stern

Hellmut Stern in 2011
Hellmut Stern in 2011
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: ... which meant he really wanted to return to Berlin, and worked from 1967 to 1990 on the dream of the tour ...

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:26, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Pasquinade

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 03:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment half de-merger from Pasquino, & not very well done. The hatnote there still begins "This article is about a genre of anonymous lampooning...." and much of it still is. Johnbod (talk) 18:27, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The new article could be accused of being a WP:POVFORK, because though you claim to have split the literary form to here, leaving the statue there, you left in the other article much stuff that is about the literary form, not the statue, and an assertion that the subject of the article is the literary form. So now we apparently have two articles on the same subject. You began your article as a "split", & have a responsibility to clear up the relevant points at the base article, such as the hatnote, now clearly wrong in at least two respects. You changed redirects, but not debolded them at the original destination. It's very sloppy work, and your responsibility. Odd English (wrong tense etc) in both hooks, btw. Johnbod (talk) 14:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • IF you think the new article is a POVFORK, you can nominate it for AfD. There was no 'de-merger', because there was no merger in the first place. The 'split' amounted to two sentences or so ([46]); effectively a single ref rescued from the old article. I do not have any responsibility to clean up the mess that is the old article (but in fact I did some c/e to it), and its state has no relevance to the article nominated here. Ping User:BlueMoonset for a DYK-supervisor ruling on this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm no expert on this (and have no supervisory powers), but I see two potential issues here (though there may be others I'm missing). One is that any material copied from the originating article must be expanded fivefold. That doesn't seem to apply in this case. Another is a bit broader than that but it sounds like it may be an issue here, per WP:DYKSG#D10: If your article contradicts an existing article, the contradiction should be resolved one way or the other before your article is approved. So if Pasquinade contradicts Pasquino, the two must be reconciled. (I took a look at the two hooks, and they do have tense problems.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • He bought over a little, & has undoubtedly expanded that x 5. But, apart from leaving a "fork" situation as described above, he failed to bring over stuff , including all or most of the "Cultural legacy" section at Pasquino, which relates to the literary form rather than the statue, or to both. If he'd brought that over, I don't think a x5 expansion could be claimed. Johnbod (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I fixed the tense issue (I hope, ping User:Nihil novi for a grammar review, TIA). A lot found at the Paquine article is problematic, there are errors and such. I did not bring it over as I consider most of what's there irrelevant or erroneous. This article about a different topic was written from scratch. There are no contradictions as far as I can tell, the other article just contains useless trivia. Again, fixing that other article is not relevant to what is discussed here. In all my years at DYK I've never seen a criticism 'this article cannot be DYKed because some other article has a problem. This is a DYK for pasquinade, not pasquino --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • This is nonsense, I'm afraid. The topic of "pasquinade" was very clearly part of Pasquino, indeed the hatnote wrongly claimed that was the only subject. And you did not exactly write it from scratch, you brought over a bit, calling it a split, but leaving a lot of other stuff, changing two redirects from there to the new article. So your subject is now split over two articles. Johnbod (talk) 17:51, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • The trouble with the literary stuff you left at the statue is not that it is a "mess", "problematic", "irrelevant or erroneous", but that it has no references, and if you had brought it over, it would have messed up your x5 count, and needed some referencing. Johnbod (talk) 22:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Well, I have done as you suggest. Johnbod (talk) 14:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Up from the Ashes (song)

Aberdeen Bestiary phoenix painting
Aberdeen Bestiary phoenix painting

Converted from a redirect by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment What on earth makes you think that is a mosaic??? It's a painted miniature from a manuscript, as linked. Johnbod (talk) 13:56, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I must've misread somewhere that it was a mosaic. Made a minor tweak. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Australian Journal of Herpetology

  • Reviewed: KUOP
  • Comment: I like to think this article is pretty juicy so there are probably lots of other decent hooks if anyone has a better one.

Moved to mainspace by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC).

List of Ayushmann Khurrana performances

5x expanded by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 22 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 23[]

Srećko Albini

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Vocenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

150 Nassau Street

150 Nassau Street
150 Nassau Street

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 23:04, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Hans Lauda

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:29, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

LA Monster

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 14:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

0x88

Created by DannyS712 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

  • @DannyS712: Just a comment. Hooks need to have the article linked in them, please could you rephrase the hook to include the article's name? Cowlibob (talk) 12:21, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Forgot that bit, fixed --DannyS712 (talk) 14:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Htupayon Pagoda

5x expanded by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 04:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 24[]

Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me

  • Reviewed: TBD
  • Comment: ALT1's probably not allowed since we try not to do stuff about active political campaigns but just in case. Also pictures are available of both Tamaki and Valero-O'Connell for either hook, respectively.

Created by Soulbust (talk). Nominated by Bobamnertiopsis (talk) at 20:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Tanitoluwa Adewumi

  • Comment: This is the 4th of my 5 "free" nominations

Created by Narky Blert (talk). Self-nominated at 16:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Suggest rearranging the hook as "...Eight-year-old Nigerian refugee Tanitoluwa Adewumi won a New York State Chess Championship while he and his family were living in a homeless shelter in Manhattan?" because "his Nigerian refugee family" reads awkwardly. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

The Troop (book)

Created by ReaderofthePack (talk). Self-nominated at 14:52, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

J. Johnston Pettigrew

J. Johnston Pettigrew in Confederate uniform
J. Johnston Pettigrew in Confederate uniform
  • Reviewed: Not required

Improved to Good Article status by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 02:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I was wondering if something else could be mentioned about the subject, as I'm not sure either hook appeals to a broad audience. ALT0 could also be revised a bit to give more context as to what Pickett's Charge is, for the benefit of our non-American readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5 - Frankly, there's not a whole lot else about to talk about this figure. He was in the lower house of a state-level legislature, wrote an obscure book about Spain, and fought at Gettysburg. I can rewrite ALT0 to give more context about Pickett's Charge, but Gettysburg is the only really important/interesting thing in Pettigrew's life. Hog Farm (talk) 21:09, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I've written ALT2, which is essentially ALT0 but giving context as to what Pickett's Charge is. Hog Farm (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I think it's better, but it might be a good idea to ask a second opinion on if ALT2 would work to non-American readers. As someone who does know Gettysburg, it does sound interesting and may help the hook appeal to American audiences, just not so sure about with others with the current wording. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Ben Sherwood (Holby City)

  • Reviewed: Sony Xperia 1 II
  • Comment: Feel free to alter the hooks or suggest a brand new one!

Created by Soaper1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Mount Brandon

Mount Brandon photographed from Brandon Peak
Mount Brandon photographed from Brandon Peak
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cale Morris
  • Comment: Source quoted is Paul Tempan, an Irish academic who wrote the Database of Irish Mountain Names. However, the "Naming" section of this article has further book references on this fact (these books are searchable online), as the story of Brendan goes beyond mountain names.

Improved to Good Article status by Britishfinance (talk). Self-nominated at 15:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Coronavirus recession

Created by Sa.vakilian (talk). Self-nominated at 11:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and length fine. However there are several problems with the article. It has several citation needed tags and tags on the header. There is also the big problem of the merger proposal which means @Sa.vakilian: it cannot proceed until all tags have been removed. Once the merge debate is ended and the citing is fixed (the citations are a bit messy too I'll add), then ping me and I'll have another look. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The article's title has not been established by reliable sources. As of now, I could not see this article passing. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 23:40, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 25[]

Coughs and sneezes spread diseases

Coughs and Sneezes Spread Diseases poster by H. M. Bateman
Coughs and Sneezes Spread Diseases poster by H. M. Bateman
  • Reviewed: To be done

Created by Bangalamania (talk), Whispyhistory (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 08:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Cool topic! New and (barely) long enough, within policy, Earwig finds no copyvios, images all have copyright expired, hook checks out. QPQ review just needs to be done, then this is ready to go. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 01:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Anatoliy Mokrenko

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC).

Lou Vairo

based his coaching style on a blend of Soviet and Canadian coaching methods?

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 23:27, 25 March 2020 (UTC).


1876 Prohibition National Convention

Created by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

References

Ude Dil Befikre

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

CasualtyXHolby

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 26[]

Cheng Lai-king

5x expanded by CRau080 (talk), Universehk (talk), and Feminist (talk). Nominated by Feminist (talk) at 02:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC).

Kobe Route

A collapsed section of the Kobe Route.
A collapsed section of the Kobe Route.

Created by Mccunicano (talk). Self-nominated at 03:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Col de la Loze, 2019 Tour de l'Avenir

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC).

Port Charlotte Town Center

5x expanded by Pokemonprime (talk). Self-nominated at 22:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Lucien Sève

Created by Joseph2302 (talk) and 唐吉訶德的侍從 (talk). Nominated by Joseph2302 (talk) at 19:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Crip Camp

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Current nominations[]

Articles created/expanded on March 27[]

John W. Walsh

John W. Walsh in 2012
John W. Walsh in 2012
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Essex Market
  • Comment: Note on timing: The article was taken live (moved from sandbox) on 27 March 2020, so this nomination is within the 7-day window. I delayed nominating this while I searched NIH websites for a larger image, but ran out of time before I found one.

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 07:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Whitecliff Bay and Bembridge Ledges SSSI

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

N95 mask

  • Reviewed: Leah Lowenstein
  • Comment: Much of the text is closely paraphrased from public domain U.S. government sources, which is within policy, but this text doesn't count towards the 1,500 character limit. However, there is more than 1,500 characters of original text, mainly in the lead and the history section. See DYK rule 2b.

Created by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk), Victorgrigas (talk), and Fuzheado (talk). Nominated by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) at 01:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Naomi Munakata

  • Reviewed: John Early (educator)
  • Comment: COVID-19 victim, but I guess that's not what the hook should say

Created by Fixer88 (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Kissa Tanto

Created by Premated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Maria Kahea Beckley

Maria Beckley Kahea
Maria Beckley Kahea

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Pūloʻuloʻu

Created/expanded by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 05:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 28[]

Suzette Davenport

5x expanded by YorkshireLad (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

  • The hooks are not ideal. No woman could have led the force for most of those 174 years as there were no women police officers for most of that time. The second might expose her to ridicule and isn't suitable for a living person (or am I wrong?). How about that "senior policewoman Suzette Davenport was responsible for crime and diversity in Staffordshire?" Philafrenzy (talk) 10:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Philafrenzy, I don't really like ALT1 either for that exact reason, I just wanted to suggest options. I think the original is fine: it's in the source, and it's a common thing to report when a woman takes a male-dominated role for the first time:
  • "Oxford university has nominated Professor Louise Richardson, a political scientist, as its first ever female vice-chancellor, bringing to an end 785 years of male academic leadership." [71]
  • "Cressida Dick is the new Metropolitan Police commissioner, becoming the first woman to take charge of London's police force in its 188-year history." [72]
and so on. It's also not true that there were no women police officers for most of that time: the first woman to serve with Gloucestershire Constabulary was in 1918. [73] [Note for reviewer: the 174-year fact is no longer in the article, and would have to be restored before that hook could be used. The citation given here for it remains in place.]
I'm not sure I like your proposed hook, sorry: it's undoubtedly a fact from the article, but I'm not sure it's enough of a draw to make you want to read it. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 11:18, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Suggestion: we could have
ALT2: ... that Suzette Davenport was the first woman to lead Gloucestershire Constabulary?
with the same source as for the original hook. I prefer the number of years to be included, but I think the fact that she was the first woman is a more interesting fact that a particular portfolio she held. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 11:25, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
The media may use that formulation but that doesn't stop it being a bit silly. There might have been policewomen but there was no chance of a female chief constable was there? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, true, but this feels very subjective. At what point was there a chance? There has to be some way of reporting how long it's taken an organisation to have a woman leading it. (I suspect we're not going to agree on this, and may need to wait for the third opinion of whoever reviews the nomination...) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 11:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
The first point at which there was a chance was probably in the later twentieth century, in other words not very long before it actually happened, thus proving that the cr she deserves is for her appointment to the post not for being a woman doing what no woman could have done much before her anyway. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, Can you provide evidence for The first point at which there was a chance was probably in the later twentieth century? Like I said, it feels very subjective.
Incidentally (and just to clarify), do you object to ALT2? YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Obviously I don't have evidence as I assume women were not blocked by law from rising to that rank. It's more a matter of social conditions. I have just looked it up and I see it was Pauline Clare in Lancashire in 1995 which I didn't know when I commented earlier and proves my point I think. No I don't object to Alt 2 but it is the reviewer whose opinion you need. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it has to be a reviewer (I've done this before!). But since you objected to the original and ALT1, and that might be taken into account by a reviewer, I thought it was worth getting your opinion. I do see where you're coming from, but I remain unconvinced that it's sufficiently "silly" that it can't be included in the article; on the other hand, as I said before, whether or not it was included in the article is not a point I would have particularly cared about had my preferred choice of hook for DYK not depended on it, or had I been able to think of a better one! Perhaps best just to wait and see what the third opinion of the reviewer is. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 18:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Pierre-Adrien Dalpayrat

Dalpayrat bowl with panthers
Dalpayrat bowl with panthers

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

KKXL (AM)

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Tubby Schmalz

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Notarial Archives (Malta)

Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC).


  • I have been through the article in some detail comparing the text to the sources. I have found only one sentence which could be considered too close to the source material: Today, the archives fall under the responsibility of the Chief Notary to Government (article) vs. Today, the Notarial Archives are governed by a separate legislation and fall under the responsibility of the Chief Notary to Government (source). Rewording to make the Chief Notary to Government the subject of the sentence would overcome this.
  • Web Archive link for refs [5] and [15] (both from Malta Today) are not working. (I have been able to access the website directly, though, to verify them.)

Symbol question.svg As a regular user of regional and national archives in my own country, it is pleasing to find such a detailed article on Malta's. Just a couple of issues to resolve. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Hassocks5489: Thanks for the review! I changed the sentence with close paraphrasing and I added more detail to explain the situation better (I also mentioned the Office of the Notary to Government and Notarial Archives, which had not been mentioned earlier). I added a new source for this (now it's ref 5). I rechecked the archived links of the Malta Today sources (currently ref 6 and ref 16) and both of them seem to work OK for me. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 22:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

169th Street station (IND Queens Boulevard Line)

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Carol Shanahan

Created by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 17:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 29[]

Palazzolo (Rome)

The hill (to the left in the background crowned by umbrella pines) seen from St. Peter's Dome
The hill (to the left in the background crowned by umbrella pines) seen from St. Peter's Dome
  • Reviewed: I will do it asap

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

1982 Women's Cricket World Cup Final

Created by Harrias (talk). Self-nominated at 06:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

Aquarium station (MBTA)

Improved to Good Article status by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:04, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

Angel Voices, Ever Singing

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Fangyi (vessel)

Fangyi dated to the 12th century BCE (Shang dynasty)
Fangyi dated to the 12th century BCE (Shang dynasty)

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 15:21, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Prioryman: Interesting subject matter. Article is new enough, long enough, mostly referenced to RS and hook is cited. QPQ has been satisfied. The first paragraph, which in this case is not solely a summary of the article, lacks a citation though. Once this is fixed, nomination is good to go. Al Ameer (talk) 03:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Arena, Vienna

  • Comment: First time nomination

Created by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 10:54, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Honolulu Volcanics

Diamond Head in Honolulu, one of the members of the Honolulu Volcanics
Diamond Head in Honolulu, one of the members of the Honolulu Volcanics

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 10:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • comment - i think there are photos which look better at 100x100 in the article, perhaps this one — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mujinga (talkcontribs)
    Aye, that one looks prettier but it's not as indicative - the importance of this volcanic field stems mainly from the fact that it is situated in the middle of Honolulu. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Frank Stagg (Irish republican)

Created/expanded by CeltBrowne (talk). Self-nominated at 20:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol delete vote.svg No QPQ necessary as nominator has 0 DYK crs per QPQ check. Hook is great and very interesting, but the article lacks the necessary recent expansion to qualify for DYK. Sourcing is also a bit dodgy, it'd probably be good to avoid having so many "citation needed" tags in an article featured on the main page. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 30[]

Zygaena loti

Photograph of a Slender Scotch Burnet moth on a flower
Photograph of a Slender Scotch Burnet moth on a flower
  • Comment: Article greatly expanded as part of a WikiEdu class project

5x expanded by NicoleFipps (talk). Nominated by Joshua Stone (talk) at 23:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Umm al-Amad, Lebanon

The ruins in the 1840s, published in The Holy Land, Syria, Idumea, Arabia, Egypt, and Nubia
The ruins in the 1840s, published in The Holy Land, Syria, Idumea, Arabia, Egypt, and Nubia
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 21:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Blossom Expion

  • Reviewed: Exempt (5th nomination)

Created by Aranya (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Ad Fontes Media

  • Comment: I (Nablais) created the article and Newslinger helped expand it. This is my first submission to DYK.

Created by Nablais (talk) and Newslinger (talk). Nominated by Nablais (talk) at 01:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Thanks for submitting this, Nablais. I'm not sure about the main hook, since it appears to be based on an original reading of the chart itself. Ideally, hooks should be based on content in the article that is supported by a reliable secondary source. ALT1 is fine on reliability grounds, but I wonder if there is a way to paraphrase Otero's words. — Newslinger talk 08:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
    Source for ALT1: One of Otero's reasons for creating the organization was that "many sources people consider to be ‘news sources’ are actually dominated by analysis and opinion pieces," and that these "extreme sources play on people’s worst instincts, like fear and tribalism, and take advantage of people’s confirmation biases."[1]

References

  1. ^ Langlois, Shawn (April 21, 2018). "How biased is your news source? You probably won't agree with this chart". MarketWatch. Retrieved March 30, 2020.

William Ault

  • Reviewed: coming

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 17:43, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

Credo (Penderecki)

Krzysztof Penderecki in 2008
Krzysztof Penderecki in 2008
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: my little contrib in memory - if wanted this could be made a Passion and/or Easter hook, because he included such hymns into the text, but perhaps run with one of the hooks one of those days, - and readers can find out.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC).

Mercenary War

Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 15:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 31[]

Addled Parliament

5x expanded by Tenpop421 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:35, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Respiratory droplet

5x expanded by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 1[]

Dorothy Horrell

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 23:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Is there anything else that can be said about Horrell's life and career? To be honest, I don't really find the hook as written to be very interesting, as people growing up on farms is very commonplace in most parts of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if Horrell is far from the only female chancellor to have grown up on a farm. I think the Colorado WHoF angle might be more promising if that could be elaborated on. (Disclosure: I was invited to this discussion off-Wiki by Epicgenius, although the thoughts given here are my own). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Bill Beagan

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 20:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

A Case of Spring Fever

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Dreeg

  • Reviewed: to follow shortly

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 2[]

Bantha

Improved to Good Article status by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

List of Broadway Theaters

  • Comment: there are plenty of images of Broadway theaters that could be used if necessary. Looking for another DYK to review now.

Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self-nominated at 21:35, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Reviewed 432 Park Avenue. Found5dollar (talk) 21:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Prairie Grove

  • Comment: Can try to come up with additional hooks, but this is one of the more particularly interesting things about this battle.

Improved to Good Article status by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 17:18, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Andagua volcanic field

A lava flow, with cones in the background
A lava flow, with cones in the background

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

432 Park Avenue

432 Park Avenue
432 Park Avenue

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk) and Wontonalertbulb (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 16:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

  • While i thought it was a joke, that original hook seems completely true, even with quotes from the architect. This review is for that first hook.

QPQ: Red XN - qpq still needed
Overall: Symbol question.svg just needs a qpq Found5dollar (talk) 21:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Found5dollar: Thanks for the review. I have done a QPQ. Yes, the hook is real, but if only I'd gotten this passed as a GA a week earlier... epicgenius (talk) 02:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Typhoon Emma (1959)

Created by Nova Crystallis (talk). Self-nominated at 03:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 3[]

12.38

Converted from a redirect by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 04:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

Special occasion holding area[]

The holding area has moved to its new location at the bottom of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [81]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [82].
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